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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:11 am
Why are people so eager to point out that someone is being emo? Or has any relation to anything emo for that matter? Now, in my area emo has become slang for "poser" You have long hair? Emo. You like music that isn't widely known? Emo. You want time alone? Emo.
Where do you draw the line between a poser emo and someone with a real problem? If you found they had a real problem would you stop calling them emo. If so, hasn't emo become somewhat of a term for poser?
Why are people so eager to point out someone is emo?
Edit: I see the "emo misconceptions" thread, but this is more around the terminology and why people are so eager to point out someone being emo.
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:36 am
People are so eager to point them out because they are so frustrating. They assume that their outfits and words make them special but they aren't. They make it harder for true depressive to be diagnosed. That's why I hate them at least.
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:49 am
I think it could be something as simple as lack of understanding. People think that depression isn't real, it just has to do with listening to AFI.
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 12:59 pm
*sigh*
First and formost, just because some is or "appears" emo doesn't make them depressed. Around here they don't even call them emo, they call them "scene kids" because they way they dress is the "punk-rock/ widestream screamo music" scene.
"Emo" obviously is the shortened word of "emotional" which became a way to describe a certain type of music because of it's emotional lyrics and meanings. Therefore someone who listens to this "emotional" music could be classified (in the musical/stererotypical teenage labeling world) as "emo".
You can't just randomly point someone out in the mall who wears tight pants, many bracelets and hair that swooshes to the side and assume they're depressed. Listening to "emo" music doesn't make you depressed. End of story.
As for these people making it hard to classify real depressed people, you're an idiot. Obviously if someone is depressed, there are symptoms. I wasn't aware that dressing a certain way and wearing your hair in a certain style was a symptom. Some of the most preppy, cheerleader girls and nerd-type bookworms/class valedictorian people are depressed. There's no way to tell based on clothes and hair.
And of course, there are the people that take it to extremes and an oh so proud of being "emo." Those people we can say are "desperate to make friends" or, "attention whores". Not depressed.
There's my arguement.
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:03 pm
Mystrik People are so eager to point them out because they are so frustrating. They assume that their outfits and words make them special but they aren't. They make it harder for true depressive to be diagnosed. That's why I hate them at least. Also, rich kids wearing ambrecombie and american eagle think their clothes and status make them special. Why contrict that statement to just people who are assumed "emo"? Exactly. And what ever happened to people just wearing clothes because they like the style? Or that it was comfortable? Have teenagers really gone so far into judging every little thing, mostly things they don't like? Do they really formulate hate just because what people look like? If so, this generation is hook, line, and sinker.
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:08 pm
enae volare mezzo *sigh* First and formost, just because some is or "appears" emo doesn't make them depressed. Around here they don't even call them emo, they call them "scene kids" because they way they dress is the "punk-rock/ widestream screamo music" scene. "Emo" obviously is the shortened word of "emotional" which became a way to describe a certain type of music because of it's emotional lyrics and meanings. Therefore someone who listens to this "emotional" music could be classified (in the musical/stererotypical teenage labeling world) as "emo". You can't just randomly point someone out in the mall who wears tight pants, many bracelets and hair that swooshes to the side and assume they're depressed. Listening to "emo" music doesn't make you depressed. End of story. As for these people making it hard to classify real depressed people, you're an idiot. Obviously if someone is depressed, there are symptoms. I wasn't aware that dressing a certain way and wearing your hair in a certain style was a symptom. Some of the most preppy, cheerleader girls and nerd-type bookworms/class valedictorian people are depressed. There's no way to tell based on clothes and hair. And of course, there are the people that take it to extremes and an oh so proud of being "emo." Those people we can say are "desperate to make friends" or, "attention whores". Not depressed. There's my arguement. Of course listening to that genre of music doesn't make you depressed. I'm aware it means emotional, so then someone with depression would usually have symptoms which would limit their social lives. While not obvious at first glance as you get to know the person they'd become more obvious. They people either try to help them, ignore it or ditch them. My argument is that, supposing a scene kid was depressed, would people still call them emo? Why is it that emo became a slang term for depressed and scene kids. You don't actually have to be a scene kid in my area to be called emo. All it takes is one day of feeling down and suddenly you're emo. I'm not saying all emos are depressed or all depressed people are emo.
@ Mystrik As for people with true depression making it harder to diagnose, I don't think so. As it was already said, there would be symptoms that 'm sure people would realize. The difference between a scene kid and someone truly depressed. But they seem to be bunched in the same category. Scene kids is a sub culture now like preps or jocks. They're still called emo because that's the slang for it. When someone has problems they're still classified as emo, even if they aren't scene kids.
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 6:32 pm
Second Hand Opinion enae volare mezzo *sigh* First and formost, just because some is or "appears" emo doesn't make them depressed. Around here they don't even call them emo, they call them "scene kids" because they way they dress is the "punk-rock/ widestream screamo music" scene. "Emo" obviously is the shortened word of "emotional" which became a way to describe a certain type of music because of it's emotional lyrics and meanings. Therefore someone who listens to this "emotional" music could be classified (in the musical/stererotypical teenage labeling world) as "emo". You can't just randomly point someone out in the mall who wears tight pants, many bracelets and hair that swooshes to the side and assume they're depressed. Listening to "emo" music doesn't make you depressed. End of story. As for these people making it hard to classify real depressed people, you're an idiot. Obviously if someone is depressed, there are symptoms. I wasn't aware that dressing a certain way and wearing your hair in a certain style was a symptom. Some of the most preppy, cheerleader girls and nerd-type bookworms/class valedictorian people are depressed. There's no way to tell based on clothes and hair. And of course, there are the people that take it to extremes and an oh so proud of being "emo." Those people we can say are "desperate to make friends" or, "attention whores". Not depressed. There's my arguement. Of course listening to that genre of music doesn't make you depressed. I'm aware it means emotional, so then someone with depression would usually have symptoms which would limit their social lives. While not obvious at first glance as you get to know the person they'd become more obvious. They people either try to help them, ignore it or ditch them. My argument is that, supposing a scene kid was depressed, would people still call them emo? Why is it that emo became a slang term for depressed and scene kids. You don't actually have to be a scene kid in my area to be called emo. All it takes is one day of feeling down and suddenly you're emo. I'm not saying all emos are depressed or all depressed people are emo.
Last time I checked, all human beings can feel emotions. And if a scene kid or emo kid was depressed, I would call them "depressed", since anyone can be depressed. If that's the case, aren't all human beings "emo"?
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:07 pm
enae volare mezzo Second Hand Opinion enae volare mezzo *sigh* First and formost, just because some is or "appears" emo doesn't make them depressed. Around here they don't even call them emo, they call them "scene kids" because they way they dress is the "punk-rock/ widestream screamo music" scene. "Emo" obviously is the shortened word of "emotional" which became a way to describe a certain type of music because of it's emotional lyrics and meanings. Therefore someone who listens to this "emotional" music could be classified (in the musical/stererotypical teenage labeling world) as "emo". You can't just randomly point someone out in the mall who wears tight pants, many bracelets and hair that swooshes to the side and assume they're depressed. Listening to "emo" music doesn't make you depressed. End of story. As for these people making it hard to classify real depressed people, you're an idiot. Obviously if someone is depressed, there are symptoms. I wasn't aware that dressing a certain way and wearing your hair in a certain style was a symptom. Some of the most preppy, cheerleader girls and nerd-type bookworms/class valedictorian people are depressed. There's no way to tell based on clothes and hair. And of course, there are the people that take it to extremes and an oh so proud of being "emo." Those people we can say are "desperate to make friends" or, "attention whores". Not depressed. There's my arguement. Of course listening to that genre of music doesn't make you depressed. I'm aware it means emotional, so then someone with depression would usually have symptoms which would limit their social lives. While not obvious at first glance as you get to know the person they'd become more obvious. They people either try to help them, ignore it or ditch them. My argument is that, supposing a scene kid was depressed, would people still call them emo? Why is it that emo became a slang term for depressed and scene kids. You don't actually have to be a scene kid in my area to be called emo. All it takes is one day of feeling down and suddenly you're emo. I'm not saying all emos are depressed or all depressed people are emo.Last time I checked, all human beings can feel emotions. And if a scene kid or emo kid was depressed, I would call them "depressed", since anyone can be depressed. If that's the case, aren't all human beings "emo"? Eh, I don't make the terminology now a days. Scene kids are always called emo but people with real problem might be called about it for a week, depending on their social status. I know it's quite a stupid use of the word. But that's how it used now.
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:24 pm
Here where I live, scene kids are the kids dressing in the "emo style" simply because it is fashionable. My friends and I have practically phased out use of the term emo in favor of "scene kid" because that's what fits. Scene kids usually aren't depressed, they just pretend to be. God knows why. Being actually depressed is not fun and I don't see why anyone would think to pretend to be like that. Kids who are depressed are not "emo", because emo has pretty much become a style. Kids who are depressed are depressed. I know candy kids, skaters, punks, cyber goths and industry kids who are all depressed. The style isn't what makes someone depressed. The style is what makes someone "emo".
It's understandable how in places emo has come to be slang for being depressed. When the emo scene first began to pick up momentum, the kids in it were depressed and gravitated to this scene because they felt it understood them and was made up of people just like them. Now, though, the term emo isn't quite the same, as mentioned before.
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:40 pm
I am depressed, but I'm certainly far from the connotation of "emo". Yes, sad as it is, the word "emo" is almost exclusively now attributed to kids/teens that dress in the present style, depressed or not. It is assumed that, by their dress, they are depressed. Thank you mass culture...
I don't listen to the widestream music because I can't stand it. It's becoming nothing but people whining into the microphones in time to some basic tune they may or may not have come up with. There's a reason nearly all the music in my collection has no lyrics (with the exception of Dragonforce, love em).
For the people who are genuinely depressed, I always feel sympathy. For the people who are just dressing the style and pretending to be depressed, there are times I'd like to unload on them. Depression is not fun, at all. Bipolar gives a little amusement, but only in that the "high period" is fun. Even then, not fun to be clinically depressed. What's worse is the common misconception that anyone who's feeling "down" or just sad has depression. No, they're just feeling a little depressed... depression is when it doesn't go away for a very long period of time.
For the depressed people who are moving toward the "emo scene", it certainly won't help them. Around my school, the majority of bullying has shifted from the usual nerd-bashing and such to picking on the "emo kids". It's just a bigger target, now that the depressed ones are grouped together and mocked.
Really, the "emo scene" really needs to move on. Let's get the next fad in here before we end up with a mass of mentally scarred children moving into the workplace. I don't know what the next "scene" is, and I really don't care, but "emo" has to stop.
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