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Storm Slayer

PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 10:23 pm


Ok, I thought that I would create a thread for people who have questions about the Japanese language. I am trying to study it and have run into a few problems myself. I hope that people who have answers will help those with questions.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 5:04 am


I've been workign on and off with the language for the last 6 years or so and I actually got to go to Japan in the summer of 04 so I might be able to help ^_^

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Storm Slayer

PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:03 am


Great, thank-you very much. Any help would be appreciated. I've come up with a question:

I've noticed that there are no hiragana or katakana for alone constanants (or at least I haven't been able to find any). Because of this, I am not sure how you would wright out words like "Ittekimasu." I've noticed that the hiragana for this is "いってきます", and I can write it using a keyboard, but I am unsure about the general rule for double constanants other than n (ん).
PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 4:11 pm


Well from my experience theres always a way around this usually in a case like this 'itte' would have one character representing it and another representing te, if there's more consenants then this there will usually be a slight change to accomidate. kind of like when they right or say bus it becomes busu.
Unlike english their words acomidate their rules instead of vice versa

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Storm Slayer

PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:08 pm


Thank-you, that helps alot. And what you said about english is true (which is why it isn't a very good language). Thanks, Levion.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:12 pm


Storm Slayer
Thank-you, that helps alot. And what you said about english is true (which is why it isn't a very good language). Thanks, Levion.

Well the 'english' spoken by americans actually isn't english, thus why it doesn't actually follow it's own rules.

See english existed in what was know as britain for a long time then was influenced when they started pushing into other countries. Then there were the french and norma raid on the islands and eventual take overs that led to the banning of certain language being spoken which forced the people on the islands to have to change how they sspoke about and viewed cartain things. Finally it was influenced by the rise of the'nobleman's language' latin, which was the only written language in europe for many years and as such english became less important o those of rank and it bacme a common language that would later rise back to power.

End the end we go from callin an animal a cow and the food it becomes the same to calling it the french word for dead cows, beef. That's what most of the enbglish language is built on is things like this. Here's another little tift for you, sport is actually a french word, english didn't have a word that summed up all the actions we call sports, it was a very simple language that didn't complicate anything. That made me laugh when I took french in High School. ^_^

And your welcome lol. I love helping people with stuff liek this ^_^

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konauchi

PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 2:31 pm


i wanna learn how to speak japanese soooo baaaaad gonk ,anyways ,do you know how to speak japanese?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 3:06 am


konauchi
i wanna learn how to speak japanese soooo baaaaad gonk ,anyways ,do you know how to speak japanese?
I know HOW to I just don't do it well and I'm not even close to fluent yet but it's not a very hard language to learn.

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~Pancake_Las~
Captain

PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 9:50 pm


You people make me sad. I have no idea what your talking about. Quit using big words. gonk

xp JK

How long did it take you guys to learn the basics of Japanese?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:44 pm


Levion
Here's another little tift for you, sport is actually a french word, english didn't have a word that summed up all the actions we call sports, it was a very simple language that didn't complicate anything. That made me laugh when I took french in High School. ^_^

Yeah, I am taking French in school as well and I am suprised at how simple it is. Well, their word for owl is also the same as our word "cool" (I mean the connotation, not "cold"). But yeah, and there are so many words that are close to American English. (Although my French teacher once told the students of a situation in which she was in France and accidentally said "mushrooms" instead of "champions."). I do agree with you that French and Japanese are pretty straightfoward. Sometimes suprisingly so.

I have another question:
Are there any specific rules for when to use Kanji and Hiragana and Katakana? Or do you just learn to spell each word with the appropriate characters? I know that Katakana is for foreign sounds and foreign names, but what else is it used for? In Japanese writing, I've seen alot of Katakana characters.

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Storm Slayer

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:52 pm


konauchi
i wanna learn how to speak japanese soooo baaaaad gonk

A few free lessons
A few free lessons and frequently updated tips
A child's website for the Japanese Language
Typing in Japanese
This is where I started. Not sure if it will help or not.
konauchi
anyways ,do you know how to speak japanese?

I don't know it. I am still learning. sweatdrop
PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 6:01 am


about an hour and six pages lol ^_^

Yeah the languages are very close in the way they terms things. I mean figure this the word we use all the time for anything related to japanese animation, mange, anything like that, ANIME is originally french.

Yes there are specific rules but I don't know them all. I do know that at Yamada High School I was told that most basics are written in hiragana but I didn't get an exact rule on anything.

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Storm Slayer

PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 3:05 pm


Mk, I have another question. I was just wondering about the pronounciation of double constanents. I understand that it's supposed to be a whole nother syllable, but I have heard it pronounced different ways. Can it be pronounced differently in songs? For example, in one sone, "utsutta" is pronounced "u-tsu-u-ta" which I would think would be spelled "utsuuta." Maybe I just can't tell the difference between the two sounds.
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