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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 1:02 pm
Well I need all kinds of views on what you guys think Love is. Because the main character has two different views on it; kind of like a split personality. I need everyone to tell me what they think real/true love or what your personal experiences taught you. I would very much appreciate it if you would take the time to do so. Oh and if you think there is any difference between love and sex....I know this is a bit random but it would help me decide whether Evon and Ishtar should progress slowly or fast in their realtionship.
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:15 pm
Love is a hard thing to define because there are so many different types of it and because the definition varies greatly between one person and the next. Do you mean the type of love that people fall into after a long relationship with each other, the first spattering love with a crush, the unending love of the 90-something year olds who still happily snuggle up together in bed at the end of the day, the childhood puppy love, the parental love, the love between friends, what? I don't mean to be troublesome, but a bit of clarification would greatly help me to answer your question.
The second question I can answer though: Yes, there is a difference between love and sex. You can love someone and not have sex with them just the same as you have sex and not love them. A great many people have the mindset that sex is something you only do with someone you love. It's idealistic... and admittedly most people don't wait to find love before loosing their virginity. But don't be under the impression that this idealism only exists in girls. A great many guys are "saving themselves" for the "right" person too. On another, conflicting viewpoint however there are some who think that love and sex are the same thing. If a girl (or guy) says the fatal words "I love you" they're instantly willing to give it all up... which is rarely true. Anyhow, hope I helped a little. After you clarify the first bit about what kind of love you're trying to have defined I'll post again.
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:06 pm
The type you fall into after a long relationship....
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:11 pm
I'd try to help too, but I think Navenna has a better handle on this than I ever could. sweatdrop
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:32 pm
Generally speaking (because there are always exceptions... a love that grows between two people aftera long relationship is a very deep thing. By this point they've discovered skeleton's in each other's closets (excuse the cliche phrase) and have made the adjustments in themselves to better suit the other person in the relationship. Even if they're small things like no leaving towels on the floor, the front door unlocked at night, etc. they are still changes that were made for the benifit of another person. Love isn't like the movies portray. It's not boy meets girl, goes on a series of dates that happen in a sequence of one love-song, have fantastic movie-sex, and fall in love. Love in reality is a much scaried thing than that. It's realizing that you would rather change things about yourself that have been constant your enitre life to appease someone else. Even far into a relationship where love is involved things are uncertain... because love can fade. Quirks that were once amusing, like the way he runs his hand across his chin before and after shaving every morning can become irksome. But love is also about things other than just habits people have. It's a very deep connection of honestly caring about someone else, which is rare in humans. But there is also a physical side of love. While sex might be seen as an expression of love it is often not done by people who love each other. After a long relationship with or without sex the couple should be able to just lay with each other at night without any pressure to do anything. There also shouldn't be outside pressure to be having sex. You can be in love and not sleep with the other person. In some ways not having sex in a loving relationship might make it stronger because of the amount of respect that comes from one person acknowleding another's preference to wait. But if in a long-lasting loving relationship sex is still an issue being pushed for by one side it might straing things. There isn't that lingering respect of the other person's wishes... only self-centered wants... and I've lost the train of thought I've been following. It's late and I apologize if this was at all as random as I think it was.
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 5:05 am
NO! It makes perfect sense to me, and its helped me a great deal with deciding what and how I want these characters to do or act. Thank you so much! heart You've helped me out more then you think.
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:12 am
Right then, well... you're... um... welcome I guess? Glad my ramblings could be of help.
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:44 am
eek Well that was certainly detailed, Lady M. Are you in love?
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:54 am
Don't ever tell my boyfriend this... but... no. ninja
And I never have been before.
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 6:59 pm
eek What?! Whoa.....
If you're not in love with him then why are you, sorry to say this, but leading him on so to speak?
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:01 pm
Sorry if Im prying just curious...... sweatdrop
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:51 am
Just because I'm going out with a guy doesn't mean I have to be in love with him. Love isn't an instant thing, it doesn't just pop out of nowhere and bludgen you over the head like a crush. I really like my boyfriend but I wouldn't go as far as saying how I feel towards him is love.
A quick over-view of the relationship for prying minds: Senior year starts and we're oblivious to the fact that the other person has existed for 18 years in the same town of under 6,000 people. But, imagine that, we have a class together. Theatre Appreciation was a lot of the ten (yes, only ten) of us sitting on the couch in the back of the class room with our teacher and simply talking about theatre or sometimes non-theatre related topics. Adam was my couch buddy and after first semester ended along with the class I didn't see him again (apart from casual conversations in hall... which was a daily occurance) until the All School Play in which we were playing rival characters (I was an evil henchmen-type person who lives in the end... he was Friar Tuck...) After the play we started hanging out more and more and found out that we have a ton of the same interests even though he qualifies as being a jock (Football and Wrestling mostly). This summer I sat down with him and we had a conversation about how I'm leaving in August to spend a year abroad and we thought it'd be best to try out a relationship together... have fun while it lasts and see, when I come back and he returns from freshmen year of college, if we still want to be together. It's really an odd sort of relationship because we already know exactly when it's going to end.
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:26 am
Oh thats cool, good luck with that then ^^
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 8:11 am
Yeah, I know... it's a weird relationship/situation but for now it's working out very nicely for us. It's fun being in a casual relationship. There's no pressure of the future, just to stay in touch with each other after we part ways. -shrugs-
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