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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 3:29 pm


I hope that there are some of you that can help me with my argument. My friend and I were talking, then arguing, over politics at school this morning. He is very much anti-Bush.
His main reasons were that Bush:
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had absolutely no reason for going in Iraq
and that
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we have killed millions of innocent people

To be fair, i need facts, with sources and what not, because I hate when i'm right (sometimes I just know I am) but can't back it up with facts. Cuz then everyone gets all like "you don't know that" and whatever. He was making me very angry, and i have to be able to prove him wrong as well as for him to join me as uninformed.

He (my friend) got all offended when I implied that he doesn't know politics. That's not exactly what I meant. What I really meant was that he is greatly misinformed (He thought that "Fahrenheit 9/11" was a really good documentary). But he got pretty mad and told me that just because I had a different opinion than him didn't mean that he didn't know politics. (I DID apologize for the misstatement, by the way, because I really didn't mean to be offensive).

Can anyone give me some facts supporting why Bush went into Iraq and why he makes a better president than Kerry would. Any and all supported facts are very greatly appreciated. Please!
PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 3:33 pm


You could direct him to my spiel (I love that word! Spiel spiel spiel... Sorry. sweatdrop ) in the "04 Bush Wootness" thread. The one near the end.

It doesn't have any links to any sources, but I'd like to hear someone refute it.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 3:45 pm


http://www.georgewbush.com/VideoAndAudio/ my friend gave me that....also, you can search free republic. WHen they say things, they usually have a source they link to.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 3:57 pm


I.Am
You could direct him to my spiel (I love that word! Spiel spiel spiel... Sorry. sweatdrop ) in the "04 Bush Wootness" thread. The one near the end.

It doesn't have any links to any sources, but I'd like to hear someone refute it.


Okayz! I'll try that!(i love that word too! Spiel! whee )

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 4:40 pm


okay! I got I.Am's spiel, and Lymelady, I went to the site and got some facts too.

Thank you guys!

(any more info from anyone else would be awesome!)
PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 4:44 pm


uuhhhmmmm

"Only Communists want Kerry for President, Only a Communist would debate about going to war with Iraq, Only a Communist would be so annoying... I say we do waht tehy did in Salem, take all Witches AKA Communists and hang them."

-Dave Barry-

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 5:00 pm


At first I thought it said collumnist(please excuse my spelling) and I was like, sounds like someone got a rejection letter from journalist school....
PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 11:18 am


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uuhhhmmmm

"Only Communists want Kerry for President, Only a Communist would debate about going to war with Iraq, Only a Communist would be so annoying... I say we do waht tehy did in Salem, take all Witches AKA Communists and hang them."

-Dave Barry-
Although I love Dave Barry, no one's going to take that as a valid source. xp

For those who don't know, Dave Barry is a humor(or humour) columnist.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 5:30 pm


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uuhhhmmmm

"Only Communists want Kerry for President, Only a Communist would debate about going to war with Iraq, Only a Communist would be so annoying... I say we do waht tehy did in Salem, take all Witches AKA Communists and hang them."

-Dave Barry-
Although I love Dave Barry, no one's going to take that as a valid source. xp

For those who don't know, Dave Barry is a humor(or humour) columnist.
and also, I am a witch so I don't particularly like the comment...
PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 6:03 pm


No offense to anyone but... stare Kerry's an airhead... he needs to set his issues straight... xd


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 8:20 am


In the interest of fairness:

http://www.whatareyouvotingfor.com/cover.html

Okay, so it's pretty hard anti-Bush sentiment, but I'll applaud you if you can debate this one.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 9:22 am


Ooh, the applause of Veled... eek I'll have to try my hardest!

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 9:29 am


First actual point: Bush's connections to terrorist-related countries.

First of all, they use a bunch of things having to do with Bush's relatives, in the far and distant past.

It basically claims that Bush Sr. is at fault for training Osama. Yeah, well we thought we were protecting them at that time: Letting them protect themselves against the Russians. It was hardly Bush Sr.'s fault that they turned on the hand that fed them.

The stuff about his college and national guard carrier are in the past as well; Far in the past. I would consider them to be things that he grew up from. The money from Osama's brother was back before 9/11, and was so long ago that how do we know Osama was a terrorist back then? It spoke of Bush Sr. training them, so how do you know that he didn't feel a sense of thankfulness at that time?

Note: At this time, he has yet to make an argument based on his skills as either Governor of my grand state, or as President of this wonderful country. Only acusations based on his past.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 9:45 am


The second page of 'points' is just making fun of the way he talks, and saying that he worked together with his brother to get the election. A bunch of nonsense, and typical Democrat response. stare

The way he talks is the way he talks. There's nothing good about it, there's nothing bad about it. You can make fun of him all you want, but it's no reason to not elect him. I could say that Bill Clinton's always doing that thing with his hand and thumb. That's just weird. But that's no reason to dislike him (There are other reasons).

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 9:51 am


Oh my God! Those ballets look sooo hard to understand! The little arrow that points to the place you are supposed to poke out? My goodness. And the whole purge thing is exagerated, and the source is biased.

The fact is, they recounted and recounted, and Bush still won.
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