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 Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 3:11 pm
I relise that the demand for Ipods computers Mp3’s, televisions and cell phones is high. It seems that you can’t go anywhere these days with out seeing someone with there head phones blaring or cells going off. But is it hurting us more than it’s helping us? I watched a movie a while back and then again about two or three weeks ago talking about noise. It talked about finding god through all the noise and how so often we look for god in things like a burning bush, a parting sea and through acts of inconceivable impossibilities. Why? Sometimes we need to search for god in the silence.
-How are we going to find god with all this noise?
-Can we still find god through all this noise?
-Why can so few of us still hear the voice of god?
-Have you felt the presence of god or had an instance in life were you heard his/her voice?
-Are we beginning to get lost in the world of sound?
-What can we do about it do we want do to some thing about it?
-Why is the silence so hard to deal with?
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 4:18 pm
the kinky boot beast I relise that the demand for Ipods computers Mp3’s, televisions and cell phones is high. It seems that you can’t go anywhere these days with out seeing someone with there head phones blaring or cells going off. But is it hurting us more than it’s helping us? I watched a movie a while back and then again about two or three weeks ago talking about noise. It talked about finding god through all the noise and how so often we look for god in things like a burning bush, a parting sea and through acts of inconceivable impossibilities. Why? Sometimes we need to search for god in the silence. -How are we going to find god with all this noise? I think that it's important for everyone to stop and take a little quiet time for themselves in the day, and just sit. Pray, or just think. Give yourself time away from the world. Everyone moves so fast these days, and I don't think it's very healthy, spiritually, mentally, or physically. Quote: -Can we still find god through all this noise? Absolutely. God is everywhere, and we only have to stop and go "OH YEAH, there You are!" It's harder than you might think, though, maybe. But then, I think it's always been hard, and I think it would be false to say that it's any harder now than it ever has been. Things are just different. Quote: -Why can so few of us still hear the voice of god? There's all this pressure to do stuff, in today's world, especially for teenagers and young adults. You have to go to work, and school, and tons of other stuff, and still have time for a boyfriend/girlfriend, and I think there it's just hard to stop once you're in motion. Quote: -Have you felt the presence of god or had an instance in life were you heard his/her voice? Ah, that's a story for another day. Quote: -Are we beginning to get lost in the world of sound? Possibly, but I think that there's also a lot of room to do good. I also think that it's always been hard, and that while our generation faces it's own obstacles, that every other generation faced their own, and that we can't say that ours are any harder. Quote: -What can we do about it do we want do to some thing about it? That depends entirely on the situation of the Church or individual. Noise is not always a bad thing, and neither is motion. We just need to stop and here what God has to say to us. Quote: -Why is the silence so hard to deal with? I have a hard time answering this question. I prefer silence, and I need silence, in order to function. I spend way, way, way too much time in my own head. I think though, that in a way we're afraid of what God might ask us to do, and to give up.
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Violet_Abyss Vice Captain
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 4:26 pm
Honestly, I like noise. Maybe it's because I've spent most of my life in an urban environment, so I'm just used to it, but I find basic street noise rather comforting. Also, I'm a musician, so when I'm not playing or listening to music, I'm usually hearing it in my head or humming it under my breath.
When you think about it, silence really isn't natural, and I think that's probably why most people don't like it. Even if you're far away from the nearest town, out in the middle of nature, there's still a lot of sounds. Birds and other animals doing their animal thing, trees and plants rustling, the sound of water (if you're near it), insects buzzing, etc. It's not man-made noise, but it's a far cry from silence.
So...I don't think that noise is a bad thing, and I certainly don't feel like it takes away from being close to God. Noise is nothing new. The sounds may change through history, but the noise will always be there. It's a natural part of life, human or otherwise. I always feel the closest to God when I'm playing music, which involves making quite a lot of noise. I think we simply need to learn how to hear God in the sounds around us and appreciate God's beauty that is in all of this "noise" rather than just try to block it all out.
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 6:15 am
I sometimes like silence and I somtimes like noise. It totally depends on my mood and the situation. I have my share of both.
These circumstances have nothing to do if I think about God. Thinking of him comes to me in the oddest situation, but strangely mostly at our housedoor... xd
I am not this "God hearing" type, I am more into feel him, so I am completely uninfluenced by noise. Well, there are situations where I cannot concentrate on God, but also couldn't concentrate on anything else, for example yesterday, when a child was making a tantrum in the bus. (The bad kind of tantrum, when there is no reason for it and you just want to loose your temper and slap the kid and are completely sure that your kids would never become so... sweatdrop )
Oh, and yes, I once experienced him, and sometimes I have this vague feeling of a hand holding me, but this is only a weak version of this feeling I had... once... some time ago, I haven't looked the date up, because this was not important.
Well, I am fine with the world of sounds today, as long no darn teenager forces me to listen to his music in the train or bus, because he has no earphones, and these kids are mostly listening to HipHop, there is never metal, which would make me somehow happy, but except this, it is okay, because I have enough possibilities to retreat from it or can blend it out.
Silence is so hard to deal with when you can't stand yourself anymore or there is no possibility for you to speak to someone else. -Lonelyness. I am fine with saying nthing, when I had someone to speak, and feel heavy, when there is no one.
And last, but not least: Why can so few of us still hear the voice of God?
Well, besides what Violet said, I think, todays world is so frightening that you close your heart and God cannot move in if you don't let him.
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 11:34 am
Total silence freaks me out. I don't like hearing the things my body is doing. I don't like feeling my heart beat and then hearing it a fraction of a second later. I have this illogical fear that if I figure out, or even think about how my body works it will suddenly stop.
Anyway. I need some sort of background noise to fall asleep. A fan, a computer fan, my iPod (correct capitalization I know, apple is stupid)., the TV, my brother playing the PS2 or typing. One night, when he started playing Zelda for the Wii, he put headphones on but I made him leave the speaker on the Wii-mote on. It was amusing. I woke up at various times in the night to sword noises, a bowstring being pulled or a bomb going off.
Also, he played through God of War 2 in one night. I woke up at various parts, hearing Kratos yell something or one of his victims scream. Anyway, I digress.
I think that different things work for different people. I think that some people need some sort of rhythm to really connect with God, while others need complete silence. Others, like myself like some peaceful background noise, but can't really get to that deep level is there is any distracting sort of noise.
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 5:52 pm
I would like to also point out the sort of idea that the noise is metaphorical noise, the general hustle and bustle of everyone doing things on a constant basis, noise like static, that obscures thing, for I firmly believe that God is in music, and other places of literal noise, but that in this case, noise is referring to something else.
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Violet_Abyss Vice Captain
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 7:09 am
Violet_Abyss I would like to also point out the sort of idea that the noise is metaphorical noise, the general hustle and bustle of everyone doing things on a constant basis, noise like static, that obscures thing, for I firmly believe that God is in music, and other places of literal noise, but that in this case, noise is referring to something else. That is sort of what I meant by some sort of rhythm to really connect. But also not. Some people get that giddy feeling when they listen to music. Others don't. Some people have their quiet time with some sort of music going in the background, others do not. The second is more what I was referring to, but music is a very important part of my life and I do agree with you on that.
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 4:33 pm
this may sound stupid but I feel that I need the nosie i grew up in the city and lived there until I was 14 and well i feels so... so odd to not have some kind of human made sound like a phone ringing or a car driving by without it i go crazy, as far a losing god in the noise i dont really blame it on the noise but the things that go along with the noise it seems everytime your cell phone rings everytime you put on your head phones you have to do something along with it! I dont know. it seems if were losing god because of any new age thing its not the noise but time (or lack of it) family half of the time dont even sit down and have dinner anymore parents find out about there kids day from there school bullent and ect and I find it hard through chores school sports drama- both acting and the kind that goes along with high school, ffa and everything else in life to slow down a minute and say "hay god were are you hows it going?" maybe we all need to take a half a second and say "hay god..." or better yet maybe we all need to be amazing mutitaskers and think about god and everything else at the same time -but hay what ever works for you
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