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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 11:19 pm
Okay, I know this whole forum is supposed to be centered around metal and all that happy crap, but I've been wanting to make this thread for a while now. How much did Nu-Metal influence you getting into metal? I don't know about you people, but I have to admit that Nu-Metal was pretty much my gateway into the heavier music. I grew up listening to Oldies for I don't even remember how long, but when I first heard Linkin Park's "One Step Closer"... well, THAT was heavy to me back then! I hadn't heard anything like it with such a distorted sound on the guitars and stuff. So I looked into Nu-Metal artists, as well as hard rock artists, and those served as my path into metal, though one of the first metal bands I got into was Sonata Arctica, I gradually moved into heavier and heavier tunes.
So yeah, discuss Nu-Metal and hard rock you like, as well as what you would like to see happen in the genre.
Edit: And feel free to lash out at me for making this thread. I don't mind. I was just curious to know how many people were in the same boat as me.
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Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:18 am
The same could be said for me, my step-brother was pretty big on nu-metal, and I heard some stuff by Slipknot a few years ago and I liked it. They pretty much walked me into metal, but Judas Priest sealed the deal when I got their remastered version of Screaming for Vengeance last year. I've only recently gotten really into metal, but I owe Slipknot a little credit for introducing me to the genre.
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Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 5:23 pm
Yeah, I think that's true for mostly everyone....some just don't want to admit it.
I went from Linkin Park>System of a Down>Korn>Guns N Roses>Disturbed>and from that I got into some real metal, not nu-metal.
But I still listen to SOAD and Korn, doesn't matter if they're nu-metal...I just like the sound. 3nodding
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Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 10:22 pm
Oh, I agree! I still listen to a fair deal of Nu-Metal, myself. I LOVE Disturbed. And I still have a soft spot for Mudvayne (yes, I like Mudvayne, though I know a lot of people here hate them, I don't give a flying ********!) as well as some Linkin Park. I guess the other reason I like Nu-Metal so much was because that was my first concert experience. I went to the Family Values Tour 2001, and saw Deadsy, Static-X, Linkin Park, Staind, and Stone Temple Pilots. So that got me into heavier music; mostly Static-X for that concert, since they were the heaviest (STP was having an off night.). So yeah, I'm glad I'm not the only one willing to admit it.
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Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:28 pm
Ah, my pre-metal days. Okay, here is my intro into metal. It's a tad off topic, but oh well, it's still a fun story.
So it was the end of my freshmen year in highschool, I was a depressed stereotypical loner outcast. I played the trumpet, listened to a fair number of classical works, Simon and Jarfunkle, Judi Collins, Bob Dylan, a good number of blues and jazz. But, in the final months of the year I get into a relationship with a girl who is heavy into the screamo/hardcore scene. Now to me, this is heavy s**t. Suddenly I find myself listening to Thursday, Taking Back Sunday, Sunny Day Realistate, Tool, Rob Zombie. Now, the later two start making me want to get into metal, so I pick up the ever awesome Atreyu "The Curse" cd. Now I am on my 34th listen of the CD in two days, sitting at the local library where I meet my two current best friends. They start running off metal bands left and right.
Suddenly instead of Atreyu I start listening to Nightwish (which was also the first concert I went to), a week later I'm at the local music shop picking up my first real metal CDs. What did this week give me? Neurosis - Times of Grace Emperor - In the Nightside Eclipse Immortal - Sons of Northern Darkness Dismember - Where Iron Crosses Grow
In a week I jumped from Atreyu, to Emperor. Since then I have never looked back.
Relating to Nu Metal: For the most part I disliked most of the genre right from the bat. Korn, Linkin Park, these were bands I never really appreciated. In the months that I was in my inbetween stage of Classical to Metal (that whole story took place over about 2-3 months max) I was mostly listening to hard rock or hardcore influenced works. I listened to a little Ill Nino and Papa Roach, but even that was kinda mediocre at best, one song that I liked to play over and over again but I could never sit through a whole album.
Since then my friend has tried to subject me to random Nu Metal bands he comes across that he deems amazing, and when I tell him I don't like them he calls me an enlistist p***k because I only listen to "Tr00 Metal." rolleyes But it's still funny. The latest band he tried on me was an early Incubus cd, which while having an odd and unique sound didn't seem to go anywhere original with it so fell flat and seemed lifeless and bad to me.
For the most part I just don't like the random mixing of genres and the sounds it can create, also the standard of musicianship is usually lower in most rock/nu metal which is something that I appreciate as a musician for the past eight years. Listening to simple chord patterns that I taught myself in the first two weeks of picking up the bass for a while album is not something I like to listen to. Because of this if you looked at my collection most of what you would find would be other genres besides for rock, while the rock I do have is very heavy on the blues/jazz influence. Jam bands FTW!
By the way, as a mod I will allow the thread. But all Nu Metal centered topics must be discussed here. I'll close/delete threads about Nu Metal bands that are not in this thread.
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 12:31 am
Thanks about allowing the thread. I was worried that this would be off-topic from the whole point of the guild, but I also assumed that the topic would come up eventually, so I figured I should get it out of the way.
I understand where you're coming from with disliking the genre. I found most of it to be overly angsty, myself, though at that time I was some brooding loner boy who hated everything because of a craptactular father. So that sort of stuff really got to me because of my self-loathing and other fun things. I'm glad I've changed, though.
So yeah... I'm trying to think of anything else Nu-Metal related I can talk about besides the typical crap. Any ideas?
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 12:39 am
Lord Darc Thanks about allowing the thread. I was worried that this would be off-topic from the whole point of the guild, but I also assumed that the topic would come up eventually, so I figured I should get it out of the way. I understand where you're coming from with disliking the genre. I found most of it to be overly angsty, myself, though at that time I was some brooding loner boy who hated everything because of a craptactular father. So that sort of stuff really got to me because of my self-loathing and other fun things. I'm glad I've changed, though. So yeah... I'm trying to think of anything else Nu-Metal related I can talk about besides the typical crap. Any ideas? Even with the angsty undertones I only liked the occasional song. I mean it was just too much. I was looking for something to relieve how I felt, not make my sympathize and ultimately feel worse by making me dwell on the topic.
One of the things I do enjoy about Nu Metal though are some of the influences and how thickly it is layered. Bands will pull in any series of genres, from rap, funk, metal, raggae, it seems to have no end to the possibilities, and then create a band out of it. The problem is in my experience that a lot of the times this is done fairly poorly, or while holding those elements it too often falls back on the basic Verse Chorus or twelve bar blues rock song structure that despite having the elements of a cool band just make it bland.
Now if a band could take those elements and make an actual metal band out of it, that would be cool. wink
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 10:22 am
I sort of came at metal from two angles.
First, in junior high I started listening to nu-metal and grunge because I thought it was the "cool" thing and it made me feel like a rebel because everyone else was listening to Alan Jackson. I switched from listening to the classic rock station to listening to the rock/metal station, which mostly played stuff like Korn and Disturbed (which I liked at the time) but also occasionally played Metallica, Black Sabbath, Danzig, and other classic metal bands. So eventually I joined the Metallica message board (what a dump that place is) and was introduced to NWOBHM, thrash, and a little doom.
Around the same time, I was given Dream Theater's Six Degrees of Inner Turbelence for Christmas. I've listened to Jethro Tull and Kansas since I was a kid so I really liked DT. Talking to DT fans I discovered Symphony X, Pain of Salvation, Angra, Rhapsody, Blind Guardian, and most of the prog-metal and power metal I listen to now.
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 10:27 am
I wasn't really influenced by Nu-Metal. When I first listened to any form of metal music, it was around 1995-96; whenever the Mortal Kombat soundtrack came out. Yes, that was my introduction to metal; the Mortal Kombat soundtrack. I knew of a few nu-metal songs that I liked, but that was really about it. I listened to Rap music for a couple of years (certain artists, I knew what was good and what wasn't). Then, I listened to some hard rock music, and I got into metal when this guy I met in high school introduced me to Iced Earth, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, and all that good stuff.
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 5:57 pm
I started out listening to nu-metal. I went from Korn to system of a down to slipknot and then started listening to REAL metal
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 11:02 pm
I started listening to nu-metal shortly after vowing to obtain the entire Metallica discography (based on ...And Justice for All, and I was excluding St. Anger), starting with SlipKnoT and Mudvayne. I started downloading things on Limewire as well (don't use that program anymore) and through this I eventually made my way into Lacuna Coil and Nightwish. I bought a Lacuna Coil CD and started to look for songs from the bands listed there, mostly Sonata Arctica, Finntroll, Tiamat, and Moonsorrow. Got an Iron Maiden CD and a Judas Priest CD after that, and then I wandered into Gaia's Metal Forum.
So yeah, nu-metal was my gateway to metal, really, and I still like listening to those bands. I just hardly listen to them anymore.
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Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 9:45 am
I honestly dont think nu-metal influenced me into metal at all.
However, Marilyn Manson did. The only reason being is that, at the time (about 3 years ago), I was very into Marilyn Manson. While I went to pick up Mechanical Animals, I noticed a Metallica album and picked it up. The main reason being that when I was younger, my parents would listen to Metallica, I used to love Metallica, and I had no idea where my old Ride The Lightning tape was. So I picked it up, and that started my entire interest in metal, but Ride The Lightning remains to be my favorite metal album of all-time, as it was when I was 4 and headbanging to it.
That is not to say, however, that I dont listen to any nu-metal, because I am a huge Korn and Spineshank fan.
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Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 12:14 pm
i started listening to nu-metal and metal around the same time so it didnt reallyinfluence me but i know alot of ppl who it did in some ways nu-metal is ok
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Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 6:23 pm
When I was younger I listenend to like Metallica and Alice Cooper. Then as time went by I started to listen to more Grunge music. But then I found out about like Korn and all them that was kinda my breaking point for all the metal bands I listen to now.
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Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 8:49 pm
my nu-metal intro to metal was that one fateful night when i was watching MTV Icon, and Korn did a cover of Metallica's "One." i thought id check out the original, and i loved it. ever since, metallica has always been my favorite metal band. i have since graduated to the heavier s**t, but, i make sure that i listen to all of my metallica albums at least once a week.
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