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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 5:45 am
http://www.chomsky.info/interviews/19760725.htmreally good interview with Noam Chomsky, ya'll should definitely read this. I don't agree with him a hundred percent but that's mostly because he's more of a technophile than me and likes industry a whole lot more.
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 6:40 am
Next Dollar After I don't agree with him a hundred percent but that's mostly because he's more of a technophile than me and likes industry a whole lot more. Chomsky is gonna replace you with a robot.
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 8:10 am
After reading that, I'd have to agree he sounds like a technophile. I'm not big on industry, and I see a lot of the stuff that comes from it as un-needed, and that the time spent making those luxery items could be better spent on something else. But hey, if that's what you want to invest your free time in, go ahead. talk2hand *Bookmarks the interview.*
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Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 4:19 pm
Technology has done some pretty great stuff for society, albeit at an enormous cost. Most of the cost can be blamed on the fact that technology has been a festering growth in the agar of capitalism.
One of Anarchy's main attractions is the radical idea that people don't need to work 40+ hours a week. Technology (when properly applied) makes life more comfortable, makes work light, and improves living conditions.
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 5:04 pm
Chomsky always has words to throw at anything and everything.
sometimes he hits the mark and is interesting; often he misses and seems boring and redundant and predictable.
this is from someone who considers herslef an anarcho-syndicalist.
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Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 11:29 am
Mr. Awesome! After reading that, I'd have to agree he sounds like a technophile. I'm not big on industry, and I see a lot of the stuff that comes from it as un-needed, and that the time spent making those luxery items could be better spent on something else. But hey, if that's what you want to invest your free time in, go ahead. talk2hand *Bookmarks the interview.* If anything industry ought to focus on repairing the damage that it has already done to the environment and culture. I don't think it would be that much of a change for an auto manufacturer to start making wind power generator parts. At the basic level, people have to stop separating themselves from nature. Why does anyone need a private jet or a new luxury car every year... bleh. mad
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Ignorance is Your Disease
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 11:13 am
Ignorance is Your Disease Mr. Awesome! After reading that, I'd have to agree he sounds like a technophile. I'm not big on industry, and I see a lot of the stuff that comes from it as un-needed, and that the time spent making those luxery items could be better spent on something else. But hey, if that's what you want to invest your free time in, go ahead. talk2hand *Bookmarks the interview.* If anything industry ought to focus on repairing the damage that it has already done to the environment and culture. I don't think it would be that much of a change for an auto manufacturer to start making wind power generator parts. At the basic level, people have to stop separating themselves from nature. Why does anyone need a private jet or a new luxury car every year... bleh. mad Yeah, those private jets and luxury cars piss me off. Why get a private jet? Just so you can get on it with people you know? What a waste of fuel and labor. I'm starting to think technology is addicting. I mean, it makes our life easier, so we work hard to make newer things to make our lives easier, and eventually we will all be sitting on our butts, while computers and robots do all the work. I actually enjoy working, at least when I'm not being forced to do so. Bah. Some technology isn't so "horrible", but a lot of it isn't really needed, and it does destroy culture.
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 7:45 pm
SHUT UP BEN YOURE JUST JEALOUS CUZ CHOMSKY SPEAKS JAPANESE BETTER THAN YOU.
also you hate technology. omg have you noticed the hypocrisy in using a computer??
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 7:59 pm
joykiller1985 SHUT UP BEN YOURE JUST JEALOUS CUZ CHOMSKY SPEAKS JAPANESE BETTER THAN YOU. wat Quote: also you hate technology. omg have you noticed the hypocrisy in using a computer?? did I ever tell you how much I hate you, cause I feel like maybe I hate you lol jkjk famicommie Technology has done some pretty great stuff for society, albeit at an enormous cost. Most of the cost can be blamed on the fact that technology has been a festering growth in the agar of capitalism. One of Anarchy's main attractions is the radical idea that people don't need to work 40+ hours a week. Technology (when properly applied) makes life more comfortable, makes work light, and improves living conditions. I am not opposed to technology PER SE/in and of its self/whateva But I really feel like Chomsky relies far too much on technology to solve his problems. Many of the issues posed could be solved without advanced technological societies, and some just plain wouldn't exist(at the very least on the scale necessary to need industrial solutions) Course this is where the differences between anarcho-syndicalists and anarchist-communists really come out, it's like the early 1900's all over again, yr getting me all sentimental n s**t. Really my issue is the level of technology necessary or wanted in society. Certainly for myself it is much lower than Chomsky. I have no issue getting rid of things like cars, tv's, etc. etc. etc. even computers(which have quite the environmental footprint). While obviously technology and perhaps even industrial society aren't necessarily evil or unsustainable. I have qualms about using them as crutches or accepting them as necessities in life. and certainly would have answered differently than chomsky on several points.
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:53 pm
I have no problems saying that I am a socially maladjusted person who will fight anyone who tries to take away my internet. <******** cars though. The sooner we get rid of those clunky gas gluzzing two thosand metal hunks o' death the better.
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 7:06 pm
Well, Chomsky works at MIT, so it'd be pretty unusual if he didn't display a wee bit of technophilia. 3nodding
For my part, in my personal life I'm a fair bit of a luddite; I don't own a car or cell phone, I prefer vinyl to digital when I can get it, and I'd rather live in a remote cabin than in the suburbs. But I also have a huge interest in science (perhaps making me a rarity amongst eco-minded radicals), so excitement about developments in aerospace, neuroscience and computer technology comes naturally to me, and I'm not too worried about AI or the technological singularity, but would be against them if they did develop because I'm not big on the idea of losing our bodies, and with them our connection to other creatures.
I think that what technology and science need is to be liberated from corporate control. I mean, I stopped reading tech mags because they all suck up to green capitalism and the like. When science and tech are privatized, all developments lean toward consumerism and away from discovery and genuine goodwill; e.g. Big Pharma marketing antidepressents, polluters publishing biased studies about climate, agreements between auto companies and Big Oil to prevent real progress in alternative fuels, etc. (This is the beauty of Linux; you don't need to support some multibillionaire ******** to do anything.) Science and technology seem fine, but the truth is that increasing privatization is a crisis for workers, society, the planet, and discovery as an end in itself.
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Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 11:03 am
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 5:59 am
I don't think that technology is entirely a bad thing. It just needs to be correctly used, like in repair of the natural world that we as humans have damaged.
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 5:51 pm
Epona Bride I think that what technology and science need is to be liberated from corporate control. I mean, I stopped reading tech mags because they all suck up to green capitalism and the like. When science and tech are privatized, all developments lean toward consumerism and away from discovery and genuine goodwill; e.g. Big Pharma marketing antidepressents, polluters publishing biased studies about climate, agreements between auto companies and Big Oil to prevent real progress in alternative fuels, etc. (This is the beauty of Linux; you don't need to support some multibillionaire ******** to do anything.) Science and technology seem fine, but the truth is that increasing privatization is a crisis for workers, society, the planet, and discovery as an end in itself. wasn't there a thread here about that? it was a pretty sweet thread. also ps hey cutie i didn't remember you posted in gulag wink i really hate chomsky. what's this interview about? it's too long for me to have motivation to skim it.
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:10 am
oh man I got tl;dr-ed! Good thing I didn't post the introduction to Eric Wolf's Europe and the people without history(though it is seriously way interesting and people should read it, maybe I'll go try and find that online now)
it's ok, Chomsky annoys the crap out of me a lot of the time but I thought this was a pretty interesting interview. it's really just a Chomsky answers questions on anarchism thing.
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