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Zahth
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:08 pm


So I was watching TV and saw something rather hilarious.

A religious man shouting about how gay-people marrying is wrong and against the sanctity of marriage.

I'm just curious as to what everyone here thinks.

I'm on the side were both Heterosexual and Homosexual can marry.
To be honest if they like to use the Bible to sight that god hates gays it makes me laugh. Two chapters after this example; it says you should stone a disobedient child........

You want to preserve the sanctity of marriage don't let people get divorced; 60% of marriages end in divorce and I'm pretty sure Gods more pissed off about that if he's even pissed off about what a bunch of smart-monkeys are doing to their back-water planet blaugh
PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 11:08 pm



Confused...Are you just now wondering?
I thought it was alright for them to get married in most states.
So confused.?

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Zahth
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 1:01 am


emo panda Yuuki

Confused...Are you just now wondering?
I thought it was alright for them to get married in most states.
So confused.?


Actually the States are alittle confusing on this issue.

16 states have no same-sex union law.

20 have banned same-sex marriage.

4 states call it a Civil Union

3 call it a domestic Partnership
{3 and a half including Oregon, which also bans it in some counties}

Hawaii calls it "Reciprocal Benefits"

Massachusetts is the only state that performs it and offers a legal marriage license.

BEHOLD THE CONFUSION!!

======================================

On another note I'm actually Canadian and currently reside in the only province that does not legally allow same-sex marriage. Alberta.......the Canadian equivalent of Alabama, Texas, and Utah.

I'm in the only part of the country that loves guns to much, loves money over helping people, and hates "queers" more then recreational drugs.

Wheeeeeee stare

Really Really want to move to B.C. were the summers are cool and the winters are warm. Weather goes between 10C and 20C [50 F to 70 F] instead of -47 to +42 [-52 to 107]
PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:02 pm


I don't approve of Gay sex.

That's about it.

they wanna get married, there's not much i can do to stop them.

Let'em.

But America isn't full of understanding people.

We're full of spoiled brats who all want their way.

Thus the confusion erupts.

Recca~[BANKAI]
Crew


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 1:03 pm


Recca~[BANKAI]
I don't approve of Gay sex.

That's about it.

they wanna get married, there's not much i can do to stop them.

Let'em.

But America isn't full of understanding people.

We're full of spoiled brats who all want their way.

Thus the confusion erupts.

Erupts to the dispute of the other brats complaining to what they feel is "right".

Then you have people that are like me, who Is Gay, and still cares about what people say When THey state what They don't approve of, (in terms of THings like this)


So Confusing the world has to be for an Emo Panda.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 9:46 pm


Perosnally, I'm straight and think being a lesbian is odd (no offense, I just couldn't imagine myself with another girl at all!). that said, some people think differently then I, as a matter of fact, I'm the abstract mind to most... Orientation should be considered the way religion is. It's a matter of belief in what the person enjoys. There's no problem with that in my mind. It's different and not how I'd prefer to be but I'm not the only one with a opinion that matters... So, even though I don't think being gay is exactly appropriate, it'ssomeones free will and choice. A person has a right to religion and in my mind, sexual preference is a practice of belief in gender differences and personal opinion of a persons sexual attraction. So, even with my personal preferences, I still don't believe it to be right to say it's illegal to like someone your gender. Damn it, how many of us had our first kiss with our best friend?! nearly everyone I know who's had their first kiss kissed someone of the same gender, whether it was for love or not I wouldn't know...

But that's my opinion. You want to make the choice to have same gender love, it doesn't screw up my life any and shouldn't make a damn difference to those politicians just because their straight!! (and not all of them are...)

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 12:19 pm


emo panda Yuuki
Recca~[BANKAI]
I don't approve of Gay sex.

That's about it.

they wanna get married, there's not much i can do to stop them.

Let'em.

But America isn't full of understanding people.

We're full of spoiled brats who all want their way.

Thus the confusion erupts.

Erupts to the dispute of the other brats complaining to what they feel is "right".

Then you have people that are like me, who Is Gay, and still cares about what people say When THey state what They don't approve of, (in terms of THings like this)


So Confusing the world has to be for an Emo Panda.


Silly Emo Panda.

The world is teh wrongs. I can't even put up mine own opinion?

I think the freedom of religion is a good point, but let's not forget american rights are based on what religion? Christianity. And what about our laws. Made by who? Christians! Thus the reason why it is such a big deal.

Nuff Sed on my p.o.v.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 3:36 pm


Just to break into the defenses.......

The United states of america is created under the idea of Freedom not cristianity..........BY A BUNCH OF SLAVE OWNERS

The idea that everyone should have a freedom of speech and the ability to vote........AS LONG AS THEY OWN LAND/LIVESTOCK

Those were serious messed up principles to start a nation

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HOWEVER

I feel the need to put the united states into a simple example in order to explain my standings better:

Say the United States is a club as members you pay-dues, ie. taxes, to support public and political government run facilities and programs. The political and public astablishments are run by the club hand book; the constitution of the United States.

Now; the constitution says your club steers clear of religion. That's the deal you made; if you pay for it with taxes it can't have religion in it. That's in the pesky bylaws or subheaders of the handbook.

So as long as everyone is paying no religion in these facilities or programs, ie. the house of congress can not pass a bill banning something because it is deemed a sin within a holy text of a singular religion.

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AS WELL

There has been genetic proof the sexaul orientation is not a choice but a genetic pre-disposition. It's just the genetic information that determines what sex you are attacted to: Heterosexauls didn't choose to be attached to the opposite sex it just happened.

Think about it, when you were thirteen years old did you wake up and say "righ time to choose my sexaul orientation for the rest of my life."

OR

When you hit thirteen did you brain just make you think "wow that persons hot." Regardless of sex.

Zahth
Vice Captain


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 8:34 pm


IGmangachick
So, even though I don't think being gay is exactly appropriate, it'ssomeones free will and choice. A person has a right to religion and in my mind, sexual preference is a practice of belief in gender differences and personal opinion of a persons sexual attraction

OK I bolded every wrong with what you said.
I am Gay, And I dont think I would of choosen A Free, obusive life of a Gay teen.
What you are saying is Stating, I must of had sex before, Because like entering a religion, You must of had some exposure to that religion, AM I RIGHT?(No one but me in my family is Gay)
And I can tell you this. I did notWake up one morning, Had sex with a gay man.(tasted being Gay) and Said to myself, "OK lets go out there Today and get critisized amd bashed, and Emotionally drained!"
You really beleive I would have choose A life style of Pain then one Of ease?
Yeah I'm like every human being and Like to HArmed evryday.

I'm sorry, but I feel You have yet to know or feel the emotion's I have felt in my entire Life.

But I can tell you this, I've known I was since I can rememeber, I also Can tell you, and have no problem telling, I act girly, Alot.
BAd steriotype, HEll YES! But do I make me choose to act like that?
No, Ask my Older Twin brother. He knows I've always acted girly.

So what are you exactly trying to Say?
I Mean I've heard about everything Since I came out, To friends saying they hate me, To Hiding for homo-phobic parents. What ever you seem to not be saying wont hurt.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 8:35 pm


I'm sorry... I'm just very upset.
I'll stop it..Sorry IG, over reacted..

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 8:37 pm


Zahth
AS WELL

There has been genetic proof the sexaul orientation is not a choice but a genetic pre-disposition. It's just the genetic information that determines what sex you are attacted to: Heterosexauls didn't choose to be attached to the opposite sex it just happened.

Think about it, when you were thirteen years old did you wake up and say "righ time to choose my sexaul orientation for the rest of my life."

OR

When you hit thirteen did you brain just make you think "wow that persons hot." Regardless of sex.


Should of finished Reading your before, Ranting.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 8:38 pm


Recca~[BANKAI]
emo panda Yuuki
Recca~[BANKAI]
I don't approve of Gay sex.

That's about it.

they wanna get married, there's not much i can do to stop them.

Let'em.

But America isn't full of understanding people.

We're full of spoiled brats who all want their way.

Thus the confusion erupts.

Erupts to the dispute of the other brats complaining to what they feel is "right".

Then you have people that are like me, who Is Gay, and still cares about what people say When THey state what They don't approve of, (in terms of THings like this)


So Confusing the world has to be for an Emo Panda.


Silly Emo Panda.

The world is teh wrongs. I can't even put up mine own opinion?

I think the freedom of religion is a good point, but let's not forget american rights are based on what religion? Christianity. And what about our laws. Made by who? Christians! Thus the reason why it is such a big deal.

Nuff Sed on my p.o.v.

I was saying
"TO one side of people bitching, The other side always comes to spit fire as equally well.."

- o - Svetlana - o -


Zahth
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 8:45 pm


Zahth
Just to break into the defenses.......

The United states of america is created under the idea of Freedom not cristianity..........BY A BUNCH OF SLAVE OWNERS

The idea that everyone should have a freedom of speech and the ability to vote........AS LONG AS THEY OWN LAND/LIVESTOCK

Those were serious messed up principles to start a nation

======================================

HOWEVER

I feel the need to put the united states into a simple example in order to explain my standings better:

Say the United States is a club as members you pay-dues, ie. taxes, to support public and political government run facilities and programs. The political and public astablishments are run by the club hand book; the constitution of the United States.

Now; the constitution says your club steers clear of religion. That's the deal you made; if you pay for it with taxes it can't have religion in it. That's in the pesky bylaws or subheaders of the handbook.

So as long as everyone is paying no religion in these facilities or programs, ie. the house of congress can not pass a bill banning something because it is deemed a sin within a holy text of a singular religion.

=======================================

AS WELL

There has been genetic proof the sexaul orientation is not a choice but a genetic pre-disposition. It's just the genetic information that determines what sex you are attacted to: Heterosexauls didn't choose to be attached to the opposite sex it just happened.

Think about it, when you were thirteen years old did you wake up and say "righ time to choose my sexaul orientation for the rest of my life."

OR

When you hit thirteen did you brain just make you think "wow that persons hot." Regardless of sex.


My arguement was burried by your posts Panda 0.o

so I posted it again XD
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 8:48 pm


emo panda Yuuki
I'm sorry... I'm just very upset.
I'll stop it..Sorry IG, over reacted..
*sigh* it's just personal opinion about it... and no where in there did I say every gay person had sex... I know gay guys at my school who I assume to be very kind and never have had sex before... I didn't mean to come across like it was necessary to, what I was saying, or at least trying to say, was that sexual preference is a persons choice and belief, similar to religion... It should be a persons choice to be gay and chose their own lifestyle, not be breaking the law in being in a pleasureable mood around someone of the same gender (that does not mean in bed! That's not what I mean at all!!) Love is a natural thing. If it happens to be with someone of the same gender, it shouldn't matter... the government shouldn't get involved in love, it's like saying you can't marry someone you love because their exactly the same as you... I don't find it right... no where in that did I say that they have to sleep together, that the government has bias, whether it does or not, or that I believed same sex marriages are wrong, I simply stated I don't think that the govenrment should bother with it. Appearance doesn't make a difference in true love, why should it make a difference in the government?

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 8:48 pm


Zahth
Zahth
if you pay for it with taxes it can't have religion in it.



THats why I should Of Read all of yours before Going on and posting.lol.
My Rant of uncontrolled furry.
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