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 Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:03 pm
Well I decided to post an Avatar in the Arena. If you'd like to vote on it here is the Link: Erionix - Arena Avatar Any one else got an Avatar up in the arena? Let us know! I'd like to vote for people in the guild. ^_^
Oh, yeah and if you need help with the 1k to enter a avatar let me know I can probably help you out with that. biggrin
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:20 pm
Just voted. Funny, and Offensive I liked the description. mrgreen
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:28 pm
I loved it a lot but that guy going on about how smoking doesn't cause lung cancer or some garbage seemed like such a weird comment to me.
For sure not in all cases but if you want a list of the cases where it has you wouldn't even finish reading them beofre you died of old age.
Anyways I gave them all a tounge lashing and voted for you cause it was a great idea!
What does he work for the cigerette companies or something?
I actually invited him to the guild he's interesting somehow.
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 3:45 pm
I was talking to Nao_Takkun again about smoking and lung cancer and he was saying, "The institutes label any lung cancer death as related to smoking, whether that person ever smoked or not, it's pretty crooked."
So this suggests the books are cooked, is it the government trying to cover their tracks and make sure there is no back lash to their decision in spanking the cigarette companies with high taxes?
I remembered a reference in TV to what Nao_Takkun was saying on Penn & Teller's: Bullshit! Show.
Actually it was about how studies on second hand smoke doing so much damage to peoples lungs are all faulty because they have all been hurried due to budget cuts and no actual science was ever involved in writing out the documents only imagination.
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:20 pm
I know the person responsible for the no smoking on planes, but he did not do anything about second hand smoke based decision the government enacted upon his data, he just measured the level of smoke in the plane and found that it was the same no matter where you sat on the plane or where the smoke was comming from.
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:46 pm
I smoked on a plane once, it's funny I was 12 and I smoked in the very back of the plane. I felt bad but it was a 14 hour flight and I was going crazy. I think it's a good thing to not allow smoking in public places in most situations. It's not fair for people that can't get away from it if it bothers them & for health reasons, especially for the little ones.. I do have to say I think it's total poop if you're outside and away from people and people can avoid you but chose not to and just want to make you feel out of place.
In the state I live in you can't smoke in or within 25 feet of a public building. Even bars...that seems a bit drastic to me, but hey...I guess that's life. It's funny to hear that even though I was in the back of the plane it didn't even matter. Surprising really...
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:31 pm
I don't smoke but I think the anti-smoking laws are stupid.
People are just going to die so why not die doing something they love. Like contaiminaing their lungs.
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:45 pm
I think it should be illegal to smoke outdoors. In Japan they have taken up this law. They have special buildings designed for smokers in mind, so that you can go in and smoke and breath in all the smoke that other people are belching out. It'd be much more effective than telling people to smoke outside...they can just go into these buildings and get their fix...I also think they should be attached to funeral homes or cancer treatment centers..or just beside a large ditch to throw the bodies in.
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:29 pm
But why? It is an infringement of a person's right to enjoy life if they are stuck inside a building when they would rather be outside. And if they are outside then who are they bothering? I understand the No-Inside-Smoking rule because you could be bothering another person but if your outside then the smoke just drifts away. If you don't want smoke in your face then don't stand near a smoker, simple as that. I personally wouldn't want to smoke inside a building with a bunch of people I didn't even know. That would take out the intrinsic enjoyment of the act.
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 11:40 pm
All right to begin with, what ever happened to the good old freedoms we ALL had. Nowadays, it seems that if your a smoker, you are a vicious beast, who is preying on small children. Everywhere you go if you are a smoker you get dirty looks. Laws are even being passed that keep a person from smoking within 25 feet of a public building. If I am not mistaken, that would be limiting our personal freedoms. Of course if you ask a non smoker, then the second hand smoke is killing them, but then think about how things are. When there Smoking sections in restaruants, the only people who were getting second hand smoke were the non smokers who haplessly, and stupidly wandered into that section, and the smokers who were already in there, and didn't care that other people's smoke was entering there lungs. then lets take a look at the properties that smoke has when you are out doors. When someone takes a drag fo a cigarette outside, the smoke has a general tendency to rise, there by escaping the ability to be inhaled by a non smoker. On the rare occasions where the smoke takes a while to rise(though notice that it still rises.)if a non smoker is really and truly caring about weather they ingest smoke or just bitching about the smoke, they will simply walk the few feet that it takes to get around the cloud of smoke. maybe that is what we should address, the problem of laziness, and sheer stupidity involved in the American country. When someone is so lazy they would rather flap their gums, and ingest all the toxins I put in the air, than walk two feet around me is you know that this place has gone completely down the drain. stop being so oppressively bitchy toward one of the few things I actually enjoy doing. Yes I (and the majority of smokers) know the risk involved with smoking, it is printed on the bloody pack. feel free to point out the faults in my rant, but that won't affect my opinion in the least. Sorry if I offend anyone, but thats what I think, as well as many other things, on this topic.
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:56 am
Erionix Well I can understand how some could misread what I was saying. No Smoking doesn't always cause lung cancer, but it is conceivable! In this case it DID. Thank you for stating the obvious, it's quite amusing. Also I know that the October Donation items can be overused along with most Donation Items but I don't care because I liked it. I didn't add it to gain extra points, I added it because I like it, despite general consensus. As for those of you who don't like the demon that is fine. If you just don't understand what it is representing here is further explanation: The demon is a visual representation of something non physical. In this case an ailment. It wasn't just something to throw in for the hell of it. It was something I decided to add for fun and more visual aid that she was under control of her illness. In a sence the demon is her pain.
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 1:01 am
Moleje Well I don't smoke and unless I'm brainwashed somehow I doubt I will take it up. I normally don't care if people smoke and certainly don't heckle smokers either. I wouldn't tell a fat person to go get on a stair master and stop eating donuts. If you are in America, you're not a patriot if you molest people over their own private life decisions. I would want this Avatar to win purely on its contraversial merits.
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 1:46 am
Haha, it has become a smoking topic!
Well I guess I'll throw in my opinions on smoking. Since in a way my naughty avatar started it! Bad Kitsuensha Obasan!!!
ERIONIX'S SMOKING HISTORY:
Anyway to start of I started smoking cigarettes when I was 12...well I had one when I was 9 but I thought it was horrible...well it was it was GPC..laughs*
I actually started smoking weed when I was 10 and most of the people I was around smoked cigarettes too. They all would offer me cigarettes but I always said no because I cared about my health and new that smoking was stupid and was a disgusting habit in fact I even won a damn D.A.R.E. Essay, funny thing is it doesn't take much and my essay was actually mainly about how drinking Alcohol was far worse than smoking marijuana, amazingly mine still won for my class despite the fact that I was truthful about the drugs. (I wasn't smoking marijuana yet when I wrote it either.)
I don't smoke weed now, haven't really in years. I still like Mushrooms, and Alcohol but I'm not going to take them when I'm pregnant and I don't like to take drugs on a regular basis.
I even stopped taking my prescribed medicine because I don't want to risk anything. >_<
Well after two years of being depressed and not giving a damn about life or what people thought I stupidly decided to pick up smoking. I loved it everything about it, the smoke in my mouth and lungs, the cigarette touching my lips and the feel of holding it in my hand. I'm addicted to smoking in every possible way.
I managed to quit one year when I was 14. I picked it back up when I was finally around another smoker and have been smoking since. I've attempted to stop a couple times but for no more than a week at a time.
Now I'm pregnant and I'm planning to quit...in fact if my doctor hadn't recommended for me to keep smoking until she could prescribe niccorette/ or the patch and a new anti-depressants and mood stabilizer I would have already. Thankfully I go to see her tomorrow (well actually in ten hours), and can finally get my first ultrasound and everything else worked out. Now I actually have a reason to stop smoking besides the fact that it's expensive. I also plan on not smoking anymore even after I give birth because I'd rather put money into a college fund for my kid than waste it on tobacco.
My father smoked for 40 years and then gave it up for the family, health reasons and because it was too expensive. (He's 70 now and still very healthy.) Just like him I'll never stop loving smoking cigarette's.
THINGS THAT PISS ME OFF ABOUT SMOKING:
Well first off the are courteous smokes and discourteous smokers
just like there are courteous non-smokers & discourteous non-smokers.
I think that anywhere in the world people should have the choice to smoke outside if they would like, accept highly populated areas where there is no way to avoid someone smoking.
Example:
By highly populated areas I mean like Tokyo, especially if you had a job that made it so you had to transport/deliver items and were constantly stuck in crowds of people.
Otherwise I think people are just being lazy.
If smoking should be completely outlawed so should fast food, unprotected sex, most forms of entertainment, military, war, SUVs, gas powered vehicles, and well pretty much anything that could possibly be harmful or fun in anyway.
Honestly I'd like War, military, and fast food to be outlawed.
What I'm trying to saying is that, it's pretty much just as oppressive against people’s rights to make them stop doing any of those things as it is to outlaw smoking.
I like to smoke when I go to clubs, bars, shows, ect. I don't go as often as I like but when I do if I can't smoke in the place I'd hope to hell they would at least have a place you can go without having to leave entirely.
I'd be okay with the idea of not being able to smoke inside of a place more than not being able to outside anyway.
I think most smokers would agree. Nonsmokers dislike second hand smoke for health reasons, and the smell. Most not "all" but most smokers I know don't like second hand smoke much either, and most smokers smoke for enjoyment. Not to be cool. I like to be outside I love fresh air, I also can't stand smoking in a small space where I really can't breath, let alone enjoy my cigarette.
So I understand why someone that doesn't like smoke, or smoking at all would feel passionately the same way besides health reasons or being afraid of smelling like an ashtray. That is why I go out of my way not to bother other people with my habit/addiction/hobby.
Another things is smoking has a lot to do with the taste and smell. Especially Pipe Tobacco Smoking. If you had to be stuck in a room with 20 different people smoking 20 different kinds of pipe tobacco it would be pretty unpleasant and beside the point in most cases. There are so many different tastes and smells that it would be a headache.
SMOKERS THAT PISS ME OFF:
People that only smoke two drags of a cigarette drive me insane. (Unless they are quitting or smoke the rest later.)
People that drool all over your cigarette drive me insane.
People that smoke to be cool piss me off, and make me sad.
People that chew tobacco kinda gross me out, but that's okay. sweatdrop
People that cause fires in homes and forest because they don't know how to properly put out a cigarette, make me want to scream. (Granted sometimes it's an accident, but in most cases it could be avoided.)
Well anyway smoking "is bad" for you when it comes right down to it.
It's not going to give everyone lung cancer and it's not mans worst evil.
That is how I feel about some aspects of smoking. You have every right to disagree, but being someone that once was not a smoker, and also has been a smoker and will become a non-smoker again I feel I have a bit of knowledge about it.
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 1:52 am
I really have to add this..I love how almost everyone has a different take on things in this guild. I mean everyone is different, but it's kind of awesome.
I just really like how even if people disagree everyone still seems to get along. heart
Laughs* I'm a such a nerd. It really make me happy though. xd
Maybe we should have a random debate subforum.. blaugh
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:03 am
Moleje Moleje Well I don't smoke and unless I'm brainwashed somehow I doubt I will take it up. I normally don't care if people smoke and certainly don't heckle smokers either. I wouldn't tell a fat person to go get on a stair master and stop eating donuts. If you are in America, you're not a patriot if you molest people over their own private life decisions. I would want this Avatar to win purely on its controversial merits. You're such a tree hugging, peace loving, dolphin saving, Clark Kent liking understanding hippie!!! Stair masters can't save the fatties...only whips and starvation can. - (Erionix is a Fatty)
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