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 Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:05 pm
"All are free to believe or not to believe, all are free to practice a faith, or not. But those who believe must be free to speak of and act on their belief, to apply moral teaching to public questions.
Without God, there is no virtue because there is no prompting of the conscience. Without God we are mired in the material, that flat world that tells us only what the senses perceive. Without God there is a coarsening of the society. Without God democracy will not and cannot long endure. And that, simply, is the heart of my message: if we ever forget that we are One Nation Under God, then we will be a nation gone under."
~Ronald Reagan~
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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 12:24 pm
I agree with him. Since, most athiest countries are communist, and countries that are Islamic are ruled by dictators too, except for Iraq but their situation isn't any better either.
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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:27 pm
countries aren't communist because they are atheist, they are atheist because they are communist. the existence of a religion mandates a hierarchy, and that cannot exist in a communistic country. thus, just because a country is atheist doesnt mean it is going to be communist, however, if a country is communist, then it is most likely atheist. and, in the case of Iraq, they have just come from one of the most turbulent time period in history, and it will take awhile to gain a firm foothold. immediately after the American Revolution, it took 6 years after the British surrender to create a stable government. so, don't judge Iraq in that way just yet
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:39 am
drena_vadess40 I agree with him. Since, most athiest countries are communist, and countries that are Islamic are ruled by dictators too, except for Iraq but their situation isn't any better either. name five islamic countrys that are ruled by dictators please. as for the atheist/comunist thing , i'm with rolland.
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 12:18 am
Japi "All are free to believe or not to believe, all are free to practice a faith, or not. But those who believe must be free to speak of and act on their belief, to apply moral teaching to public questions. Without God, there is no virtue because there is no prompting of the conscience. Without God we are mired in the material, that flat world that tells us only what the senses perceive. Without God there is a coarsening of the society. Without God democracy will not and cannot long endure. And that, simply, is the heart of my message: if we ever forget that we are One Nation Under God, then we will be a nation gone under." ~Ronald Reagan~ Amen, only old "Blood and Guts" could have said it better! Blood and Guts = Patton
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 4:25 pm
I really hope Iraq will work things out, but I kinda doubt it will happen even as quickly as that. The reason we were able to establish a government so quickly after the American Revolution was because we got ourselves free.
The people of Iraq had to depend on us to get them freed, so they may not even be ready for a democracy. That's the only real problem with our "spread democracy" ideal. In order to maintain democracy, you have to earn it in the first place.
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 6:48 am
Japi I really hope Iraq will work things out, but I kinda doubt it will happen even as quickly as that. The reason we were able to establish a government so quickly after the American Revolution was because we got ourselves free. The people of Iraq had to depend on us to get them freed, so they may not even be ready for a democracy. That's the only real problem with our "spread democracy" ideal. In order to maintain democracy, you have to earn it in the first place. if you want to get technical they didn't really depend on america to get them freed, America just decided they were going to ram freedom down the Iraqi's throats whether they wanted it or not. people have to get it onb their own .the government Iraq has is pretty much a US-controlled puppet, although i'm sure that's what bush had in mind from the start.
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 8:43 am
Mr. Regan was the wisest president lol
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 9:54 pm
Treaty of Tripoli, Article 11: Art. 11.
"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion...."
America is not One Nation Under God. The "under God" and "In God we trust" slogans were adopted in the 1950s.
The Treaty of Tripoli was ratified unanimously by the Senate in 1796, only 20 years after the Declaration of Independence.
The United States is not Under God and never has been.
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:52 am
Our founding fathers all were devout christians. Some could even quote the entire Bible. Others believed you couldn't call yourself an American if you didn't believe in God. This country was started because people wanted to be free to worship God. When we started falling away is when the bad things started to happen here. There is a beautiful song by Carmen called America Again. In it he talks about how sin floods our streets like open sewers, and how from the grave he can hear our founding fathers cry, you need God in America again. "I know the only hope for America is Jesus. The only hope for country now is Him. If we repent, of our ways. Stand frim and say we need God in America again."
Near the end of the song he says something that should be obvious. "If you to see kids live right stop handing out condoms, and start handing out THE WORD OF GOD IN SCHOOLS!!!"
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:54 am
Trista Din . "If you to see kids live right stop handing out condoms, and start handing out THE WORD OF GOD IN SCHOOLS!!!" Sorry, that should have been if you want to see kids live right, looks like I skipped that sweatdrop
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:16 pm
Trista Din Our founding fathers all were devout christians. Some could even quote the entire Bible. Others believed you couldn't call yourself an American if you didn't believe in God. This country was started because people wanted to be free to worship God. When we started falling away is when the bad things started to happen here. There is a beautiful song by Carmen called America Again. In it he talks about how sin floods our streets like open sewers, and how from the grave he can hear our founding fathers cry, you need God in America again. "I know the only hope for America is Jesus. The only hope for country now is Him. If we repent, of our ways. Stand frim and say we need God in America again." Near the end of the song he says something that should be obvious. "If you to see kids live right stop handing out condoms, and start handing out THE WORD OF GOD IN SCHOOLS!!!" Last i checked the country was founded by hippocrite slave owners who somehow thought that "...all men are created equal..." and who didn't want to pay their taxes and they had nothing to do with religious freedom. as for the crack about condoms in schools. i say keep them there. if the kids aren't goign to follow the Wortd is it likely that the kids they will have becuase they didn't have access to condoms are going to be raised to love and serve the Lord? no.
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:16 pm
Trista Din Our founding fathers all were devout christians. Some could even quote the entire Bible. Others believed you couldn't call yourself an American if you didn't believe in God. This country was started because people wanted to be free to worship God. When we started falling away is when the bad things started to happen here. There is a beautiful song by Carmen called America Again. In it he talks about how sin floods our streets like open sewers, and how from the grave he can hear our founding fathers cry, you need God in America again. "I know the only hope for America is Jesus. The only hope for country now is Him. If we repent, of our ways. Stand frim and say we need God in America again." Near the end of the song he says something that should be obvious. "If you to see kids live right stop handing out condoms, and start handing out THE WORD OF GOD IN SCHOOLS!!!"
The Treaty of Tripoli was ratified unanimously by the Senate in 1796, only 20 years after the Declaration of Independence.
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:17 pm
ADirtyRottenPedophile Trista Din Our founding fathers all were devout christians. Some could even quote the entire Bible. Others believed you couldn't call yourself an American if you didn't believe in God. This country was started because people wanted to be free to worship God. When we started falling away is when the bad things started to happen here. There is a beautiful song by Carmen called America Again. In it he talks about how sin floods our streets like open sewers, and how from the grave he can hear our founding fathers cry, you need God in America again. "I know the only hope for America is Jesus. The only hope for country now is Him. If we repent, of our ways. Stand frim and say we need God in America again." Near the end of the song he says something that should be obvious. "If you to see kids live right stop handing out condoms, and start handing out THE WORD OF GOD IN SCHOOLS!!!"
The Treaty of Tripoli was ratified unanimously by the Senate in 1796, only 20 years after the Declaration of Independence. No, our founding fathers were not all devout Christians.
Benjamin Franklin didnt even consider himself Christian, in fact, he was "skeptical of organized religion". He was more of a deist, and had his own beliefs about God, none of which follow the precepts of any organized Christian Church.
George Washington was a freemason, and so were many other "founding fathers".
Thomas Jefferson was opposed to "every form of tyranny over the mind of man". Because Christianity could qualify as this, he was opposed to it as well. In fact, he was the person who pushed for separation of Church and State in Virginia.
Special thanks to Don't Know Much About History by Kenneth C. Davis, whose book i have quoted.
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:43 am
ignorance has been thwarted again.
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