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Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 9:42 pm
So, I've been thinking quite a bit about leadership lately. As I sit here typing this, I've just finished filling out a scholarship application form that asks for extensive "leadership" experience. I'm wearing the sweatshirt branded with my bi-vocational leadership program's logo and tag line. I'm within sight line of several biographies of people proffessed to be "great leaders." I've just finished reading a few chapters of Andy Stanley's The Next Generation Leader, a wonderful and simple book about the traits necessary in leaders today.
So many people talk of qualities that make a good leader. I feel even a bit overwhelmed by how much information there is on training good leaders--and I keep thinking about another book I read about a year ago--Spiritual Leadership--and I'm feeling quite inadequate. Of course, I suppose very few leaders feel up to the task when they take it on.....
But I am wondering what this lovely little guild thinks.
-What makes a good leader? are there specific qualites or circumstances? -Can anyone be a good leader? -What can a person do to increase their capability as a leader?
Spiritual leadership is signifigantly different from say, business leadership. To be able to lead spiritually, one must posess qualities in addition to those of leaders in any other capacity.
-How can spiritual leaders temper their leadership with humility and obedience? -Is spiritual leadership a learned skill or a given attribute?
-Who do you know is that is a picture of leader to you? Why is this? -Do you think of yourself as a leader, or having the capacity to lead? Why?
These are all questions that have just sprung from my mind in the last few minutes...and I am interested to see what everyone had to say, and to discuss it with you all. And of course, feel free to not use my questions in your responses, and just type whatever (on topic) thoughts are floating around in your head.
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Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 11:13 am
If there's one thing I feel that every leader must possess, be they a leader in a spiritual setting or a workplace setting, it is charisma. Without that, I don't think that other human beings will be inspired to follow them. Aside from that, I think that spiritual leadership and workplace leadership, as well as other forms of such (volunteer activities, clubs, etc) require a vast array of different qualities.
It's all subjective. You see, I think you are a fine guild leader online. You possess the quality of organization, which is a must for organizations online to thrive. In the real world, well, I don't know you, but you're feeling as if you lack some quality to be a spiritual leader. Are you confident in your spirituality? Are you a good speaker? Do you know much about your religion, and its scriptures and laws? Are you a good teacher? Do you possess charisma? Can you make the learning process a fun one, or one that inspires passion? Last but not least, and certainly a rarely mentioned trait that I feel you must possess to be a good leader: are you making yourself as presentable a** possible?
I'm not much of a leader offline. I mumble by nature, and I often lose my train of thought. Online, I'd say I can handle the responsibility quite well. Ah, the joys of being faceless and mute.
A leader I look up to is, eh, well, LaVey. I never met the man, but in text and film alone, he was inspirational. He had gathered thoughts, and he was full of new ideas. Intelligence is something I would willingly follow.
I don't think leadership is something that everyone is capable of. It is a skill.
Hope I've contributed something.
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Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 2:42 am
So you would say that leadership is an inherent skill. What about developing leaders from those with a level of given skill in leadership? Do you think anyone can put stock in the many leadership books and methods out there?
I think I agree with you--that some people are simply not leaders. An analogy (a good one for me, yay!) would be music. I have a gift for music; I was born with a talent for it. My friend Penny was not. With training and studying I have increased my level of ability in music, but I first had the natural afinity to it....does that make sense? it's two thirty am here, I'm not really sure what makes sense and what doesn't....
I guess it comes down to what it actually takes to be a spiritual leader. Of course, it takes charisma, and many other aspects attributed to leadership in any other arena. But a spiritual leader has to be more than just wise or knowledgable, or even a good teacher. It's more than presentation....my brain just can't quite pick out the words.
Competence, Courage, Clarity, Coaching, and Character. those are the five aspects of leadership I'm studying right now...I think I'm being too broad....
I think I'm a decent leader. I'm appreciative that you mentioned organization, Pirate darling, because it is definitely my strength. IRL, I've just taken over administrative functions relating to music ministry..LOTS of organizing.....I know I have what is necessary to take charge. I think I lack several things. Just reading this book and being able to discuss it--well, I see just how far I can go in developing myself...
leaders I look up to:
Ulysses S. Grant--a great leader because of his Clarity-his ability to give clear orders even in very uncertain circumstances is what got him to commanding all of the Union forces in the civil war.
George Washington--a great leader because of his vision. He knew where the revolution wanted to get, and he surrounded himself with people who could facilitate the how.
Ellenor Roosevelt-- frankly, anyone who can be married to a president AND have time to write the Universal Bill of Human Rights wins. period.
Aimee Semple McPhearson--she went ahead and changed things up---she wasn't afraid of ruining the status quo in favor of an oppertunity to change and stay relevant to her culture. She understood that the things we hate most about our jobs/churches/whatever today were once someone's brilliant idea-but that didn't mean it always applied. ((This woman is my hero. seriously an amazing Christian woman. Founded my denomination...and she was just stinking cool.))
My senior pastor---he's fallable. he knows it, we know it, but he's great at getting a team of little leaders to be and coaching us up for the metaphorical "Big Game"--he's making me a better leader.
uh...yeah. I should stop typing now.
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:08 pm
I say you have to be an example first. Like if you tell kids to tell people about God, and you sit in your office or whatever all day. Not a good leader.
And you always have to be fair with everybody. Listen to both sides of the story before you judge.
I'm not a good as a leader as most people. I'm normally second banana, or something. So I'm working my way up there.
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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:42 pm
biggrin I don't think I am much of a leader personally. But, all of my friends (and my teachers as well.) have informed me that I take control, and that I am a leader.
The reason I act like a leader is that people need a leader sometimes. My friends get into an argument and I am the one they come to, so I take control of the situation, hoping to stop them from arguing!
And I agree with KILL - A leader has to be an example first. Also, all of you are right, Competence, Courage, Clarity, Coaching, and Character, are important things for a leader to have.
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:31 pm
I actually took a leadership class in my grade 12 year. It was interesting.
-" What makes a good leader? are there specific qualites or circumstances?" There are three different types of leaders. There are controling "you'll do as I tell you" leaders, "lets talk this out" leaders and "you guys figure things out, tell me when your done" leaders. Each are good in different situations. getting to the point and telling people how it's going to work is really good in a time crunch. Talking about things is great when you have time, and you get the feel for other peoples thoughts, kinda like bonding. Yay team work! Letting your team work things out on their own makes them rely on eachother, and not just you.
You can probably point out the problem's with each. generally being a well rounded person makes a good leader. You should be able to motivate your team, be kinda and caring, yet "to the point" when you have to be. You should be able to to talk to your team... which is really important when you have a person who doesn't like to co-operate. They should know that you wouldn't do anything to indanger the team.
-"Can anyone be a good leader?" Good leaders are not born, they are made.
-"What can a person do to increase their capability as a leader?" Practice, expanding your bubble/comfort zone.
-"Do you think of yourself as a leader, or having the capacity to lead? Why?" I can be both. I'm the type of leader who likes to talk things out with my group of people... unless I have absolutly no time to talk, then I spew out how I think things should work, and if anyone has a problem, then they had better throw in a quick oppinion. I don't mind following, either, sometimes a person has to lean back and follow.
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 6:54 pm
this is a good topic. Believe it or not, everyone can be a leader. It is just up to them if they will take the chance to stand up and do something about a certain situation or not. It is neither inherited nor studied, nor are ppl born as leaders. Well for most teens or children born into the family of government officials here in our country, it is an "inheritance" because after your father or mother ends his/her term, one way or another you'll be "pushed" or asked to run for public office. One of our youth pastors encouraged everyone including kids to always stand up for what is right and try to be a leader. Being a leader doesn't mean you should always be the boss and ppl should serve you, but just as what Jesus taught and showed us through his examples, that's how we should act too. I also think it all comes down to being humble. I mean it is true what the bible says about humility, when you humble yourself then God will lift you up into a higher position. Responsibility is another factor too. How responsible are you? That'll help determine how good a leader you can be or you have become. It's also written in the bible that if we are responsible with little things, then we can be entrusted with greater things, and vice versa. Most ppl nowadays tend to shy away from grabbing the opportunity of being a leader, they think that they're not good enough, they're not old enough or they're not rich enough (with regards to political aspects) to serve and help others, well there are a lot of different examples of ppl (young and old, men and women) from the bible who stood up and became great leaders in their time. All we gotta do is acknowledge the boss of all bosses and let Him be the guide as to how to handle the tasks of being a leader. I know this is easier said than done but I guess one way or another, we can do it if we trust God and follow the example of the best leader that ever walked this earth, that is Jesus Christ. mrgreen
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 9:25 pm
Ah, leadership... Such a wonderful thing. I've been training in leadership for the past four, five years now. The military is a wonderful thing. Now, I do know that there are different kinds of leadership. Spiritual and militant are very, very different. I would consider myself a strong leader, at least when it come to getting people from point A to point B easily. I can command attention. I can get people to do what I want. It works. CF definition of leadership: The art of influencing human behavior to accomplish a mission in a manner so desired by the leader. Spiritually, however, is entirely different... Yes, I have guided people on a spiritual journey. I have sent them on a walk through the Elemental Planes of the mind. I have taught peace and harmony through meditation. But really... I am no spiritual leader. I am only a guide. Spiritually, a leader must be able to help those struggling to achieve their own inner spirit. I have yet to be able to do that. I can guide a spirit... I cannot help someone find their own. Not yet. Shocking, no? ~Jazz
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 12:03 am
Superior Jazz Ah, leadership... Such a wonderful thing. I've been training in leadership for the past four, five years now. The military is a wonderful thing. Now, I do know that there are different kinds of leadership. Spiritual and militant are very, very different. I would consider myself a strong leader, at least when it come to getting people from point A to point B easily. I can command attention. I can get people to do what I want. It works. CF definition of leadership: The art of influencing human behavior to accomplish a mission in a manner so desired by the leader. Spiritually, however, is entirely different... Yes, I have guided people on a spiritual journey. I have sent them on a walk through the Elemental Planes of the mind. I have taught peace and harmony through meditation. But really... I am no spiritual leader. I am only a guide. Spiritually, a leader must be able to help those struggling to achieve their own inner spirit. I have yet to be able to do that. I can guide a spirit... I cannot help someone find their own. Not yet. Shocking, no? ~Jazz aaaaahhhh! *Tackles* Where on earth (or gaia) have you BEEN!?!?!
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:00 pm
Rowena Marion Superior Jazz Ah, leadership... Such a wonderful thing. I've been training in leadership for the past four, five years now. The military is a wonderful thing. Now, I do know that there are different kinds of leadership. Spiritual and militant are very, very different. I would consider myself a strong leader, at least when it come to getting people from point A to point B easily. I can command attention. I can get people to do what I want. It works. CF definition of leadership: The art of influencing human behavior to accomplish a mission in a manner so desired by the leader. Spiritually, however, is entirely different... Yes, I have guided people on a spiritual journey. I have sent them on a walk through the Elemental Planes of the mind. I have taught peace and harmony through meditation. But really... I am no spiritual leader. I am only a guide. Spiritually, a leader must be able to help those struggling to achieve their own inner spirit. I have yet to be able to do that. I can guide a spirit... I cannot help someone find their own. Not yet. Shocking, no? ~Jazz aaaaahhhh! *Tackles* Where on earth (or gaia) have you BEEN!?!?! ~Scuttles out of the way~ Oh, here and there... ninja
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 1:58 am
Superior Jazz Rowena Marion Superior Jazz Ah, leadership... Such a wonderful thing. I've been training in leadership for the past four, five years now. The military is a wonderful thing. Now, I do know that there are different kinds of leadership. Spiritual and militant are very, very different. I would consider myself a strong leader, at least when it come to getting people from point A to point B easily. I can command attention. I can get people to do what I want. It works. CF definition of leadership: The art of influencing human behavior to accomplish a mission in a manner so desired by the leader. Spiritually, however, is entirely different... Yes, I have guided people on a spiritual journey. I have sent them on a walk through the Elemental Planes of the mind. I have taught peace and harmony through meditation. But really... I am no spiritual leader. I am only a guide. Spiritually, a leader must be able to help those struggling to achieve their own inner spirit. I have yet to be able to do that. I can guide a spirit... I cannot help someone find their own. Not yet. Shocking, no? ~Jazz aaaaahhhh! *Tackles* Where on earth (or gaia) have you BEEN!?!?! ~Scuttles out of the way~ Oh, here and there... ninja well, it is certainly good to see you. smile
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