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 Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:00 pm
Pardon my language, but theme be damned, this is something I can't ignore any more.
I hate skinny. I don't mean normal, I don't mean thin, I mean the skinny every girl has too be. If you're naturally thin, or athletic, fine, that's normal and healthy. But if you want to get thin, don't starve yourself. This is pretty "duh" but I'm not done there. Guys have a lot of pressure too, fellas, I recognize that. A fat guy is automatically a geek or slob. I personally like those with a little more too them redface because it shows a little more self confidence. I have met very few sociable, nice, happy skinny girls. Most of my friends are either normal, a little weighty, or athletic. I know one who is a little shorter then me, but like 2/3 my weight and dieting. And she is a nasty person a lot of times. This is because skinny, dieting and "pretty" skinny like in fashion, comes with a high tension, and trivial life style. I think that we should prize fat over skinny. I don't mean heart-attack obese, but those guys and gals that eat normally, live normally, and end up swaying as they walk. Besides, I personally don't see what ever made skinny attractive. It's also so hypocritical; obesity is a rising problem while skinny is still in style. Maybe if we treated food normally, problems on both end of the scale (pardon the pun) would go down. They say don't judge a book by it's cover, but I've gotten these views from observation.
So, I ask you, how much should we shift 'the norm' too be. Should a "pretty" woman be thin, normal (by this I mean doctor recommended height/weight ratio) or a little jiggly? Or should we get rid of these fads all together, and just let everyone choose their own perfect body? Doesn't seem likely to happen, but one can dream.
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:04 am
I read some days ago an article written by a doctor who said that trying to diet 1% to 4% overweight is actually more dangerous to your health than that over weight because then your weight is most likely just going to bounce up and down around those few kilos.
I prefer to be bit more meatier. Yeah, I have few kilos overweight and I am changing my habbits to more healthier ones but I'm not really dieting and I'm certainly not aiming at some skeleton look. My boyfriend would get mad at me if I would starve my self skinny. whee (He likes when woman has figures)
I've never understood the admiration for skeleton looking models. When did that happen? Some hundreds of years ago in the past the more "meatier" the woman was the more popular and prettier she was considered to be because she was more able to carry a child than an starved looking woman. Some how the situation got turned up side down in the recent decade.
I think it's a good sign that in some catwalks there are now weight limits so too skinny girls can't do modeling. I hope that consept would spread through the whole modelling world because so many kids get wrong ideas from those magazines. Only if they would see how much photoshopping those models still need after the photoshoots, I think they might not be so hard on them self anymore.
About the norm sifting, well I think pretty woman should be an health one. No matter if she's bit skinny, jiggly or normal as long as she is healthy. Of course when it comes to weight, usually the ones that are in the "normal zone" of the BMI scale are usualy the healthiest ones.
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 4:09 pm
I've never eaten as much as I should one day of my life. However, I like the way I look and I don't do diets. I just eat when I'm hungry, but I'm not hungry much. I think pretty should be the girls who, not only have a figure, but have muscle instead of fat. I don't believe in the whole overweight thing simply because muscle weighs more than fat. Thus, you can't tell if a person is skinny or fat just by their weight. Take for example me; I weigh about 125 lbs, but I look like I weigh less than 100. This is because I am mostly muscle. A person can look skinny, but not have muscle. Also, I think if models start being the people with a lot of muscle, it'll encourage other people to start exercising and gaining muscle too. However, people who have more muscle usually need to eat more food to be healthy as well. I don't think we should get rid of fads altogether, but encourage a healthier fad.
And it was a fear of becoming obese that made skinny attractive.
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:29 am
@smurflet: Yeah, usually those who has lots of muscles are actually bit over the normal weight when it comes to BMI because the muscle mass weights more than fat. That's why I think people should be more conserned of is the person healthy than how much he/she weights. An bit obese person can be actually physically healthier than some normal weighted person in some situations.
I'm not a big fan of muscles my self. I like toned body, but I still prefer to be soft. Really muscular and toned bodies feel like rock and in my eyes don't even look pretty, but like many things, that is a matter of taste. I think that's the hardest part of this whole, skinny or not skinny, issue. Many woman believe that men want skinny looking girl when in reality men want their woman have some "filling" over their bones. Of course there are those who like to marry a skeleton but on the other hand, there are many men who like extremely obese girls.
But I've been talking about girls a lot latelly. I might comment on the guy factor. I think the society is more leanient on guys to be fat. You are not automatically labeled as a lazy person, though that too happens. I think that only in the few recent years there have been more and more pressure on the men also to really look good and be "skinny", though usually when men want's to lose weight they gain muscles instead. Rarely men starve them self to look like a clothe hanger. Usually the mens physical health and weight is compared to their "manly" stamina. The more muscles and toned body you got the more manlier and "able" you are thought of to be.
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:49 am
@Lilygwen: I have the muscles, but my skin still feels soft, just not the squishy kind of soft, lol. I don't know, I like the looks of muscular bodies, but I like the feel of the fat on a guy's body. I agree with you on the guy factor though.
I have a lot of guy friends in real life, and most of them said this: The skeleton skinny girls are more like to give them want they want (sex), but the girls with a little meat on them are usually harder to get, have the better personality, and look more attractive too.
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:54 am
I agree with Lilygwen that overly muscular isn't attractive either. Also, a lot of "jocks" have just as much tension and pressure as those dieting. However, smurflet, I get what you're saying, and don't think that I think that all those with muscles are this way either. Eating when you're hungry seems like it should be obvious. The problem is it's not. Dieters see hunger as a side effect, and tend to ignore it (by dieters I mean those who diet excessively or without proper need, not those with medical issues/proper dieting regimes) until it's dangerous. Obesity is caused by the fact that a lot of people eat when they're not hungry, or eat more then they need to satiate that hunger. The fact that skeleton-girls are easy just shows how desperate they are for the approval of others, at the sacrifice of themselves. It perpetuates the problem though, if there are so many guys that prefer easy over "worth it".
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:51 pm
I say as long as they are healthy is the more importatnt thing to how they look. A lot of people have no control over there body though. Eat a ton of crap and you're like 105 or something. Eat like nothing and you're 200 or so.
Me personally I don't care about weight, It's the attitude that's important. If you don't care about your weight but are at least healthy (best to your ability at least) then you are good basically.
To say skinny girls are easy is stretching it a bit. Since I know girls who are skinny and tough as nails at times. They would never have sex just for being skinny. I hate the whole generalizing of skinny and overweight girls though. "Oh skinny girls are sluts and fat girls are nicer and much better people" It's rather stupid in my opinion. The guys who say that buy into the whole crap have a twisted view on the whole weight though. People shouldn't be controlled by their weight. Weight should only affect what you look like NOT what you are like on the inside. Rather pointless to judge people by their weight. Better to get to know the person then you can form a proper opinion on them.
Hope I made sense at least.
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 1:52 pm
Since its apparent this is quite a one sided argument of course you guys are going to say skinny people are rude cause they say your over weight you say they are sticks get over it don't like it do something about it people will live there lives the way they chose whether fat, sticks or otherwise its not any body's place to judge however everybody can benefit with eating right and working out skinny, fat it doesn't matter.
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:34 am
It isn't onesided. ^_^;
Skinny isn't bad. One of my best friends couldn't gain wait if she pigged out 24/7 - which she often does. She's tall, bird-boned, and can't seem to get her wait above 130. Of course she's pretty muscular, but muscles about all there is to her. She doesn't get pudgey.
I on the other hand, am very pudgy. However, many people look at me strangely when I say I feel fat. I mean, they all tell me I look like I weigh 125-130. Even people who don't know me well. And you know what I weigh?
...175 lbs.
I think it really depends on body types. Those who diet (eat healthy and exercise) to overcome obesity, that's fine. Those who "diet" (starve themselves) are in serious danger. My boyfriend had a girlfriend once who-he didn't know this till one day she passed out and had to go to the hospital- after lunch would go into the backroom adn throw it all back up. Just so she would be skinny. And she was little to begin with.
What I want to know is, why can't they be comfortable the way they are? I mean, really. Shake what your mama gave yah, girls. Be proud to not be a size double zero.
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 7:42 am
It did seem a little one-sided there. I know the feeling I look like I couldn't be anymore then 140 pounds but I actually weigh like 210.
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 6:21 pm
At five-one and 123 pounds, I can truly say that I am unhappy with my appearance. (No bashing, please!) From my own personal reasearch, this is a healthy weight. But you know why I'm displeased? It's because I have very little muscle as a whole. It's not that I think I'm overweight (I'm in the 75th percentile, from this site ) it's just that I don't have the drive to exercise. Excuse the hypocrisy on my part! Caoimhe_Faelan, tell your friend not to pig out! That's just plain unhealthy! Really though, we all ought to feel great about our bodies. If we are upset with ourselves, analyze the problem and form a solution. If you're overweight, smaller portions can be a major help! If you are underweight, eat healthily to avoid various health problems in the future. 3nodding
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 1:32 pm
Self-image tends to be a problem with some people.
Really, as long as your eating relativly healthy and all, you should have to worry too much.
And sometimes, really skinny is genetic.
Like, those people that work out ALL the time but still are on the heavy side (club bouncer-looking)? What are you going to do?
Each individual has a choice...
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:49 am
Crinis Self-image tends to be a problem with some people.
Really, as long as your eating relativly healthy and all, you should have to worry too much.
And sometimes, really skinny is genetic.
Like, those people that work out ALL the time but still are on the heavy side (club bouncer-looking)? What are you going to do?
Each individual has a choice... yup thats it
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:54 am
Right it said in here that things are more easier on fat guys. Nope thats not true at all it is just as hard if not harder. Most of the time lenient or not it still is that guys just don't take it quite as hard as girls because they were not taught to dislike lots of weight just not to care quite as much.
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