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Alright, so I got on myspace the other day, and some guy had messaged me about my belief in anarchism.
I'll copy-paste the arguement.

Xo[Him.]:
" yuo say you are an anarchist? anarchy is not possible. you claim to be an anarchist, but you believe in unity? how is that so? anarchy is impossible because anarchy does not believe in any systems, only chaos. but anarchy itself is a system and therefore cannot exist. you believe in only fighting when people wrong you, but that is not even close to CHAOS which is the core of "anarchism." see anarchist is not the right word for you...i beleive they formed the word in the late 60's...it is called...HIPPIE!!!"

After reading this I figured he was an idiot, and since I was short on time, I copy pasted the excerpt on this guilds home-thing.
At which point he says...

Xo:
"Just to inform you that someone who derives their thinking from someone else is not an anarchist at all. The logic in the "brief" explanation you gave me is the most widely used co-opt argument used in modern society. The same argument of "If guns were outlawed only outlaws would have guns" is totally ludicris. If government was outlawed then would there be more chaos. You damn well can bet you will. How many times have you heard someone say they want to do somethng but they are scared the police will catch them. How many drug dealers have stopped dealing drugs in their area because the police were policing it heavier. That argument is ridiculous. Government is corrupt, but government is what runs this nation. Without it we would have no roads, no businesses, no schools, etc. This world would be nothing but sliding down the shitter. Maybe you should understand government before you criticize it. I have my PhD in Political Science dude and I know mroe about government and how it works than you will ever know. I also used to be into the whole punk thing for about 5 years and found out it was bull s**t. All systems have flaws, but you can damn well bet that life would be a hell of a lot worse with anarchy. Lastly, ANARCHY means by TRUE definition, not some hippie freelance writer: absence or denial of any authority or established order. Anarchy is itself hypocritical with that definition. Anarchy is a system. A system that believes in no system. There is no such thing as Anarchism. All this utopian bull s**t is against what the "true" anarchists were all about. They wanted to abolish government to rule themselves and have freedom. That thinking is establishing a system, a system of no government involvement and freedom. So i would suggest maybe next time use your own thinking rather than using a co-opt of someone elses writing to defend yourself. Because if you cannot even defend what you beleive in, how can you say it even exists!"

My beliefs were confirmed, I then replied with...
"You want me to use my own thinking? Alright.

Just because you have a PhD doesn't make me any more inferior to you in the field of government, hiearchy, monarchy, ogliarchy, or any thing else involving politics, and by saying "I know more about government than you ever will." you make yourself look like a total a**.
I wasn't being rude to you, you didn't have to be rude to me.

Why do drug dealers deal drugs?
Could it possibly be because they want to get rich quick?
Obviously.
Because in a capitalist society we are encouraged to make money, to compete against others for the biggest check.
And with this competition comes class, and a winner, and a loser.
The winner makes it to the top of the social ladder, at which point he/she uses their "skills" to exploit the working class.
Look at Walmart for example; the average employee working there only makes enough money to BUY things from there.
But it seems like you are trying to argue about government, but capitalism and government come hand-in-hand.

And claiming that without a government we'd have no roads, or other things that the government currently does for us is wrong.
When your garbage bag get's full, you take it out to the trash, correct?
The same principle applies to building roads.
You want a road? Find people who are willing to help build a road with you.
People aren't lazy, if we were, we wouldn't have bothered creating any system, instead we would have died off because no one wanted to get up and plant food, or butcher cattle, or whatever.
Profit does not drive us to work, the need for survival drives us to work.

Go look anarchy up, it says nothing about lack of order, or defiance of authority.
AnarchISM; not anarchy, is a belief, anarchy would be the current state of things if everyone was an anarchist that believed in anarchISM.

We have no need for authority, the only people who say things like, "Man, if I wasn't afraid of getting busted, I'd rape that chick!" clearly have some type of mental problem.
And there'd be no need to steal things in anarcho-communism, since you could make what you want yourself, trade something for it, etc.
But in the case someone does steal something, instead of throwing them in prison, we should adress the reason the person stole the thing in the first place.

And what are you talking about?
You obviously have no idea what the original anarchists were like, go read "The Conquest Of Bread" by Peter Kropotkin; who by chance happens to be one of the orginal anarchists!

I didn't even listen to Punk music when I discovered anarchism genius.
I already know the idiocy of the punk scene.

And again, anarchism is not the lack of a system, it's the lack of a government.

Take your ******** PhD and shove it up your a**.
At least I don't mispell my ******** words."


And now I'm waiting for his reply.

Your thoughts everyone?

ok i didnt totally read thru both of y'allz posts cuz they are ******** long but due to the prevalence of misspelled words and terrible grammar I believe that this guy most certainly does NOT have a PhD in anything. Also if he had a PhD he probably would've been required to take a few advanced social science and poli sci courses and probably would have a better working knowledge of anarchist political thought than 'OMG ANARKEE IZ KAOS!!"

Mr. Awesome did you misspell "steaks' on purpose in your sig? Like, is it a play on words that is meant to symbolize your militant opposition to the meat industry? wink



ninja

Unfortunately the world is full of jackasses like that sad To be honest, it just made me laugh, and I seriously doubt he had a PhD in anything but putting his head up his own a**.

You did make a good reply though, it must be said.

Yeah, I get the same thing sweatdrop It's quite amusing. Plus my keyboard is screwy, (wireless technology stressed ) and it always misses out letters, which is really annoying, especially if i'm in the process of proving that someone is a jackass.

yeah ill have to agree with that fact. most teachers just brush over it cuz theyve been made to believe its foolish by their teachers. in a anarchist society we look at things no matter how outlandishly stupid they are. cuz ya never know if there is any gold buried in that trash. i too have taken these classes in college and am one of 3 in my entire college that know what it really means to be an anarchist.