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Super Ivan Drago
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:06 pm


The 9/11 conspiracy theorists. Not only are they a good source for unintentional comedy, they have more sects and off-shoots than Christianity. You have the Loose Changers (a group that has the collective intelligence of a small, yet annoying housefly,) the "Pentacon'ers" who don't buy the official story of what happened at the Pentagon, the "WTC was destroyed by thermite" believers, the Zionist conspiracy theorists who believe that Sliverstein (and Jews in general) orchestrated 9/11, the Infowars disciples who use the "Infowars.com" website (a drift net for every conspiracy theory from JFK to the New World Order) as a gospel book and many, many, many others.

Of course, they all bleed into each other... until you rip one group an new one. Then they start denying involvement with each other. (Dylan Avery, the "director" of Loose Change is now saying a plane crashed into the Pentagon... despite having all 3 versions of Loose Change revolving around an missile or "drone" crashing into the Pentagon.)

I guess we can use this thread for some good ol' debunking and, of course, for some good ol' laughs.
PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:47 pm


Super Ivan Drago
The 9/11 conspiracy theorists. Not only are they a good source for unintentional comedy, they have more sects and off-shoots than Christianity. You have the Loose Changers (a group that has the collective intelligence of a small, yet annoying housefly,)


I think we may be thinking of the same poster in ED.......He never responded to you posting that metal only needs to be weakened by fire, and not melted to have the towers collapse.

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the "Pentacon'ers" who don't buy the official story of what happened at the Pentagon,


Cause they didn't find airplane bits and no survivors' lungs were burned by jet fuel.......no wait..........

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the "WTC was destroyed by thermite" believers


Whose arguent seems to be "THERE WAS A PUFF OF SMOKE!".

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the Zionist conspiracy theorists who believe that Sliverstein (and Jews in general) orchestrated 9/11,


Cause there are no Jews in New York!

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the Infowars disciples who use the "Infowars.com" website (a drift net for every conspiracy theory from JFK to the New World Order) as a gospel book and many, many, many others.


My personal favorite is David Icke. Reptilians as part of the conspiracy.

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Of course, they all bleed into each other... until you rip one group an new one. Then they start denying involvement with each other. (Dylan Avery, the "director" of Loose Change is now saying a plane crashed into the Pentagon... despite having all 3 versions of Loose Change revolving around an missile or "drone" crashing into the Pentagon.)

I guess we can use this thread for some good ol' debunking and, of course, for some good ol' laughs.


I don't think the arguements they give are good for anything except laughs.

Ilikepie4
Captain


Lykus

PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:22 pm


Are you thinking of Pockybot? I used to humor him, but then he started claiming pretty much anything anywhere, at any time, as a fault of some grand conspiracy, including the political leanings of individuals.

I just don't have it in me to pretend to that degree.
PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 8:54 pm


Man, my gramma had a book by David Icke.

Seems that old people, especially the WWII era, are /still/ searching for meaning after watching their kids become the hippie revolution and the punk generation.

And it's sad that charlatans will cash in on it. Thus, we shall strike, and by war of attrition and example, erode such fallacies and their s**t-mouthed propagators.

Theophrastus
Crew


Ilikepie4
Captain

PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 5:12 am


Lykus
Are you thinking of Pockybot? I used to humor him, but then he started claiming pretty much anything anywhere, at any time, as a fault of some grand conspiracy, including the political leanings of individuals.

I just don't have it in me to pretend to that degree.


You must be psychic! xd

Yeah, he seems to have little love of the truth. Whenever someone posts things refuting his claims he ignores it. Lovely fella.
PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 11:10 am


Oh man... If pockybot were to ever post a link that wasn't to infowars.com or prisonplanet.com, I think I would be tickled pink.

When I first started talking to him, he was using a Loose Change thread to preach about is own personal Jesus Christ, Alex Jones. Then, when I started posting about how none of the theories presented in that 'film' could hold any water, pockybot got mad and told me to stop lumping him in with the LC'ers and that he didn't believe that LC was even close to being accurate. Now, mind you, that whole thread before I got there was pockybot basically agreeing with the LC'ers and using that paranoia mind set to sell Alex Jones to them.

A few weeks later, after Rosie O'Donnell started "asking questions" about 9/11 on The View, pockybot started posting about how "Charlie Sheen and Rosie O'Donnell are heroes and should be commended for their bravery." This despite the both of them buying into Loose Change's attempt at historical revisionism... something pockybot denies believing in ( which I find to be rather funny, seeing how his hero Alex Jones does believe in the Loose Change theory.)

So it has become quite clear that either A) pockybot is a liar, B) he suffers from the same selective memory disorder as Alex Jones C) uses every opportunity to push his terribly misinformed paranoid propaganda or D) all of the above.

I choose "D."

Oh yeah, 2-days after the terrible events that took place at VT, pockybot started a thread about a conspiracy theory involving the shooter... 1 hour after Alex Jones posted the same 'theory' on his website.

That said, I would like to amend choice "A" -- A) pockybot is a liar and a tool.

I still choose "D."

Theophrastus
Man, my gramma had a book by David Icke.

Seems that old people, especially the WWII era, are /still/ searching for meaning after watching their kids become the hippie revolution and the punk generation.

And it's sad that charlatans will cash in on it. Thus, we shall strike, and by war of attrition and example, erode such fallacies and their s**t-mouthed propagators.


A good friend of mine is a avid reader of Icke. It's hard and a bit depressing to see my friend, who is usually an interesting intellectual, talk about Icke and Icke's beliefs. I try to balance my "uh-huhs" with a bit of actual skepticism, so I don't completely turn him off to the idea of critical thinking. confused

Ilikepie4
Yeah, he seems to have little love of the truth. Whenever someone posts things refuting his claims he ignores it. Lovely fella.


He was definitely one of the first wake up calls I got in ED. If someone takes your 200-or-so word post, quotes 20 words of it, and then responds, just leave that thread. If you ever see anything like that, it's a tell-tale sign of them not wanting to understand an argument, but wanting to win an argument by pushing it in their direction.

Super Ivan Drago
Vice Captain


Super Ivan Drago
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 1:05 pm


DISNEY DID WTC!

http://www.freewebs.com/joecraine/hiddenmickeys.htm

And everything else, apparently.
PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 7:51 pm


But how did Simba reach the levers and buttons?

Oh, I got it! That calypso b*****d Sebastian helped him!

Theophrastus
Crew


Cromdog

PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 5:21 pm


The biggest problem with conspiracy theories is their implausibility and apparent contradiction of the evidence. No one takes something seriously when they can point and say 'you say this can't happen, yet it clearly can!' Hence, people are going to believe dynamite or something blew up the twin towers, simply because jet fuel burns...heat melts metal...what more need be said?
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 10:24 am


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I thought this was appropriate. The reason behind the punch line isn't readily apparent unless you read most of the rest of xkcd, but yeah.

Lykus


Super Ivan Drago
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 8:31 pm


lol

That's a great comic.

EDIT: Popular Mechanics: Debunking 9/11 Myths Podcast

Excellent podcast. I highly recommend it.
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