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 Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 1:58 pm
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Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:38 am
(blinks) There's no such thing as a chemical imbalance huh? Okay. In that case, that broken leg of yours doesn't exist either. stare
Becase psychology is not taught in the K-12 level as a requirement (which it definately SHOULD be) there are a lot of misconceptions about these sorts of things. And this article points at the heart of what the main battleground is: getting people to accept that psychological disorders are every bit as painful and important as a heart attack, skin cancer, or a broken leg.
Now, it's true that the medication is only a temporary treatment. It truly is. When you have a psychological disorder, all the medication does is alleviate symptoms. The individual person must take steps to correct their behavior or they will always be dependent on the medication. That's how it works with depression. You take medication so you can actually start functioning normally, and then, with the help of a therapist, they begin to rewire how you think to recondition your neural synapses. Without that reconditioning, removing medication will simply result in relapse. Some people don't have the will to change, so for some people, medication is just a cover. For SOME people. Not ALL.
Perhaps psychiatry was called pseudo-science because it's SOFT science. This is not the same thing at all as pseudo-science. Psychology in general (unless you're talking about biopsych) tends to be soft science, because human moralitiy gets in the way of doing experiments that can conclusively prove most theories. For example, we really don't know exactly how depression works in humans, because moral baggage keeps us from experimenting on such people to gain knowledge of how it works. We're limited in what we can know because of that, even moreso for things like personality psych and social psych. Variable control is difficult. You can correlate, but rarely prove cause and effect like you can in hard science.
The field has its weaknesses, but that's no excuse to shy away from it and tell people to not bother getting treated.
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 7:55 pm
I saw the interview, personally i think that Tom Cruise does not really understand the nature of mental illness. Sometimes chemical imbalanced can be help by natural or herbal treatments however medication should be given. If the patient and doctor deem it nessary to place a patient on medication.
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:56 pm
I saw and read the interview. Of the most poignant remarks made about this I heard was on the Daily Show with Jon Stewart.
After introducing the clip, the show displays the clip in which Cruise tells Matt Lauer that Psychiatry is a Psuedoscience. To which Jon Stewart replies "a psuedoscience, unlike Scientology. Why it has "science" right in the name!"
I'm paraphrasing here, but that about sums up the way I feel about Cruise's remakrs.
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 8:42 am
Well, I can see that Tom seems a bit arrogant. Now, I may be ignorant to this word's existence, but where the hell did Tom pull "glib" from? Anyway, I don't think that every person should be given medication for something if there are better, alternative routes. He said something about an ideal lifestyle or "scene for life". I think people have different views on what an ideal life is. Not many people actually achieve their "ideal life". There are always things in the way, mental illnesses for example. If you need medication for it, then take it. Maybe try an alternative route, if there is one, first.
If my opinion or mini-rant seems a bit off, I'm not completely educated in this. I'm just sort of pulling this from my a**.
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 3:42 pm
I'm sure he knows what he's talking about, I mean he is a world known scientist. opps, wait he's an actor. Where the ******** does he get off on talking to much s**t when he probably didn't even take the class in high school. I also think he was trying to get publicity or whatever from being so anti-drugish, since drugs are the cause of all problems and not the thnigs that make people turn to drugs.
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 1:51 pm
I can understand that you may be agianst medicating someone however in some cases it is nessary. If the individual suffers from multiple personalities and tends to be violent. Some individuals may attitually need medication to become stable functioning individuals therefore i think Tom Cruise was wrong in his assuptions.
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Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 5:30 pm
You don't know the history of psychiatry. I do. Okay, Mr. "I know everything about psychiatry", where is your evidence? Tom in this interview treats everything like black and white. It's fair enough to say that antidepressants are not a valid form of treatment, and *blahblah* is a better form of treatment. It's a grey area, there is evidence for and against. That's what science is all about, supporting and disproving hypothesis and theories - you can never prove one, Like Mr. I know everything over here seems to assume. He uses a lot of loaded language to convince people, not real evidence (ahhh, media analysis). First of all, he makes like shock treatment is something nasty. It IS helpfull. People are given anethetic, and are protected before treatent goes aheead. It can prevent suicide, and is used as a last resort. The bad side is, no one really knows why it works. There are theories ofcourse. Pros and cons. I mean, it's a bit like saying "Surgery is gross! You're chopping people up, sometimes against their will! You are DIGGING about in their insides! Insides are meant to stay inside, not outside! Do half the doctors even know what they are doing? Do you know how many failed surgeries there are? You dont know surgery, I do". Same sort of thing. Omitting the good (selective reporting) and making assumptions. How about we say "no, ban painkillers - people use them to OD!! OMG!!!" And there are limits in psychiatry. Is he aware of how strict the ethics committee is when approving research!?! Informed consent, debreifing, professional conduct, etc. It's not like psychiatrists hunt down everyone with a mental illness and force them into shock therepy and put them on illegal drugs. It's about helping. Psychiatrists are doctors with medical degrees. They take the hypocratic oath. If someone doesn't want to take ritalin, there is nothing anyone can do about it - appart from the guardians. Sure, the ideal is not taking antipsychotic drugs OR ANY BLOODY DRUG. Who wants to do chemotherepy? Who wants to shell out money for heart pills? Who wants to suffer schizophrenic symptoms as a side effect? People who want to LIVE. No such thing as a chemical imbalance my arse. Sure, it may not be the cause of depression and other mental illness - but get your arse down to the histology lab and LOOK AT THE NEURONS YOURSELF and then tell us how much you know about the history of psychiatry.
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Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 10:33 am
Starlock When you have a psychological disorder, all the medication does is alleviate symptoms. The individual person must take steps to correct their behavior or they will always be dependent on the medication. This is also the way it works in the world of physical medicine. If you break your leg, Tylenol 3 will help alleviate the pain, but you need a cast in order to help the bones heal. As for what Cruise claims: vitamens and exercise will erradicate depression? What about all those men and women in the army? They are at the peak of physical strength and yet they still come home with problems such as PTSD (post traumatic stress disorder). I'm sorry, but it seems that being healthy physically didn't prevent a psychological disorder. I'm glad he said what he said because it did strike up a great argument and caused people to speak out for psychology. But, unfortunately, there will be some people out there with mental problems that will refute the help of psychologists because Tom Cruise said they are bad. I think there has been a lack of understanding within communities about the benefits of mental health care. Hopefully the controversy sparked by his statements will cause people to pay attention.
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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 8:22 am
True, that this ironically will raise awareness about the issue at hand. Funny how that works, isn't it? People can only have so much on their mind at one time.
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:45 am
Oh my...tom cruise doesn't even know what he's talking about!!! I mean i believe in antipsychotics, not all the time but in extreme cases, or for temporary(short period of time). No such thing as a chemical imbalance!!! Um...if he's such a "psychiatrist" then he would know there is. I mean he's basically saying depression doesn't exist...and it very much so does. Ha! Can't you just picture tom cruise sitting down in a chair with sigmund freud saying "Interesting point" Ha!
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:47 am
Psychology is taught in my High School. Grades 11-12 can go in it, and i'm going in it next year.
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:49 am
I'm in grade 11, next year i'll be in grade 12 lol just thought i'd clerify it...oh my im hyper
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 6:51 pm
eek Ron Bruise is very scary. stressed In both forms... emo
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:00 am
She lay down on the grass,
Looking up at the sky,
thinking, it’s all she can do.
If she disappeared she would not be missed.
She will be gone just like everyone else.
Getting up from the grass,
she walks on the sand,
looking outward towards the sea.
She walks into the water high up above her knees.
~~~♥~~~♥ Narc Lit ♥~~~♥~~~
While we psychology lovers might not like his views, we have to consider that he believes in this "scientology", and he is entitled to his beliefs. I personally am never going to side with him, but I don't think he is an idiot because he believes in something else. Maybe he is full of himself, and maybe he is not a doctor or scientist/chemist/biologist, who understand the total meaning of brain chemical imbalances, but that's just his ignorance.
I hate how he's telling Lauer that people are drugging their children, because Ritalin, became a street drug after it was a drug for ADD/ADHD. Any prescription drug can become a street drug when people began to steal it and sell it on the street, oh wow! Who would have thunk?
~~~♥~~~♥ Narc Lit ♥~~~♥~~~
The waves softly hit her legs.
She looks at the sunset and its yellow-red hues
she walks into the sea, farther and farther,
opening her arms towards the wave.
The water is high up to her hips.
The wave comes towards her.
She looks at the wave with her arms stretched out;
the water starts to rage, the wave hits her body hard.
Then the water calms down. The water recedes,
then darkness falls, and all goes dark.
The sun goes down and the day is done.
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