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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:14 am
My friend was born in China, obviously a Communist country. She's lived in Canada since she was a little girl however, and was severely anti-Communism, especially after finding out that until the Communists took over, her family would have been very wealthy.
She went to visit her relatives this past summer and came back all "Hail Communism."
Now, I was very happy to hear that someone shared my views in my group of friends, but it makes me wonder what exactly the country 'did' so to speak to make her do a 180.
Does anyone have any insights for me?
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 2:33 pm
Sounds to me like it might just be a nationality thing. but who knows, not enough details to really say.
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 4:36 pm
Comrade Robson Sounds to me like it might just be a nationality thing. but who knows, not enough details to really say. Makes sense. I think.
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:39 pm
1. No such thing as a "Communist country". 2. As Comrade Robson said, it's hard to say just from what you've told us.
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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:14 am
Well... I don't know if this has anything to do with it, or not, but here goes. I just spent four months in Russia, and even now, after the fall of the Soviet Union, a lot of people are nostalgic for the way things were. Even now though, there are still a plethora of social programs in place that form a safety net for anyone who's going through a rough time, whereas the West, particularly the US, is very unforgiving in that regard. In America, either you make it or you're screwed, whereas in Russia, even if you're struggling, you still have basic healthcare and necessities, and there are programs to help with the expense of having children. I mean, Russia has it's problems, and lots of them... but at the same time, it's astounding how very little the US government does for it's own citizens...
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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:22 pm
Damn it's been ages. Anyway, here goes: It probably is just nationalism, as most young chinese (the current generation and their parents) see the CCP as the reason the country is stong and not ruled by western or Japanese imperialism. They do not understand the massive gains made through the revolution: collectivised property--since eroded, but there in the important places:state owned heavy industry and state controled finance, the since disbanded 'iron ricebowl,' decent education, housing for all, healthcare... All the stuff that comes standard in a workers state.
Most younger Chinese do not see that, they see their country as a strong country with an unbroken Chinese tradition going back millenia. This ignores the very real break with the past made in '49, with the CCP in control of the country and '53 with the expropriation of the landlords, the destruction of Chinese culture in the various campaigns against the 'Olds' and the 'Bads' and the Cultural Revolution, that disgusting intra-bureaucratic feud hailed by the maoist left...
Regardless of the initial reasons for her change of stance, the important thing for you is that you educate her on what communism /is/. Why not introduce her to this guild and see what happens?
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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 6:20 pm
uh it actually might depend on the fact that one of her relatives is associated with the government
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Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 3:54 am
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