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ImNotaFashionStatment

PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:38 am


I'm sure that every one has heard this. It is refering that you can get over trauma in time. I know very little about psychology, which is the reason I joined this guild, so I was wondering what every ones opinion on this is?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 10:08 am


Well, I have somewhat limited knowledge of psychology, though I've taken three college courses in it, I havne't had any direct study in trauma. As with most things, different theorists would come up with different takes on this issue. Freudian psychology, for example, would say you never ever get over past traumas from very early childhood (age 0-5) and they influence all of your behavior in adulthood. The whole principle of fixations in Freudian theory involves some sort of trauma in the developmental stages they couldn't deal with.

Someone who knows more about abnormal psych and clinical psych could probably tell you more. 3nodding

Starlock


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 12:31 pm


Time, while a nessecary requirement for any kind of change such as healing wounds, does not nessecarily always heal wounds over time. I would say it would depend on the enviroment. Of course therapy will "
"heal wounds" with a higher probablilty.

On a side note, one of the early criticisms of Freud was that his therapy was no more effective then not giving therapy over the same period of time.
PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 11:07 pm


Starlock
(age 0-5)


I thought it was 0-6, wasn't it?

Lebbon


Civet Moon

PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 6:07 am


Freud also used very limited methods of study. His evaluations and theories were based mainly on case studies, meaning he studied and worked with people on a an individual basis, rather than using any survey methods or studies that could be reproduced by other professionals.

I generally agree with what Dr. Funk has said on this matter. Often, people need time to "get over it," and life will continue its course. But there are plenty of instances in which time alone will not do the job.
PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 9:25 am


(laughs) It's just fine to disagree with Freudian theory. I was just using it as an example. Teaching Freud is the equivalent of teaching that the world is flat. whee And Lebbon, I rechecked my psych textbook and it is indeed to age five. After that the child enters the latent period.

Starlock


Love SCUBA Steve

PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2005 4:18 pm


Well, time may heal most wounds, but not all. There are certain disorders, that won't be healed with time, because you have them your whole life.
PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2005 5:49 pm


I disagree. After all, your brain develops it's wiring mainly in childhood. So then you learn bad things and these *do* affect future habits/thinking. Also, biological factors aren't likely to go away suddenly.

Caffienated


Majda

PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 5:26 pm


Time cannot heal all wounds, especially in terms of abuse, neglect and assault of younger children. Many times, though the incident itself may have been forgotten or accepted, I think that the influence of the actions or situation stay permanent on the psyche.

Especially with children, the 'imprinting' proccess is incredibly important, in order for ones to develop a positive 'love-map' which he or she will use to judge one's potential for a mate, based on their own experiences of touch and emotional love. If such positive actions are 'imprinted' and then used again by the individual sub-consciously, then who is to say that the negative actions are not as well.

In my own personal studies on Corporal Punishment and the development of young children, adolescents and future parents, it seems that unless these past 'imprinted' techniques (Spanking) are over-written by new learning (such as Parenting Courses) then the actions are doomed to repeat.

To compare the two, if or person is imprinted with a positive event, such as praise or kindness, this is what they will base their future outlook on. However if a child is faced with trauma or other dangers, than they will act upon the future nervously, without trust and with fear.
PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2005 7:08 pm


Some things will lose importance with time.
However, using time as an excuse to make someone outwardly bite the bullet and suffer within does not help the situation. To an outsider, it might appear that another's issues heal with time.
I have found that trauma can be forgotten for a long time, and something will trigger the painful memory. Also, judgement can be altered by what is learned from the situation.

Tacklebox Nebula


XxMusikJunkiexX

PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:02 pm


ImNotaFashionStatment
I'm sure that every one has heard this. It is refering that you can get over trauma in time. I know very little about psychology, which is the reason I joined this guild, so I was wondering what every ones opinion on this is?


disregarding the technical aspect, I don't agree with that statement.

Time helps us gain perspective and clarity on whatever the "wound" is, but personally I don't think "closure" really exists.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 8:49 pm


I am having a bit of a struggle with this one, as of late. My mom is a schoolteacher in a rural community where welfare, DSS (the Department of Social Services), and abuse of all kinds are regulars in most childrens' daily lives. I've seen quite of these kids rise above, but only when they have had positive encouragement from someone somewhere along the line. This isn't always the recipe for success though, and many times the traumas that kids go through when they're young end up being repeated in their own lives later on.

I do, however, believe that when you are old enough to understand what's happened to you, you can make conscious decisions to move away from it. Not necessarily that you can make yourself better or "just get over it", but you can do a lot for yourself that can help ease the pain. And different people deal with traua different ways. Some don't think about it and just move on, others have to deal with it head-on and they don't move much until they're ready, which is okay. Time plays a factor in healing traumas, but by itself is insufficient.

Odd thought: I remember my grandfather saying once "Time wounds all heals." I'm not sure I really grasp the idea behind that. Does anyone have any thoughts on that?

Ryes__Catcher


Majda

PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 7:13 am


Ryes__Catcher
Odd thought: I remember my grandfather saying once "Time wounds all heals." I'm not sure I really grasp the idea behind that. Does anyone have any thoughts on that?


That actually makes a lot of sense to me. Although in many scenarios, time and pateince are aspects of the healing process, if we flip the equation around, time can actually be a destructive entitiy.

My examples do go back into my argument regarding corporal punishement and neglect. Although children can step away from abusive behaviours and flourish, the imprintation has still occured, and time (meaning age) can later cause the imprintations to surface again, say when the person gets married (domestic abuse) or has children. though they may have decided to be non-violent as a teen or young adult, negative imprinting can re-surface during other aspects of life. Menaing that time (aging) has re-opened the individual to their past imprintations.

As well, the longer you go away from something, for me at least, the more you think about it. Especially a traumatic event, because it gives you more time to think about it, reflect and go over the 'what-if's'. With this said, more wounds could be opened up and a personals development could suffer because they are 'living in the past'.

I also came accors the idea of Alzeheimers, My Grandfather was in forced-labour camps in World War two, and while he was 'living' (not suffering) he was able to forget and put it off, but as he got older and his body and mind degenerated, he begun to have relapses from his past, to the point where he would try to escape or break out of whatever building he was in, because he thought he was in a lbour camp again...
PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 8:56 pm


Well, time is a factor in the healing process, but depending on the severity of the problem, it won't heal completely by itself. Talk or group therapy can help a persons well being, but depending on when the trauma occured and the severity of it, it can even effect processes of the brain. At that point, prescription drugs may need to be implemented.

Awkward_Chick


Calunio

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:18 am


I like what Majda said, and I don't think time heal any wounds.

And I don't think this expression is used mostly for actual trauma cases. A girl broke up with her boyfriend and she thinks she'll never get over it. In this case... well, just give it time.

But if we're talking about an actual trauma, childhood or not, I wouldn't trust time so much. When I hear "time heal wounds" I imagine someone sitting on a chair and waiting for his wounds to be healed.

If people can think of traumatic events with more clarity in adulthood, it's not really just a matter of time, it's a matter of what they have learned and experienced through that time.

In the case of traumas, you NEED time to expect changes. If you get a patience with trauma, you may have good techniques of internvention, but you cannot expect quick results.
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