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Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 7:51 pm
The DSM is looked upon as both a great resource and a plague. over diagnosis is a constant concern and people often apply things and make connections loosely based on what is said in DSM. What do you think about the DSM, diagnosis in general, etc.
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 6:19 am
The DSM is a great tool. For a long time I wanted a copy of it for myself, but it is expensive and I think it is better that I avoid playing around with it as a diagnostic tool as a non-professional save for the more common disorders that I can recognize without the manual anyway.
One thing my psych professors braught up was that the DSM is a reflection of cultural norms. What is considered psychotic and neurotic changes over time depending on culture, and in that, there lies a weakness. For example, homosexuality was classified as a psychological disorder at one time, and so would be many forms of religious mystical experience.
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Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 2:59 pm
Starlock The DSM is a great tool. For a long time I wanted a copy of it for myself, but it is expensive and I think it is better that I avoid playing around with it as a diagnostic tool as a non-professional save for the more common disorders that I can recognize without the manual anyway. One thing my psych professors braught up was that the DSM is a reflection of cultural norms. What is considered psychotic and neurotic changes over time depending on culture, and in that, there lies a weakness. For example, homosexuality was classified as a psychological disorder at one time, and so would be many forms of religious mystical experience. noted i too have seen the DSM with the passage on homosexuality as a psychological disorder. the DSM is great but it should not be used to over diagnosis people. there is a limit to it and self-fullfiling profecy can be quite powerful when looking at disorders
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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 7:59 am
Yup. That's why when I do my own unprofessional diagnoses, I try to come up with examples that would disprove my conjectures. Often I can, then things are weighed out to determine if the examples for the disorder outweigh the examples against it.
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 3:34 pm
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:39 pm
DSM is the manual that the American Psychological Associartion uses to define/diagnose/describe mental illnesses. ...I actually found a copy of the DSMIV in my basement. How cool is that? whee
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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 4:12 am
Over the millenia people always needed a label to seek a new sense of self. They always wanted to say "I'm something". I'm hurt, I am that, I am this.
Diagnosis is a tool that's used to generalize a person so a treatment based on other peoples experiences can be given. I personally believe that not every therapy will work for everyone. And that every diagnostic tool looking at b to find a will be always inacurate by it's sole base.
They look at the symptomps ok
I hear voices in my head. (My thoughts) I sometimes see unreal things. ( I sometimes do imagine)
This means I'm schizophrenic.
I've (for joke) given those sentences to some psychiatrists in my region and almost every single one of them said I was a schizophrenic:3 (in case you haven't noticed those activities (thoughts and mental imagery) are normal)
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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 6:54 am
rofl That's hillarious, Musubi. However, if they eventually catch onto the fact that you're being a smart a** with them, they might diagnose you as something else. Heh.
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:52 am
Naaah most of the psychiatrists don't value their work so much that some of them don't even know what the word "agorophobia" means.
Or "Cognitive behavioral therapy"
On a side note:
Some people in the "alternative proffesions" aren't good either. I was once at a "hypnotist" who read a freakin' script. (Scripts are fully hypnosis sessions that are written on paper some hypnotists use them because they don't know squat about hypnosis and just hope that "If I read this magic script that person will go in to trance!"
And it's funny a hypnotist earns about 200$ an hour. And even those that read only scripts earn such an amount of money.
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 12:33 pm
The major downside to the DSM is that it's very mathematical. If you have, say, seven symptoms, then you have the disorder. If you have six symptoms, you don't. The DSM is also, as someone else mentioned, extremely culturally bound--it's really only relevant to those who are members of the majority culture, and possibly not so relevant to those outside of it.
The DSM is like the Pirate Code--it's more what you'd call "guidelines" than actual rules. Or, at least, it should be. *grin*
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:30 pm
Royallegacy Starlock The DSM is a great tool. For a long time I wanted a copy of it for myself, but it is expensive and I think it is better that I avoid playing around with it as a diagnostic tool as a non-professional save for the more common disorders that I can recognize without the manual anyway. One thing my psych professors braught up was that the DSM is a reflection of cultural norms. What is considered psychotic and neurotic changes over time depending on culture, and in that, there lies a weakness. For example, homosexuality was classified as a psychological disorder at one time, and so would be many forms of religious mystical experience. noted i too have seen the DSM with the passage on homosexuality as a psychological disorder. the DSM is great but it should not be used to over diagnosis people. there is a limit to it and self-fullfiling profecy can be quite powerful when looking at disorders She lay down on the grass, Looking up at the sky, thinking, it’s all she can do. If she disappeared she would not be missed. She will be gone just like everyone else.
Getting up from the grass, she walks on the sand, looking outward towards the sea. She walks into the water high up above her knees.
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I think that the DSM is useful, but might be outdated. I don't have it, but I wouldn't mind getting it. I think that from the diagnoses that I've seen from the book, it is fairly helpful. Perhaps some are a little over-exaggerated, such as Somatization Disorder [person needs to have these symptoms], but they just want to diagnose correctly, so it seems reasonable.
As for your comment above, homosexuality used to be considered by many as a sexual disorder. Now it is not so much, as ***** and a few other disorders, because it has become more accepted as a whole. So perhaps diagnosing homosexuality as a sexual disorder, is no longer valid, which proved that is is outdated, but it depends on which volume of the DSM you're referring to. I think the DSM-IV should be updated on that, but perhaps not.
~~~♥~~~♥ Narc Lit ♥~~~♥~~~ The waves softly hit her legs. She looks at the sunset and its yellow-red hues she walks into the sea, farther and farther, opening her arms towards the wave. The water is high up to her hips. The wave comes towards her. She looks at the wave with her arms stretched out; the water starts to rage, the wave hits her body hard. Then the water calms down. The water recedes, then darkness falls, and all goes dark. The sun goes down and the day is done.
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Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:30 pm
Musubi P. Naaah most of the psychiatrists don't value their work so much that some of them don't even know what the word "agorophobia" means. lol 3nodding I agree!
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:13 pm
I believe the DSM is both a blessing and a curse.
Not everyone follows the symptoms or case files in 1-2-3 order, nor do the conditions said in the book always apply. However, it's nice to have some help better than none.
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