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 Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 9:59 am
In an attempt to enrich myself with other cultures I've taken an interest in aquiring information on the Catholic religion. I was raised as a Christian myself but as most people probably know, the Catholic and Protisent (sp?) beliefs and practices vary quite a bit.
So today I watched the news on the new Pope (Live even! surprised ) and well, congratulations Cardinal Ratzinger (Pope Benedictine XVI, now I suppose.) and to all the catholics in the guild.
And out of curiousity, what's the significance of the name that he chose?
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 10:31 am
Well, Pope Benedict XV(? bad with roman numerals) was pope right before WWI I think and worked very hard for peace. Which....didn't happen....as history tells us...but still. This is the page I found on Saint Benedict but I don't know too much about him. We didn't focus on him at any point in school.
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 10:42 am
That makes more sense. They said something about Pope Benedict XV (You got the Roman Numerals right. whee ) being a Pope of Peace or something like that. I was slightly confused there.
Was Cardinal Ratzinger expected to become Pope, or was it a suprise that he was elected?
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 10:51 am
It was a surpise because he was expected to be. Lol, I mean, you always figure, it's not gonna be what you expect. But he went in looking like he'd be Pope so a bunch of people decided that sealed his doom.
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 11:23 am
xd Gotcha. They were talking about him being really close to Pope John Paul II so it seemed as though it would be premeditated that he'd be chosen.
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 1:14 pm
not really. He's....I think he's a transitional. He's 78, and his doctrine is very close to the former pope's...it just smacks of, "Waiting to pull ourselves together and get a new guy" to me.
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 5:50 pm
lymelady not really. He's....I think he's a transitional. He's 78, and his doctrine is very close to the former pope's...it just smacks of, "Waiting to pull ourselves together and get a new guy" to me.
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 8:17 pm
toxic_lollipop lymelady not really. He's....I think he's a transitional. He's 78, and his doctrine is very close to the former pope's...it just smacks of, "Waiting to pull ourselves together and get a new guy" to me. they were trying to dicern what God wanted so I supose they think that God would like Benedict XVI to be pope, and to be pope today!
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 9:07 pm
My aunt saw on CNN that when the former Pope died, they went into the room where he died and hit him in the head with a silver mallet/hammer sort of thing. Did they really do that? It sounds kinda...weird. But they said it was a Catholic tradition.
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Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 12:55 am
tasha_casselbury My aunt saw on CNN that when the former Pope died, they went into the room where he died and hit him in the head with a silver mallet/hammer sort of thing. Did they really do that? It sounds kinda...weird. But they said it was a Catholic tradition. Wee! whee Yes, that's one of the most fun parts of acting out the papal election in CCD every year. Second only to burning the ballots, of course. Anyways, yes, that is a tradition. It is part of the whole ritualistic process that follows the death of a Pope. Carmalenga, a fancy name for the papal chamberlain (I think it's chamberlain), taps the dead Pope on the head three times, calling out his birth name. The obvious reason is to make sure that the Pope is actually dead. I'm not certain why it is a silver hammer, but perhaps it's because silver is associated with holiness? As for why they picked Ratzinger... I get the feeling Kate's right. At 78 they can't be expecting him to live much longer. However, it's bad for the Church to be left without a leader for very long, so they are probably just trying to buy more time because they aren't sure about who God wants to be the next Pope.
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Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 5:56 am
I.Am tasha_casselbury My aunt saw on CNN that when the former Pope died, they went into the room where he died and hit him in the head with a silver mallet/hammer sort of thing. Did they really do that? It sounds kinda...weird. But they said it was a Catholic tradition. Wee! whee Yes, that's one of the most fun parts of acting out the papal election in CCD every year. Second only to burning the ballots, of course. Anyways, yes, that is a tradition. It is part of the whole ritualistic process that follows the death of a Pope. Carmalenga, a fancy name for the papal chamberlain (I think it's chamberlain), taps the dead Pope on the head three times, calling out his birth name. The obvious reason is to make sure that the Pope is actually dead. I'm not certain why it is a silver hammer, but perhaps it's because silver is associated with holiness? As for why they picked Ratzinger... I get the feeling Kate's right. At 78 they can't be expecting him to live much longer. However, it's bad for the Church to be left without a leader for very long, so they are probably just trying to buy more time because they aren't sure about who God wants to be the next Pope. Actually... They stopped that officially sweatdrop The carmelengo just called out his name three time over a set period of time, and if he didn't respond, they officialy deemed they needed a new pope.
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Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 6:13 am
I.Am As for why they picked Ratzinger... I get the feeling Kate's right. At 78 they can't be expecting him to live much longer. However, it's bad for the Church to be left without a leader for very long, so they are probably just trying to buy more time because they aren't sure about who God wants to be the next Pope.
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Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 8:13 am
toxic_lollipop I.Am As for why they picked Ratzinger... I get the feeling Kate's right. At 78 they can't be expecting him to live much longer. However, it's bad for the Church to be left without a leader for very long, so they are probably just trying to buy more time because they aren't sure about who God wants to be the next Pope. right now the cardinals' views, I think. Probably much prayer, asking for guidance. They pick the person who they feel is most likely to lead the Church in the way that follows Jesus.
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Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 8:44 pm
lymelady toxic_lollipop I.Am As for why they picked Ratzinger... I get the feeling Kate's right. At 78 they can't be expecting him to live much longer. However, it's bad for the Church to be left without a leader for very long, so they are probably just trying to buy more time because they aren't sure about who God wants to be the next Pope. right now the cardinals' views, I think. Probably much prayer, asking for guidance. They pick the person who they feel is most likely to lead the Church in the way that follows Jesus. Yeah, that's it. It's basically how you decide whether anything is what God wants; You go with who you feel is best for leading the Church. They even say, before they put their ballot in the chalice, "This is the person who, before God, I believe should be the next Pope." Essentially. I don't remember the wording.
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Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 9:05 pm
lymelady toxic_lollipop I.Am As for why they picked Ratzinger... I get the feeling Kate's right. At 78 they can't be expecting him to live much longer. However, it's bad for the Church to be left without a leader for very long, so they are probably just trying to buy more time because they aren't sure about who God wants to be the next Pope. right now the cardinals' views, I think. Probably much prayer, asking for guidance. They pick the person who they feel is most likely to lead the Church in the way that follows Jesus. Follows Jesus by worshipping Mary and worshipping the communion crackers. Yup. Catholicism is the Scientology of Christianity in my oppinion. They're nuts. Better then Kabalah I guess, but will praying to Mary get you into heaven? Jesus never said "pay money and I'll let you out of purgatory", he said that the only way to heaven and to God was by Him (Jesus) not by money or sacrifice. Jesus already paid that full sacrifice for us.
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