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Estelyn
Crew

PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 10:27 am


Reading through The Silmarillion I noticed striking parallels between the sheer power and impact of the Silmarils as compared to that of the One Ring. Both were forged (and owned) by corrupt leaders, both were "lost" for a time, and both caused their fair share of death, destruction, and turmoil; the One Ring brought about two wars and a perilous quest, and the Silmarils caused the Kinslaying, the death of Thingol, and the loss of Beren's right hand, among other tragedies. Both tempted and devoured many.

Is there a true comparison to be made between a ring of true evil and jewels wrought of pure light?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 5:18 pm


eek I noticed that too when I was reading The Silmarillion.

Liveta


Tirno

PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 8:23 pm


Estelyn
Reading through The Silmarillion I noticed striking parallels between the sheer power and impact of the Silmarils as compared to that of the One Ring. Both were forged (and owned) by corrupt leaders, both were "lost" for a time, and both caused their fair share of death, destruction, and turmoil; the One Ring brought about two wars and a perilous quest, and the Silmarils caused the Kinslaying, the death of Thingol, and the loss of Beren's right hand, among other tragedies. Both tempted and devoured many.

Do you think there is a true comparison to be made between these calamitous Things?


Well, I would compare the Ring and Feanor's Oath. The Silmarils were flawless and good. However, the Ring and Feanor's Oath both have that same desire for possession and domination. Besides, Feanor wasn't really corrupt in the making of the Silmarils, just proud.
PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 12:45 am


I think there was definately suposed to be a corrilation. I think Sam saw it, too, as he made his speach on adventures atop the Stairs of Cirith Ungol (shortly after the part in my sig). He mentioned a number of parallels that I'm to lazy to quote here.

(I'll probably edit my post when it isn't nearly one in the morning)

Deramin


Estelyn
Crew

PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 3:51 pm


Tirno
Well, I would compare the Ring and Feanor's Oath. The Silmarils were flawless and good. However, the Ring and Feanor's Oath both have that same desire for possession and domination. Besides, Feanor wasn't really corrupt in the making of the Silmarils, just proud.

Ah, I almost forgot that the jewels held the light of the Trees! {edits}

I actually had "(eventually) corrupt leaders" in my original post, because I believe Feanor really became corrupt after the Kinslaying, regardless of all his accomplishments.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 10:31 am


Feanor was currupt since his father married another. I think he had psychological issues that his mother gave all her pwoer and energy to him and died because of it. But as much as they share a coralation, I feel that the Ring was made for evil, to inprove Sauron's evil-making abilities. And even if that was not the ring's orgional purpose, that was the purpose Sauron knew it would be used for. The Silmarils were just jewles, not power sources. They were beautiful and pure, but not powerful. I agree that if anything was the cause of the great slaughter of the first age, it was that terrible oath. Had it not been uttered, many would have lived.

I know I am rambbling, but I also think that in Silmarillion, fate had them all held by a chain. Mandos was meant to curse the oath sayers, Feanor was meant to die and his sons meant to follow father's path. Had they not attacked Cirdan's Harbor and tried to capture Elwing, would the war ever had ended. There must be evil for there to be goodness?

Firewielder


Mademoiselle Kit

Questionable Genius

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:14 am


I don't remember much of the silmarillion, but I did notice that the simarils were like the one ring. I mean, didn't they give a person a hell of a lot of power? Why else would elves fight wars over them?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 11:53 am


They fought wars over them because they were shiny and sparkly xd ! Who could resist that?

Nessa Linwelin


Tirno

PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:52 pm


Nessa Linwelin
They fought wars over them because they were shiny and sparkly xd ! Who could resist that?


Hahahaha, wonderful way to put it.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 7:55 am


Thank you 3nodding

Nessa Linwelin

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