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 Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 3:38 am
Note: I posted a thread like this in my guild and I also want to post it here to get different opinions. (if that's all right with the mods)
I Want to know your opinions also. This is a discussion on his “Personalities”, how he acts, and other things such as those.
Ok, first of all I have to say that everyone has their different opinion about Youko Kurama, Shuuichi Minamino, and their combined personality known lovingly as Kurama to his friends.
You all are welcome (and encouraged) to debate what is being written in this thread, although I ask that we all keep this discussion civilized. I shall start.
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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 3:39 am
These are my thoughts on Him: (ok this is going to feel like an essay)
All right. First of all I have to elaborate on my “personalities” comment earlier. I have seen MANY fanfics where the author has portrayed Kurama as having as many as three personalities. Those being Youko Kurama, Shuuichi Minamino, and their combined personality Kurama. I agree with this to a certain extent. I believe that there are only two personalities, Youko Kurama and Kurama. I believe that the way he acts as Shuuichi Minamino is just a façade that Kurama puts on in front of people that he doesn’t know, or hasn’t told them about him being an avatar. I also get the genuine feeling that no matter what form he is in that he has a authentic love for his mother Shiori.
~*~ Youko Kurama ~*~
A lot of people don’t understand that as the Infamous “King of Thieves in Makai” Youko had to be VERY ruthless in order for him to get that reputation. Youko would kill a man for looking at him in a way that he didn’t like. And to tell the truth, if I had control of ANY kind of plant-life I’d make them grow into weapons too if someone pissed me off, or was threatening the lives of the ones that I loved. (Just Me)
~*~ Kurama ~*~
As Kurama, he is a lot more considerate to those around him. Albeit if you piss him off in either form you are liable to get your a** handed to you on a silver platter.
I feel that the reason for Kurama’s genius in school is derived from the facts that (1) He has a 1000 + year old kitsune soul living in his body, That would have ANYONE acting smarter than the average person. And, (2) Kitsunes are VERY curious creatures, I have no doubt in my mind that the minute Shiori put a book in her son’s hands he started reading none-stop trying to learn all he could about the atmosphere around him. I can already see the look on Shiori’s face when she sees her five year old son sitting down on the couch reading a college level history book. ::LMAO::
I have to touch on this point just a little before I finish. Many people believe that Kurama is ONLY gay. I’m thinking that he is not so much as he would be Bi-sexual. The reason that I say this is:
In Japanese Mythology, Kitsunes were VERY sexual creatures. That being said, I have no doubt that given the “urge” Youko wouldn’t care what gender his “Partner” is as long as each other enjoyed themselves. BUT I don't think that his thoughts are only based around sex either.
Those are all my thoughts for now. I May add more in the future.
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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:58 am
Awesome!
Well I don't think he is all that bad. its hard to tell too, he rarely shows up in the anime and as for the manga i havnt gotten far.
in my dreams or just pondering I would say he is rather brutal, but reserved with wise decisions or decision making.
He is always thinking ahead in advance.
I think he has a heart of a king, not kind but strict. Thats why he looks so stern all of the time. He knows what he must protect, and so yeah I can say he is not a bad person as what people think.
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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 12:30 pm
Could you classify Youko-Kurama as evil? Or not, based on the environment of the Makai?
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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 5:23 pm
I don't think Youko is really evil, per se, just ruthless. Because after all, his home is the Makai, and you do need a certain level of mercilessness to survive. So I don't think it counts as truly "evil."
My analysis on Kurama's personalities.
Well, first and foremost: There is only one soul--which I must stress. No matter how different Shuichi and Youko seem...they are one. (How terribly cliche I sound.)
One soul, but I think we all can see three distinct personalities--which are just that, personalities. Not different people, which I have to stress again.
The Minamino Shuichi Side
The more human, polite, sweet, gentle, etc., genius. Of course, we all know that this is just a mask at the beginning, but later this side seems to show itself more and eventually fuse with the Kurama side. So it sort of becomes who he really is: a person with a dark past who has developed human qualities of love.
In fanfiction, Shuichi apparently has his trademark Fan Club of Doom! Well, that's his problem, isn't it? sweatdrop
The Kurama Side
Depicted the most often throughout the series. He's the calculating, precise, deadly tactician who can see people's weaknesses and exploit them so easily it's creepy. I like to think of this as Kurama's "main" personality: It expresses him the most.
I have yet to discover why Kurama is so eerily calm, because I don't take the entire "he has years of experience" lecture as a decent answer.
The Youko Kurama Side
The ruthless and cunning legendary bandit. (How like a fox, ne?) He can kill things in the blink of an eye and is a master at breaking codes and seals. Not someone you'd like to meet, unless you're a suicidal fool. This side was let go in the battle with Shigure, but it still is part of Kurama: It merely represents his past.
Many fanfiction writers depict Youko as a sex-craving pig. Excuse me while I hit them over the head with a sledgehammer. There's more to his life than that; otherwise he would hardly be deemed a legendary bandit.
3nodding And that's a brief version of my analysis. The long one would take a long, long time.
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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:07 pm
Quote: Well, first and foremost: There is only one soul--which I must stress. No matter how different Shuichi and Youko seem...they are one. (How terribly cliche I sound.)
But yes, I do and strongly believe that Kurama is not evil.
Sure he lives in the Makai but growing up you would have to have this brute force and perosna.
I see his pictures and the way he acts time to time, but he just acts stern you know. He is a leader and he knows what to do, he even deteted Yomi's rebelness despite of them being freinds, call it cruel but if your in the makai you know it is always about the strong willed and the survival of the able.
Kurama his red head self, he just is a fighter a protector of good. No mistake about that. You can say that he even has a stronger passion.
He tries to move foward and my favorite words that he said was "its about time I find a home."
I would say he is a true warrior of passion. -if not corny-.
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 11:05 am
Yes, Kurama has more motivation and actually has a set goal, as opposed to Youko Kurama.
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Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 9:17 am
Interesting...I am a horrible judge of things like that.
Maybe that's why my Kurama fandom goes up and down.
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Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 9:23 am
There's a story on fanfiction.net called "A Boy of Abject Misery," and from it I take my favorite view of the personalities. At the same time, I say simple-split would make life easier for those who don't want to understand much. Like yami-hikari in Yu-Gi-Oh! fanfiction.
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Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:21 pm
razz Well when it comes to anaylisis, don't use fanfics.
Mainly a big part is well the fandom and how much you can asorb his traits when watching the show and reading the manga.
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Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 6:18 pm
Yeah, I think understanding what Kurama IS in the first place is the concept that baffles most people. The anime and manga seem to disagree because translations are never entirely accurate, and people usually end up thinking Youko and Shuichi are two entirely different people and that they communicate via Kurama's mind.
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 8:50 pm
Those people are ignorant, if you are a true dedicated fan you would be open to the thought that Shuichi and Yoko are the same person...its common sense and a beautiful thing. Most people understand that concept because their minds are extended...not like Noobish minds that think:
"Well Kurama is a low life human that is weak, and Youko is my Sexy beast."
I think John portrayed his chracter well, when it was in the ep. where they went to see Yomi.
Kurama the fighter of good. and what not.
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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 5:12 pm
SeriphimMagician
Those people are ignorant, if you are a true dedicated fan you would be open to the thought that Shuichi and Yoko are the same person...its common sense and a beautiful thing. Most people understand that concept because their minds are extended...not like Noobish minds that think:
"Well Kurama is a low life human that is weak, and Youko is my Sexy beast."
Most n00bish people also think Youko has nothing to do but have sex with everyone he meets. x.x
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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 7:15 pm
I actually had a dream where I told Youko:
"Your are such anucence [Spelling off just sound it out.] You run off with every beautiful female you see or for that matter maybe with males, I don't know where you been, Don't know where your skins been rubbed of, You screw everything in sight and I hate you!"
That was my line to him in a dream, it was my sense of him. But off dreams I just see him as a passionate ruler.
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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 7:44 pm
Ahh yes, the dreams I've had of Kurama...
...Very entertaining blaugh
That's all I care to say, it's a pg13 site
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