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 Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:35 pm
I don't agree with sending people to jail/prison for crimes that have no victim. Such as drug dealers/users, prostitution, what do you all think?
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:40 pm
Well, drug users are victims in themselves. I dont see anything wrong with prostitution, though.
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:43 pm
they are choosing to use drugs, no one chooses to be a victim
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:44 pm
or do they. I forgot about the slave and master thread I was on earlier.
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:47 pm
kind wench they are choosing to use drugs, no one chooses to be a victim They are anyway. If you shoot yourself you're a victim of suicide. I think that's how it works.
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:49 pm
we could go there but they don't put you in jail for committing suicide (gross) or even for attempting it.
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 7:03 pm
Well, I'd still call drug users victims. Regardless of whether they made the choice or not, they're still a victim. And they can't put you in jail for commiting suicide. You're dead. Kind of takes the air out from under teh penitentiary systems wings.
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 7:05 pm
No, I don't think victimless criminals should go to prison.
Honostly, I think it's a waste of prison space. And for that matter, it's a waste of police and judicial efforts.
They're wasting their time dealing with minor drug offenders, prostitutes, and vandals when they could be using our tax dollars to put real criminals behind bars. Murders, rapists, child molesters, all going unnoticed because the cops are dealing with some pothead.
In particular, I don't think druggies should get jail time. They should go to rehab and learn to become a useful citizen, dumping them in jail won't do a thing of good if they can't get better. <3
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 7:13 pm
~HomicidalTendencies~ No, I don't think victimless criminals should go to prison.
Honostly, I think it's a waste of prison space. And for that matter, it's a waste of police and judicial efforts.
They're wasting their time dealing with minor drug offenders, prostitutes, and vandals when they could be using our tax dollars to put real criminals behind bars. Murders, rapists, child molesters, all going unnoticed because the cops are dealing with some pothead.
In particular, I don't think druggies should get jail time. They should go to rehab and learn to become a useful citizen, dumping them in jail won't do a thing of good if they can't get better. <3 If I want to be a pothead and I'm not hurting anyone but possibly myself, why is that anyone's business? why would they need to waste any time or resources on rehab for me?
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 7:15 pm
kind wench ~HomicidalTendencies~ No, I don't think victimless criminals should go to prison.
Honostly, I think it's a waste of prison space. And for that matter, it's a waste of police and judicial efforts.
They're wasting their time dealing with minor drug offenders, prostitutes, and vandals when they could be using our tax dollars to put real criminals behind bars. Murders, rapists, child molesters, all going unnoticed because the cops are dealing with some pothead.
In particular, I don't think druggies should get jail time. They should go to rehab and learn to become a useful citizen, dumping them in jail won't do a thing of good if they can't get better. <3 If I want to be a pothead and I'm not hurting anyone but possibly myself, why is that anyone's business? why would they need to waste any time or resources on rehab for me? But the thing is, doing drugs doesnt affect just you. It affects family, friends, anybody who's close to you.
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 7:19 pm
EsgarBlackpoxs Well, I'd still call drug users victims. Regardless of whether they made the choice or not, they're still a victim. And they can't put you in jail for commiting suicide. You're dead. Kind of takes the air out from under teh penitentiary systems wings. for many people living in urban society, dealing drugs and prostituting is very common and i don't see the harm in it. If you make bad decisions about how you treat your body and spend your money (or earn your living) why does the government care? I think it's a hindrance to free will.
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 7:21 pm
The Tragic Mime kind wench ~HomicidalTendencies~ No, I don't think victimless criminals should go to prison.
Honostly, I think it's a waste of prison space. And for that matter, it's a waste of police and judicial efforts.
They're wasting their time dealing with minor drug offenders, prostitutes, and vandals when they could be using our tax dollars to put real criminals behind bars. Murders, rapists, child molesters, all going unnoticed because the cops are dealing with some pothead.
In particular, I don't think druggies should get jail time. They should go to rehab and learn to become a useful citizen, dumping them in jail won't do a thing of good if they can't get better. <3 If I want to be a pothead and I'm not hurting anyone but possibly myself, why is that anyone's business? why would they need to waste any time or resources on rehab for me? But the thing is, doing drugs doesnt affect just you. It affects family, friends, anybody who's close to you. If it indeed does affect family, friends or anybody who is close to you, then that is an issue for you and family and friends etc., not the police or government.
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 7:26 pm
If it really is victimless, then there is no crime.
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 7:46 pm
Rilian If it really is victimless, then there is no crime. Precisely. Drugs and prostitution should both be legal. If you are the victim, then it's not a crime, as we have the freedom in the US to do whatever the hell we want to ourselves. Or at least should.
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:45 pm
The Tragic Mime kind wench ~HomicidalTendencies~ No, I don't think victimless criminals should go to prison.
Honostly, I think it's a waste of prison space. And for that matter, it's a waste of police and judicial efforts.
They're wasting their time dealing with minor drug offenders, prostitutes, and vandals when they could be using our tax dollars to put real criminals behind bars. Murders, rapists, child molesters, all going unnoticed because the cops are dealing with some pothead.
In particular, I don't think druggies should get jail time. They should go to rehab and learn to become a useful citizen, dumping them in jail won't do a thing of good if they can't get better. <3 If I want to be a pothead and I'm not hurting anyone but possibly myself, why is that anyone's business? why would they need to waste any time or resources on rehab for me? But the thing is, doing drugs doesnt affect just you. It affects family, friends, anybody who's close to you.
Hence, the reason they go to rehab. It would be much better for them to go to a helpful place where they can recover from an addiction. That way when they are released they can go back to their family and friends a new person, not the same old drug addict that got arrested once and probably will again if not helped.
<3
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