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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:14 am


This should be interesting...

Essentially it's a film about America's shitty healthcare system - and I guess the highlight of the film is that many 9/11 clean up workers (who have respiratory damage from the s**t that was in the air after the fall of the towers) were taken to Cuba for 100% free treatment, because they were uninsured and couldn't receive treatment in the US.

Full Story: http://www.alternet.org/story/50911?page=1
PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:17 am


yay Cuba!

Monsieur Rosebud


UF6

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 2:06 pm


I bet its a NAMBAL movie like most of them. Humm not shocking that he would do that to prove a point.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:27 pm


Quote:
I bet its a NAMBAL movie like most of them. Humm not shocking that he would do that to prove a point.


whats NAMBAL ?

comrade acurion 120


Steve Sage

PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:24 pm


comrade acurion 120
Quote:
I bet its a NAMBAL movie like most of them. Humm not shocking that he would do that to prove a point.


whats NAMBAL ?


National Man Boy Love Assication?
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:20 pm


Steve Sage
comrade acurion 120
Quote:
I bet its a NAMBAL movie like most of them. Humm not shocking that he would do that to prove a point.


whats NAMBAL ?


National Man Boy Love Assication?
Major typo on my part, yep thats what I meant.

UF6


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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2007 4:04 am


Looks like the feds decided to get ol' moore for breaking the embargo -

Thursday, May 10, 2007
LOS ANGELES - Academy Award-winning filmmaker Michael Moore is under investigation by the U.S. Treasury Department for taking ailing Sept. 11 rescue workers to Cuba for a segment in his upcoming health-care documentary "Sicko," The Associated Press has learned.

The investigation provides another contentious lead-in for a provocative film by Moore, a fierce critic of President Bush. In the past, Moore's adversaries have fanned publicity that helped the filmmaker create a new brand of opinionated blockbuster documentary.

"Sicko" promises to take the health-care industry to task the way Moore confronted America's passion for guns in "Bowling for Columbine" and skewered Bush over his handling of Sept. 11 in "Fahrenheit 9/11."

The Treasury Department's Office of Foreign Assets Control notified Moore in a letter dated May 2 that it was conducting a civil investigation for possible violations of the U.S. trade embargo restricting travel to Cuba. A copy of the letter was obtained Tuesday by the AP.

"This office has no record that a specific license was issued authorizing you to engage in travel-related transactions involving Cuba," Dale Thompson, OFAC chief of general investigations and field operations, wrote in the letter to Moore.

In February, Moore took about 10 ailing workers from the Ground Zero rescue effort in Manhattan for treatment in Cuba, said a person working with the filmmaker on the release of "Sicko." The person requested anonymity because Moore's attorneys had not yet determined how to respond.

Moore, who scolded Bush over the Iraq war during the 2003 Oscar telecast, received the letter Monday, the person said. "Sicko" premieres May 19 at the Cannes Film Festival and debuts in U.S. theaters June 29.

Moore declined to comment, said spokeswoman Lisa Cohen.

After receiving the letter, Moore arranged to place a copy of the film in a "safe house" outside the country to protect it from government interference, said the person working on the release of the film.

Treasury officials declined to answer questions about the letter. "We don't comment on enforcement actions," said department spokeswoman Molly Millerwise.

The letter noted that Moore applied Oct. 12, 2006, for permission to go to Cuba "but no determination had been made by OFAC." Moore sought permission to travel there under a provision for full-time journalists, the letter said.

According to the letter, Moore was given 20 business days to provide OFAC with such information as the date of travel and point of departure; the reason for the Cuba trip and his itinerary there; and the names and addresses of those who accompanied him, along with their reasons for going.

Potential penalties for violating the embargo were not indicated. In 2003, the New York Yankees paid the government $75,000 to settle a dispute that it conducted business in Cuba in violation of the embargo. No specifics were released about that case.

"Sicko" is Moore's followup to 2004's "Fahrenheit 9/11," a $100 million hit criticizing the Bush administration over Sept. 11. Moore's "Bowling for Columbine" won the 2002 Oscar for best documentary.

A dissection of the U.S. health-care system, "Sicko" was inspired by a segment on Moore's TV show "The Awful Truth," in which he staged a mock funeral outside a health-maintenance organization that had declined a pancreas transplant for a diabetic man. The HMO later relented.

At last September's Toronto International Film Festival, Moore previewed footage shot for "Sicko," presenting stories of personal health-care nightmares. One scene showed a woman who was denied payment for an ambulance ride after a head-on collision because it was not preapproved.

Moore's opponents have accused him of distorting the facts, and his Cuba trip provoked criticism from conservatives including former Republican Sen. Fred Thompson, who assailed the filmmaker in a blog at National Review Online.

"I have no expectation that Moore is going to tell the truth about Cuba or health care," wrote Thompson, the subject of speculation about a possible presidential run. "I defend his right to do what he does, but Moore's talent for clever falsehoods has been too well documented."

The timing of the investigation is reminiscent of the firestorm that preceded the Cannes debut of "Fahrenheit 9/11," which won the festival's top prize in 2004. The Walt Disney Co. refused to let subsidiary Miramax release the film because of its political content, prompting Miramax bosses Harvey and Bob Weinstein to release "Fahrenheit 9/11" on their own.

The Weinsteins later left Miramax to form the Weinstein Co., which is releasing "Sicko." They declined to comment on the Treasury investigation, said company spokeswoman Sarah Levinson Rothman.
PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 10:44 am


well, it seems that the US goverment doesn't want people to know that a thir-world country as a better health care sytem than theirs.

Handmade Soldier


evilsiletto

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 11:07 am


Well, with 15% or less on welfare and even more homeless what do you expect?

They are - unknown - amount of debt, actually costing more then the previous wars put together - Aside from WW2.

I will never bash america, nor the people that live there.. although I do feel bad; not because of the president but because they are becoming more and more like a third world country. Kinda what soldier said but, in differences - not much.

As for the global warming thing, I'm not sure who's fault it is all I know was it wasn't me eek
PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 3:39 pm


It annoys me how Americans always go about saying how communism has destroyed Cuba when they fail to look at the befores and afters. Cuba has electricity, modern medicine, and universal healthcare now- and more, somethings Americans only dream about like standard housing and adequate labour laws. It's doing a lot better than it was when it was run by Americans... god people in this country are ignorant.

Forgotten_Martyr


UF6

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 5:30 pm


Forgotten_Martyr
It annoys me how Americans always go about saying how communism has destroyed Cuba when they fail to look at the befores and afters. Cuba has electricity, modern medicine, and universal healthcare now- and more, somethings Americans only dream about like standard housing and adequate labour laws. It's doing a lot better than it was when it was run by Americans... god people in this country are ignorant.
Do you think that just because of a American it's like this? It has to do with the government, and greedy politicians that don't care. There have always been puppets of all governments that set a standard for what they think. Though Cuba has bad track recored for paying back on debt like ours and I don't know how theres is probably better, still countries wont due that for that reason.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:23 pm


You can view it online through Google or find it at BitTorrent sites. One thing I like about Moore is he doesn't care that his films go online and can be seen for free. He was asked about that during F911 and he said all he cared about was people seeing his films and getting the info and I really admire that about him. What happened is Moore tried to get these people health care here but didn't get it and he took them to Guntanamo Bay (Gitmo) and didn't get it there (republicans were claiming they get the best health care in the world) and than they finally went to Cuba. I'm hoping to watch it tonight.

REDGallenger
This should be interesting...

Essentially it's a film about America's shitty healthcare system - and I guess the highlight of the film is that many 9/11 clean up workers (who have respiratory damage from the s**t that was in the air after the fall of the towers) were taken to Cuba for 100% free treatment, because they were uninsured and couldn't receive treatment in the US.

Full Story: ]http://www.alternet.org/story/50911?page=1

CrowNotAngelGRL


CrowNotAngelGRL

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:24 pm


They're just going after him for political purposes. Moore says he got the proper journalist credientials to go to Cuba and they had plenty of time to stop him for going and they didn't. Gee I wonder why they're going after him after he went there. You know they're spying on him of all people.

REDGallenger
Looks like the feds decided to get ol' moore for breaking the embargo -

Thursday, May 10, 2007
LOS ANGELES - Academy Award-winning filmmaker Michael Moore is under investigation by the U.S. Treasury Department for taking ailing Sept. 11 rescue workers to Cuba for a segment in his upcoming health-care documentary "Sicko," The Associated Press has learned.

The investigation provides another contentious lead-in for a provocative film by Moore, a fierce critic of President Bush. In the past, Moore's adversaries have fanned publicity that helped the filmmaker create a new brand of opinionated blockbuster documentary.

"Sicko" promises to take the health-care industry to task the way Moore confronted America's passion for guns in "Bowling for Columbine" and skewered Bush over his handling of Sept. 11 in "Fahrenheit 9/11."

The Treasury Department's Office of Foreign Assets Control notified Moore in a letter dated May 2 that it was conducting a civil investigation for possible violations of the U.S. trade embargo restricting travel to Cuba. A copy of the letter was obtained Tuesday by the AP.

"This office has no record that a specific license was issued authorizing you to engage in travel-related transactions involving Cuba," Dale Thompson, OFAC chief of general investigations and field operations, wrote in the letter to Moore.

In February, Moore took about 10 ailing workers from the Ground Zero rescue effort in Manhattan for treatment in Cuba, said a person working with the filmmaker on the release of "Sicko." The person requested anonymity because Moore's attorneys had not yet determined how to respond.

Moore, who scolded Bush over the Iraq war during the 2003 Oscar telecast, received the letter Monday, the person said. "Sicko" premieres May 19 at the Cannes Film Festival and debuts in U.S. theaters June 29.

Moore declined to comment, said spokeswoman Lisa Cohen.

After receiving the letter, Moore arranged to place a copy of the film in a "safe house" outside the country to protect it from government interference, said the person working on the release of the film.

Treasury officials declined to answer questions about the letter. "We don't comment on enforcement actions," said department spokeswoman Molly Millerwise.

The letter noted that Moore applied Oct. 12, 2006, for permission to go to Cuba "but no determination had been made by OFAC." Moore sought permission to travel there under a provision for full-time journalists, the letter said.

According to the letter, Moore was given 20 business days to provide OFAC with such information as the date of travel and point of departure; the reason for the Cuba trip and his itinerary there; and the names and addresses of those who accompanied him, along with their reasons for going.

Potential penalties for violating the embargo were not indicated. In 2003, the New York Yankees paid the government $75,000 to settle a dispute that it conducted business in Cuba in violation of the embargo. No specifics were released about that case.

"Sicko" is Moore's followup to 2004's "Fahrenheit 9/11," a $100 million hit criticizing the Bush administration over Sept. 11. Moore's "Bowling for Columbine" won the 2002 Oscar for best documentary.

A dissection of the U.S. health-care system, "Sicko" was inspired by a segment on Moore's TV show "The Awful Truth," in which he staged a mock funeral outside a health-maintenance organization that had declined a pancreas transplant for a diabetic man. The HMO later relented.

At last September's Toronto International Film Festival, Moore previewed footage shot for "Sicko," presenting stories of personal health-care nightmares. One scene showed a woman who was denied payment for an ambulance ride after a head-on collision because it was not preapproved.

Moore's opponents have accused him of distorting the facts, and his Cuba trip provoked criticism from conservatives including former Republican Sen. Fred Thompson, who assailed the filmmaker in a blog at National Review Online.

"I have no expectation that Moore is going to tell the truth about Cuba or health care," wrote Thompson, the subject of speculation about a possible presidential run. "I defend his right to do what he does, but Moore's talent for clever falsehoods has been too well documented."

The timing of the investigation is reminiscent of the firestorm that preceded the Cannes debut of "Fahrenheit 9/11," which won the festival's top prize in 2004. The Walt Disney Co. refused to let subsidiary Miramax release the film because of its political content, prompting Miramax bosses Harvey and Bob Weinstein to release "Fahrenheit 9/11" on their own.

The Weinsteins later left Miramax to form the Weinstein Co., which is releasing "Sicko." They declined to comment on the Treasury investigation, said company spokeswoman Sarah Levinson Rothman.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:25 pm


It's not the health care but it's the health insurance. It's being able to pay for care and apparently in Cuba you can just walk in and you get seen asap and get as good care as a politician would or a celebrity. Health insurance is very expensive here and don't forget the pharmacy companies.

Handmade Soldier
well, it seems that the US goverment doesn't want people to know that a thir-world country as a better health care sytem than theirs.

CrowNotAngelGRL


CrowNotAngelGRL

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:29 pm


Well for a spanish class I had one term I did a presentation with two other girls on Cuba and I know someone from Mexico who went to Cuba for a mission trip and she told me about her experiences there and it's not something I want for my country. From what I understand the people of Cuba don't fight because they're afraid of what they would lose like the health care, education etc. I don't like how Castro owns everything in the country and you only have one political party that rules. We had a one party fascists rule here (the republicans) for a good number of years and I didn't like that at all. We have to have as many voices as we can in the government so the people can truly be represented. I think having the free education, health care etc is good but I don't like a lot of the other stuff that Castro does. I'm not going to say it's ruined their country because it's not for me to say since I've never even been to Cuba.

Forgotten_Martyr
It annoys me how Americans always go about saying how communism has destroyed Cuba when they fail to look at the befores and afters. Cuba has electricity, modern medicine, and universal healthcare now- and more, somethings Americans only dream about like standard housing and adequate labour laws. It's doing a lot better than it was when it was run by Americans... god people in this country are ignorant.
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