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Yukiru or Yukichi?
Yukiru (Yuki x Tohru)
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furubafreak

PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 10:41 pm


Personally I like Yukiru a lot more. I've read the Yukichi parts but the pairing just doesn't feel right to me.
PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 6:31 am


I usually don't tend to think about Yukiru because it seems to me that trying to pair Tohru with one or the other makes a big deal out of something that doesn't even make up *that* much of the series. Most of the plot of the story in general, while it does have a lot to do with Yuki and Kyou, is mainly about how Tohru interacts with *all* the Souma and their curse. The three of them together are a trio of friendship of sorts although it's not that Yuki or Kyou would admit to being friends with each other. The heart of it though really seems to be about friendship as well as addresses a few other controversial issues like accepting a child that was born different. The series has a lot else to offer, so I tend not to think too much about romances you can possibly see because of the above reasons and it just creates more headache if you find out later that your favorite pairing doesn't turn out to be canon. That being said, I haven't heard a lot of good things about Machi, so the idea of Yuki and Machi doesn't make sense to me, but from what I've heard that does seem to be the direction Takaya Natsuki is going with the series. If that is in fact what happens in the end, we just need to suck it up and shut up cuz it's canon whether we like it or not.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 9:56 am


I think that KyoXTohru is the best.
PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 3:25 pm


Who's Machi?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 7:38 pm


Someone from the more recent chapters of the manga. There should really be a spoiler marking on this thread. Gimme a minute.
PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 11:56 pm


Yilei
That being said, I haven't heard a lot of good things about Machi, so the idea of Yuki and Machi doesn't make sense to me, but from what I've heard that does seem to be the direction Takaya Natsuki is going with the series. If that is in fact what happens in the end, we just need to suck it up and shut up cuz it's canon whether we like it or not.


That's really nice.

Oh well, I'm certainly not going to "suck it up". I like Yukiru better and I always will.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 4:20 am


Well, even if you like it better, it won't change what in fact became canon if in fact Takaya Natsuki does decide to pair them together. It's her series and she can do what she wants with it whether we agree with her rendition of the plot or not. In that sense we do have to "suck it up" because complaining won't get you anywhere.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 12:18 pm


You know, I find it to be very funny how people can say "I like Yuki x Haru" or "I like Kyo x Kagura" and not have anyone get all upset because "Well, it's not a canon pairing, so deal with it!" but when someone says "I like Yuki x Tohru" people get really upset. I don't recall complaining about Yuki x Machi, I think it's fine. I just happen to like Yuki x Tohru better, and that's just my opinion. It's not like I'm going to write evil letters to Takaya-sama saying "PAIR YUKI W/ TOHRU NOW OR I'LL FREAKIN' KILL YOU!!", I just have an opinion and I wanted to know other people's opinions. I didn't ask for people to get upset with me for liking something different, and you know, there are actually quite a few people who like Yuki x Tohru. And I don't think that just becuase I like them together it will magically change the plot and I never said anything that suggested I thought that either.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 6:33 pm


The only one that's upset here is you. I'm just stating that people shouldn't be too attached to Yuki and Tohru. My comments not actually specifically aimed at you, but rather aimed at the community revolving around the pairing. You are the only one getting defensive and angry about it. I think other pairings are fine and cool, but some people get really wrapped up in their pairings and don't like to come up and see the truth that what they like is only a *fanpairing*. Even if it doesn't exist with you, it exists with others and has existed for many other series. For Yu Yu Hakusho, for instance, Hiei x Kurama was a very popular fanpairing and so much so that some newer fans thought it *was* canon. The waters were disturbed though when the creator finally came out and said that he didn't actually intend for them to be a pairing and therefore the pairing was *not* actually canon. A lot of people didn't care, but a lot of people also didn't take it well. This is what I'm trying to avoid here in the guild. When I say "you" it's a general "you" not specifically AT you. Careful when you read on forums because you don't get the nice tone of voice in text to clearly understand what the other person's saying, so try to *identify* when the person's talking *IN GENERAL* and not take offense so easily. People on Gaia seem silly and automatically think that someone calmly telling them *the truth* is trolling or harrassing them. Not so, and if you can't take criticism, you need to grow up.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 8:47 pm


furubafreak
Yilei
That being said, I haven't heard a lot of good things about Machi, so the idea of Yuki and Machi doesn't make sense to me, but from what I've heard that does seem to be the direction Takaya Natsuki is going with the series. If that is in fact what happens in the end, we just need to suck it up and shut up cuz it's canon whether we like it or not.


That's really nice.

Oh well, I'm certainly not going to "suck it up". I like Yukiru better and I always will.

Ditto. That was very well put. I'll just have to suck it up as well... sweatdrop

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furubafreak

PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 9:09 am


Well Yilei, you caught me. I'll admit I do get offended easily and I do look for a good arguement but I guess since I run into a lot of people who most of the time do intend to start an arguement, I confuse those people with people who actually don't. I thought you were intending to start a debate (and it really looked like you were after your 2nd post) and therefor I decided to join it. I think the truth in this whole little thing is that everyone wants to look right, whether we want to admit it or not, and making other people look wrong is technically the only way to do it. And that is the whole key to debate, to prove the other person wrong. I try not to start arguements and debates, but if it seems someone is trying to start one with me, I'll join it. It really seemed to me that you wanted to start an arguement and so I decided to put in my opinions. I was getting too worked up and upset but it seems to me like telling someone to suck it up and shut up is certainly not "telling them the truth". The truth is facts, not opinions. And it seems like that was somewhat of an opinion. This thread was originally for opinions, but it seems like we're all getting carried away with our "opinions" (me included) so I'll put this to an end. You were right, I am getting too carried away, but this thread is for giving opinions, not spoiling them. And by telling people who are giving their opinions that we all need to shut up falls more into the catagory of spoiling opinions rather than giving them. And so, this thread has become an arguement thread. I'm sorry if I took what you said the wrong way, but now, let's all continue this thread with more friendly opinions.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 5:13 am


Well, within context it was "shut up", but not actually meant to be rude persay. Somewhat it is, but it's something I blanketed toward the community overall including myself and not to anyone really specifically. Note I said "we all". The wording was chosen more in the cases of the people in communities that are stubborn as all heck. They get *extremely* possessive and defensive for their fanpairing even in the face of the truth, and I've learned that sometimes when you don't get through to people by being nice, sometimes you have to be rude. Especially if it's the denial of something an author would actually *write* and *make* canon. In this case, it's disrespectful of the work itself to deny the actual facts about what happens *in* the series. It's like, how can you say you really *like* the series if you deny what is fact? It's different from not agreeing with it. You don't *have* to agree, but you definitely need to give respect to what actually *happens* and not what happens in your own fantasy world and letting that be the only truth. This kind of thing I've seen as kind of a dividing line between Kyouru and Yukiru fans or at least the more enthusiastic ones. Our opinions need to stop and "shut up" where the facts begin because in they end, they don't really matter in respect to the series. Takaya Natsuki isn't writing it according to what *we* want, and some people have a hard time believing this.

Pairings in general though have as much of a fantatical fangirlism as the legions of fans that follow specific anime men. It's the fanatics that worry me because their minds are *really* closed. In the past, those that enjoyed the pairings were mostly logical. As of late, however, a lot of pairing "hype" has been coming up and more specifically with shounen-ai and yaoi relationships, although the fanaticalism also trickles over to other fandoms such as the schism between KyouxTohru and YukixTohru. With the "hype" there's been an increasing number of people who are for some pairing and illogical as there are those who are against them for whatever reason. As far as the guild goes, I wanted to make sure right off the bat that people realize that in the end only what Takaya Natsuki writes is the truth, and not the fantasy pairings in our minds.

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furubafreak

PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 9:45 am


True. I love the series, and it is my favorite series. I like the pairing Yukichi and I respect it, I just like Yukiru better. I'm sorry I was rude and got upset. In truth, I enjoyed having this conversation with you. You have good arguements, and although your opinions are very different from mine, I liked our discussion (did I spell that wrong?).
PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 8:53 am


Looks spelled right to me. o.oa

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Yukikyo

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 10:57 am


I am a Yukiru fan all the way. They saved each other from the darkness that was eating them from the inside.
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