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Lovable Soul

PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 11:44 pm


Hello biggrin I need some Christian help. I was wondering what you thought about Drinking. If it is a sin or not. Diff between just drinking and being drunk. I am fully against it and when Im around people that drink I go nuts! Even though they dont get drunk. They know when to stop.
My boyfriend and I had a really big agurement today and it hurt my feels where to the point I cant stand myself because I acted Crazy. I was rise not to take a slip of nothing Alcohol nor being around people that do that short of thing. My boyfriend told me being drunk is a sin, but If you just drink and stop. Not to the point where your drunk its not a sin. Jesus was drinking wine. But he didnt get drunk. He says its okay, its all about takeing control of yourself. Knowing when its to far.

We went to Apple Bees and he got a drink. He tell me only reason he drinks is it adds little bit of tastes. Nothing more. Like trying somthing new but never gets drunk. Is this wrong? I would really be graceful of your thoughts. Someone who knows bible very well. Just any advice will do!

Thank you so much for the help!! oxox
Lovable Soul
PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:20 am


I do not believe it is wrong. As you mentioned in your post, wine was the common drink during the time that Jesus lived. As long as one is not getting drunk, it is not against the Bible.

Adjective
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LadyBugLes

PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 1:42 pm


Lovable Soul
Hello biggrin I need some Christian help. I was wondering what you thought about Drinking. If it is a sin or not. Diff between just drinking and being drunk. I am fully against it and when Im around people that drink I go nuts! Even though they dont get drunk. They know when to stop.
My boyfriend and I had a really big agurement today and it hurt my feels where to the point I cant stand myself because I acted Crazy. I was rise not to take a slip of nothing Alcohol nor being around people that do that short of thing. My boyfriend told me being drunk is a sin, but If you just drink and stop. Not to the point where your drunk its not a sin. Jesus was drinking wine. But he didnt get drunk. He says its okay, its all about takeing control of yourself. Knowing when its to far.

We went to Apple Bees and he got a drink. He tell me only reason he drinks is it adds little bit of tastes. Nothing more. Like trying somthing new but never gets drunk. Is this wrong? I would really be graceful of your thoughts. Someone who knows bible very well. Just any advice will do!

Thank you so much for the help!! oxox
Lovable Soul



This is going to sound kind of rude, but it's time you heard it from someone.

Jesus drank. According to the pharisees, he drank somewhat excessively... mostly because neither he nor his disciples engaged in fasting.

Your boyfriend is not doing anything wrong. I personally do not think there is anything wrong with occasionally getting drunk as long as one doesn't do it in public or habitually.

However, there is a flip side to this. You are obviously either of age or will be soon. You are not a high school student anymore, I take it? It does not matter at this point (socially) whether you drink or not. You do not have to drink. You can make yourself quite useful as a designated driver or stay away from alcohol altogether and no one is going to care. Why? Grown people don't really give a rip whether you drink with them or not. If you don't, that's more booze for them. If you do, that's cool too!

The only thing I would caution you against is making this an issue with your friends, or especially your boyfriend. It's okay to drink, and it's okay not to, but being rude, or a jerk, or insistant the people see everything your way is going to run people off. Besides that, biblically? Honestly, you don't have much of a case. The unfermented grape juice story is teetotaler fantasy and completed unsubstatiated in history. How can I say this and be so sure? I have a bachelor's degree in history. The alcohol content in most beverages was essential to keeping stuff safe to drink. Water was nasty in a lot of areas and came with little gifts (Read: illness) as well so it was a lot safer to drink weak wine or beer on a daily basis. This means that folks were having a "n**" first thing in the morning, but they were probably acclimated to it, so it wouldn't have made much of a difference.

I hope this helped. If it made you mad, I'm a little sorry, but not much. Like I said, it's about time you heard it from someone.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 7:04 pm


In the Bible The wine hat they drank is like they grape juice we drink not real alcohal. Also the Bible says that strong wine corruptith the soul al lthrought Proverbs take a look for yourself.

Mustard_BeffJerky


LadyBugLes

PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 1:39 pm


Ska_Pickitup
In the Bible The wine hat they drank is like they grape juice we drink not real alcohal. Also the Bible says that strong wine corruptith the soul al lthrought Proverbs take a look for yourself.


I'm not the one making the claim, why should I have to look it up?

Also, believe me, that was real wine dearest. Where do you think they got a refridgerator to put it in to keep it from fermenting????
PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 2:00 pm


sistergoldenhair
Ska_Pickitup
In the Bible The wine hat they drank is like they grape juice we drink not real alcohal. Also the Bible says that strong wine corruptith the soul al lthrought Proverbs take a look for yourself.


I'm not the one making the claim, why should I have to look it up?

Also, believe me, that was real wine dearest. Where do you think they got a refridgerator to put it in to keep it from fermenting????


Well we are dealing with God here, He can turn water into wine, so I'm pretty shure he can make juice stay fresh.

Mustard_BeffJerky


LadyBugLes

PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:25 am


Ska_Pickitup
sistergoldenhair
Ska_Pickitup
In the Bible The wine hat they drank is like they grape juice we drink not real alcohal. Also the Bible says that strong wine corruptith the soul al lthrought Proverbs take a look for yourself.


I'm not the one making the claim, why should I have to look it up?

Also, believe me, that was real wine dearest. Where do you think they got a refridgerator to put it in to keep it from fermenting????


Well we are dealing with God here, He can turn water into wine, so I'm pretty shure he can make juice stay fresh.


Why would he want to? For the ENTIRE middle east or just his own family, I mean really....
PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:12 pm


Plus it wasn't until Welch's came along that they could make grape juice that wouldn't ferment.

Lobsel Vith


chessiejo
Crew

PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 2:23 pm


from what i can find, the bible prohibits excess, icluding drunkenness.

which makes sense, since people harm themselves and others while drunk.

but i never see an outright prohibition against drinking.

the psalmist praises God for wine which "gladdeneth the heart of man"

and nobody can convince me that the Last Supper was held using grape juice!
PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 2:42 am


Technically speaking, it was blood. Symbolic blood, mind you.

Spider Jerusalem PHD

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