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Lotus Requiem

PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 6:44 am


Collected Definitions of Therianthropy

velveet-wings definition of "Therianthropy".
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The term therianthropy comes from the Greek therion meaning "wild animal" and anthropos meaning "man". Basically it refers to an 'animal person', someone who is both a human and a non-human animal. Depictions of such creatures can be found in mythology, legends and folk law, woven into history. While many of these depictions refer to human-like creatures with physical animal attributes (such as the ever popular werewolf, shape shifters or the Gods of Egyptian mythology) this is not the form I am referring to.

Therianthropy is, if you will, a 'condition' shared by many people from all over the globe and from many different walks of life. It is the belief that a core and integral part of yourself is a non-human animal. This belief is based upon many different experiences and feelings shared by therians. Though therianthropy is a very personal thing, and while there are certain core aspects we have in common, the experiences and beliefs behind therianthropy are often specific to the individual.



Definition stated from another source.
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Therianthrope: therion (greek for "beast) + anthropos ("human being", "man"). Do not confuse "anthropos" with "andros", which means "man" in the sense of "male" in opposition to "woman".

Therianthropy is a constant state of being and way of perceveing/experiencing the world that leads a person to feel and believe they are partially or completely animal inside (in a mental and/or spiritual way). You can't get rid of it and you can't choose it (in the same way you can't choose or get rid of your sexual preferences, the color of your skin, and such as). Most of the definitions you will find about therianthropy describe it as a spiritual concept or a belief, because most of therianthropes see it as spiritual, so don't be surprised if you read many definitions starting with "therianthropy is a belief that...". But again, therianthropy doesn't have to be spiritual.

Therianthropy isn't about having a totem. A totem/guide is a distinct entity, which means it is not necessarily the same specie as someone's animal side (theriotype). You can talk to a spirit guide, they can come and disappear as they want. However, you can't get rid of your theriotype. Also, therianthropy shouldn't be confused with a connection. The word "connection" is used very loosely to refers to a bond with an animal or a category of animals. However, therianthropy is more than being connected to an animal; it is being the animal inside. A connection could be totally unrelated to someone's theriotype. As an example, a wolf therian could feel a connection to tigers or felines in general, and perhaps experience a sense of felinity without having a feline theriotype.

While many therians experience shifts, this is not at all a rule. A shift is described as a mental change into the traits of the therian's theriotype. It can be sudden and chaotic, or it can just be subtle fluctuations between humanity and animality. There are many different kinds of shifts (such as mental shifts, where one's human mindset change to his animal sides's mindest, or phantom shifts, where a therian begins to feel non-existent physical traits such as animal ears or tail). However I am not going to list them; you will find various websites such as the Werelist or Shifters.Org listing various definitions in their encyclopedias, if you want to know more. By the way, non-therians can experience shifts as well; shamans and other people are able to shift into the mindset of another animal, this is what shapeshifting is about.

Therianthropy isn't about surhuman abilities. Being a therianthrope does not make us special, nor it gives us magickal powers or psychic talents. It is not a gift nor a curse and it doesn't make us changing into blood thirsty beasts at night. It is not a cult, and it's not something that can be taught; you can't become a therian. And, above all, therianthropy is not a game. It is not role-playing: we are animal inside, and we are real. Therianthropy doesn't make us cool or smart, it's simply about experiencing things in a different manner, which isn't better than any other.

In fact, each therianthrope experiences therianthropy in his/her own way. There are many different types of therianthropes. Some shift, some don't (contherianthrope are weres whose animal side is constantly blended with their human side, and therefore they cannot shift from a side to the other). Some have multiple sides (polyweres), some are a mix of different species (hybrids). Some wear no labels.
PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 6:45 am


So what is Therianthropy, it is where the human feels an animal side to himself. This is not the same though as for instance Animal Spirit Guides or Lycanthropy. The therian generally doesn't claims to physicaly shift the "lycan" though will claim such capabilities.

The therian feels and sometimes acts like it's theriotype ( phenotype is a word also used but less usefull ), the animal side as some would say. For the therian the animal side is always there, though many people have worked with animal spirits, animal guides or animal souls, the therian is partly the animal. And that has mayor influence.

Think about it as that the shaman can call up the animal and speak with it, lending power temporal from the animal spirit. The therian though being the animal always is influenced by the animal side.

Lotus Requiem


Lotus Requiem

PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 6:47 am


Sites that have been provided by ve;veet-wings
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]http://velvet-ash.livejournal.com/1363.html
A self-essay by me, though written back in '05.

http://velvetwings.net/
My personal website, has a brief introduction to the concept of therianthropy, along with an explanation of all the terms (which are useful to know when reading about therianthropy ). A few personal essays also, though not much because it's not finished.

http://akhila.feralscribes.org/index.php
The personal site of an online friend of mine (to navigate click the pictures at the bottom).

http://liesk.feralscribes.org/
The personal site of someone I met through various therianthropy forums.

http://www.therianthropy.org/forums/
Some very good discussions and theories can be found there, though it is a large forum so digging is required. Also I believe you have to register to view the forums. It is farily quiet there right now though if you have any questions about therianthropy that is a good place to ask them, as you will get a variety of answers.

http://www.werelist.com/
Similar to the forums above, though some of the people there are a little less credible in my oppinion, but still a wonderful site with some interesting people.
PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 6:48 am


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Lotus Requiem


velvet-wings

PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 7:39 am


My name is 'velvet-wings', only two e's in velvet. ;P
And you're welcome to link to my website(the link is on my profile anyway XD). I'm sure no one would mind you linking to the other sites I showed you either, they're all searchable on google and were created so others could read them. :3
One site which I think I forgot to send you is the WereLibrary. It contains essays and information from various other therian related websites as well as links to many resources. Not everything there is the best information, some of the authors are more credible then others, but it is still a good place to get an overview of therianthropy from a wide variety of therians.
PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 7:41 am


That sounds like it would be pretty awesome to have (which I assume I don't since I've never experienced anything like that)

Ixar Raxath


velvet-wings

PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 11:20 am


Ixar Raxath
That sounds like it would be pretty awesome to have (which I assume I don't since I've never experienced anything like that)

I wouldn't describe it as 'awesome'. blaugh
It's just a different way of experiencing life. Sometimes it may be enjoyable/fun, sometimes it can be awkward or embarrassing, sometimes useful, sometimes dangerous.
PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 11:57 am


I have a really hard time believing in therianthropy, mostly because of my background in psychology.
A large number of the people I have encountered who claim to be therianthropes are teenagers. When talking to them it seemed to me that many of them had latched onto the idea of being a therianthrope because they were experiencing identity distress and wanted something that made them special and unique. During the teen years people struggle to discover who they are, what they believe, and what make them unique. A lot of teenagers experience identity distress when they have difficulty answering those questions. One way to deal with identity distress is to latch on to a subculture that makes them feel special and unique. Sometimes they latch on to really dangerous negative subcultures like eating disorders, drug abuse, gangs etc. Others latch on to the concept of being special because of a self-diagnosed mental illness. And then there are others who latch on to the idea of being something magical like a therianthrope, a vampire, a demon, etc (I apologize to anyone who is offended by being lumped in with the wanna be vampires and demons, but I do often see them in the same groups).

These are just my personal observations based a little bit on the theory of psycho-social stages and my own work mentoring teens. I don't mean to insult anyone who self identifies as a therianthrope. I'm just a skeptic who thinks that there are usually mundane psychological explanations for things.

From a religious perspective, I have heard many therianthropes say that they believe they are animal souls who are mistakenly placed in human bodies. Personally, I don't believe God makes mistakes and that everything is done for a reason, and I can not imagine God intentionally putting the souls of animals into human bodies.

Aiko_Kaida


velvet-wings

PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 12:39 pm


Aiko_Kaida
I have a really hard time believing in therianthropy, mostly because of my background in psychology.
A large number of the people I have encountered who claim to be therianthropes are teenagers. When talking to them it seemed to me that many of them had latched onto the idea of being a therianthrope because they were experiencing identity distress and wanted something that made them special and unique. During the teen years people struggle to discover who they are, what they believe, and what make them unique. A lot of teenagers experience identity distress when they have difficulty answering those questions. One way to deal with identity distress is to latch on to a subculture that makes them feel special and unique. Sometimes they latch on to really dangerous negative subcultures like eating disorders, drug abuse, gangs etc. Others latch on to the concept of being special because of a self-diagnosed mental illness. And then there are others who latch on to the idea of being something magical like a therianthrope, a vampire, a demon, etc (I apologize to anyone who is offended by being lumped in with the wanna be vampires and demons, but I do often see them in the same groups).

These are just my personal observations based a little bit on the theory of psycho-social stages and my own work mentoring teens. I don't mean to insult anyone who self identifies as a therianthrope. I'm just a skeptic who thinks that there are usually mundane psychological explanations for things.

From a religious perspective, I have heard many therianthropes say that they believe they are animal souls who are mistakenly placed in human bodies. Personally, I don't believe God makes mistakes and that everything is done for a reason, and I can not imagine God intentionally putting the souls of animals into human bodies.

I totally understand where you're coming from, many so called therians are young teenagers looking to be special and other such things. Not all therians are like that though.

There are also many older therians. I'm 20, I have a very close therian friend who is 35. The owner of a therian forum I belong to is 29, I know many other older therians. Many mature minded people who are logical and rational in their beliefs.
For me, and many others, therianthropy isn't about being special. Being therian isn't special. Different sure, but then everyone is different.
I have always been a therian, before I even knew such a thing existed. I've always identified as feline, when I was younger I knew this wasn't 'normal', I tried to hide it. Tried to deny it. I went on like that for a long time, but as I grew older I began to accept myself more. I knew what I felt, what I had always felt, and rather then continuing to hide it as I had been I wanted to start accepting what I was and find out more about me.
So I began to really think about my experiences and my beliefs. I began to understand and accept myself for what I was rather then trying to change myself to fit in with my friends.
It was a good few years after that I stumbled across the concept of therianthropy. It just put a name to what I had always felt.

Also, I wouldn't describe therianthropy as being 'magical'. Spiritual perhaps, but I don't see any magic being involved.
As for religion, I know a few Christian therians who believe God made them that way, for whatever reason. Personally I believe in reincarnation and feel in the past I have lived lives as felines and those lives left an imprint on my soul that still influences my thoughts and instincts.
There are also many scientific minded therians who believe therianthropy is most probably caused by neurological differences.
PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 2:13 pm


I realize there are people who identify as therian who are logical, rational, and intelligent people. Unfortunately, the vast majority of those I have met have either been teenagers trying to convince me they were special, or adults who seemed very out of touch with reality. I'm sure a lot of people suffering from disorders like schizotypal or schizoid personaity disorder would be attracted to the concept of therianthropy. I realize that doesn't mean all people who self identify are therians are like that.
I actually deal with a similar issue myself. I have dissociative identity disorder (aka MPD). Within the community of people with DID/MPD there are tons of teenagers claiming to have it because they want to be special, and delusional adults who have convinced themselves that they have it. It's just something that attracts those kind of people.

I still can't quite accept that therianthropy is real. I wish I could come up with a better explanation for my disbelief.
I do get the concept though. Since I was a child I have loved felines and been fascinated with them. When I was little I always wanted to be a cat when we played pretend games. When I was 11 I discovered Furcadia and the furry community. I played felines on furcadia for years. In high school I played a live action RPG called Werewolf: the Apocalypse and frequently played Bastet (the feline version of a werewolf in the game). I have many feline personality traits. However, I do not self identify as a therianthrope.

As for reincarnation, I believe in reincarnation as well but I believe that souls stay within the same species, felines into felines, humans into humans.
I think it would be absolutely fascinating if they were able to find neurological differences and even more fascinating if they could discover the cause of those differences. If that kind of research ever turns up I may just change my mind.

Aiko_Kaida


velvet-wings

PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 2:49 pm


Aiko_Kaida
I realize there are people who identify as therian who are logical, rational, and intelligent people. Unfortunately, the vast majority of those I have met have either been teenagers trying to convince me they were special, or adults who seemed very out of touch with reality. I'm sure a lot of people suffering from disorders like schizotypal or schizoid personaity disorder would be attracted to the concept of therianthropy. I realize that doesn't mean all people who self identify are therians are like that.
I actually deal with a similar issue myself. I have dissociative identity disorder (aka MPD). Within the community of people with DID/MPD there are tons of teenagers claiming to have it because they want to be special, and delusional adults who have convinced themselves that they have it. It's just something that attracts those kind of people.

I still can't quite accept that therianthropy is real. I wish I could come up with a better explanation for my disbelief.
I do get the concept though. Since I was a child I have loved felines and been fascinated with them. When I was little I always wanted to be a cat when we played pretend games. When I was 11 I discovered Furcadia and the furry community. I played felines on furcadia for years. In high school I played a live action RPG called Werewolf: the Apocalypse and frequently played Bastet (the feline version of a werewolf in the game). I have many feline personality traits. However, I do not self identify as a therianthrope.

As for reincarnation, I believe in reincarnation as well but I believe that souls stay within the same species, felines into felines, humans into humans.
I think it would be absolutely fascinating if they were able to find neurological differences and even more fascinating if they could discover the cause of those differences. If that kind of research ever turns up I may just change my mind.

It's not really got anything to do with a love for an animal or a want to be that animal. Granted there are some people that will use these things as a basis for their therianthropy, but that's not what it is. You're going to get people who misuse the term within every group, sadly that's just what a lot of people seem to do. I never actually found the RP or Furry communities until after I found therianthropy. razz I have done some RP before, but only wolf RP, not cat. If therianthropy was something I could choose I'd want to be a wolf. XD

I don't dislike cats, I don't particularly like them either. I view them differently to how most people view them; I am both human and feline and so view myself as a part of both species, acting differently around them then I do around other animals. I've had pet cats before, they're ok creatures. Don't get me wrong, some are quite nice. But I'm more of a dog person, I love dogs. I've always wanted a dog of my own. Right now I have four pet rats and I love them too, they're great little animals, very similar to dogs. When I get my own place I want a couple of dogs and a group of rats. Cats? Probably not, unless my partner wanted cats (he likes them as pets). I wouldn't choose to have them, mainly because I tend to feel quite territorial towards other felines in my home. rolleyes

Don't worry if you can't accept therianthropy. I don't really mind either way. razz It's one of those things that is near impossible to understand unless you've experienced it. It doesn't really matter to me if I call myself therian or not, either way I'm me. Therianthropy is just a label that fits what I feel, but when it comes down to it that's all it is; a label for a group of people who happen to share a common experience.

You may find this essay interesting, it's quite long but an interesting read.
http://liesk.feralscribes.org/essay8.php
PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 7:00 pm


Hrm, I know a lot of people that I tend to associate their personallities and quirks with an animal (I'm going twoards a Veterinary Career...)

I have a friend who "is" an otter in my mind, and another who acts like a house cat, and my best friend's a fox, witty, intelligent, and curious.

I personally identify myself with a certain breeds of dogs, namely Cardigan Corgis and Aussies... and occasionally it's something else, usually a raccoon or red panda - occasionally it's a bird of prey (usually an Osprey). My "fursona" is Audacity, if you're curious.

I also admire some animal features, for example, I like to walk on my toes sometimes, like how most mammals walk - with their "heel" or hock in the air. And I nearly always tilt my head like dogs do when I'm curious or I can't understand something, for whatever reason... maybe I'm imprinted on dogs... 0.o And I've always wanted to try those little doggie treats, the beggin' strips or the little steak things... they smell pretty good.

But I always like to look at something from an animal perspective, because then you can understand them, and you can understand how their mind works. My rabbits, for example, I like to get down on their level to get a peek at how they view things, because it's just cool.

I don't think I'm a Therian, but I do have some weird animalistic traits because I'm around animals so much of the time.

Gone Arai


Maku the Dark

Wheezing Smoker

PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 7:13 pm


When I think of this subject, I think of that quote about music: "Music that soothes the savage beast". For centuries and in thousands of cultures, the idea that the psyche of man is not human, but animal related has existed. Even in ancient Christian mythology, such ideas exist. Example would be those angels called Seraphim. They had the heads of animals as well as man. In my theory, I think the heads reflect more than just God's mortal creatures, but the creature that exist in all of us. Totemism (probably mispelled, but oh well) is another popular Therianthropy-like belief. I personally believe that there is an animal inside us that feels "inhuman". Now I don't believe it is connected to an animal species (like how one feels like they can relate to a fox), but that that "inhuman" feeling is true man. I mean, aren't we animals ourselves? The only difference is our level of thinking and perhaps it is this level of thinking that has caused the barrier between who we currently are and the primal beast within us. Also, remember in history class when we learn about those Viking warriors called Berserkers? Who's to say that they somehow managed to find a way to tap into that barrier and unleash the "creature" inside themselves. Also as a note, Vikings aren't the only ones to do Berserk-like actions. Several Indian tribes have been known to follow what the Viking Berserk would do in their "transformation".
PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:02 am


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When I think of this subject, I think of that quote about music: "Music that soothes the savage beast". For centuries and in thousands of cultures, the idea that the psyche of man is not human, but animal related has existed. Even in ancient Christian mythology, such ideas exist. Example would be those angels called Seraphim. They had the heads of animals as well as man. In my theory, I think the heads reflect more than just God's mortal creatures, but the creature that exist in all of us. Totemism (probably mispelled, but oh well) is another popular Therianthropy-like belief. I personally believe that there is an animal inside us that feels "inhuman". Now I don't believe it is connected to an animal species (like how one feels like they can relate to a fox), but that that "inhuman" feeling is true man. I mean, aren't we animals ourselves? The only difference is our level of thinking and perhaps it is this level of thinking that has caused the barrier between who we currently are and the primal beast within us. Also, remember in history class when we learn about those Viking warriors called Berserkers? Who's to say that they somehow managed to find a way to tap into that barrier and unleash the "creature" inside themselves. Also as a note, Vikings aren't the only ones to do Berserk-like actions. Several Indian tribes have been known to follow what the Viking Berserk would do in their "transformation".

I think this is kind of a seperate topic within itself. Humans are just another species of animal, so naturally we will have a base animalistic consious and set of instincts. We tend to think of being 'animalistic' as out of control, violent, dangerous, impulsive etc. In my opinion these are all very much a part of being human. They are human behaviours and actions. It's just that these particular aspects of humanity are looked down upon and so labled as animalistic because of the view 'humans are above animals'. We seem to want to seperate ourselves from animals and make ourselves seem better then them, so lable the 'bad' aspects of human nature as 'animal-like'.

Therianthropy isn't about tapping into that animalistic human nature, it isn't really about tapping into or becoming anything. It's just about being yourself. It's about believing that a core and integral part of yourself is a non-human animal.
I suppose it would be similar to the way in which some people feel they are a different gender inside. It's about personal identity.

velvet-wings


No No Raja

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:55 am


I think at some time in our lives we all wish that we could be animals, or try to relate to them. We make believe when we're young, and as we grow older wish that we could be our pets, perhaps, to lament our own hardships.

It's important to remember, though, that that is pretending. There ARE those that feel a spiritual and emotional connection to animals--while not necessarily sexual, it can be almost religious and prayerful, to an extent. Take me, for example. I like animals better than people, because I can relate to them and they can give me a peace of mind that humans can't. I'm not a therianthrope--but I can understand why therianthropes feel the way they do, I think. Or perhaps not.

In any case, I don't turn down anything until I see solid evidence to the contrary, and this looks very well-informed.
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