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Ebania

Sarcastic Prophet

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:43 pm


So I'm pissed.

Why?

Because I'm sick and tired of hearing Choicers say that a fetus is nothing more than a clump of worthless cells.

And now, my internet whore, Mirriam Webster:

Main Entry: cell

4 : a small usually microscopic mass of protoplasm bounded externally by a semipermeable membrane, usually including one or more nuclei and various other organelles with their products, capable alone or interacting with other cells of performing all the fundamental functions of life, and forming the smallest structural unit of living matter capable of functioning independently

The three important words here are the bolded ones.

Main Entry: alone
1 : separated from others : ISOLATED
2 : exclusive of anyone or anything else : ONLY

As much as the child needs the mother's womb, her warmth, and her well-being, it is alone. It is its own damn self.

Main Entry: life

1 a : the quality that distinguishes a vital and functional being from a dead body

Unless it's friggin' dead, YOU ARE NOT PREGNANT. Unless it does not kick, move, grow, or evolve, YOU ARE NOT PREGNANT.

Main Entry: independent

1 : not dependent: as a (1) : not subject to control by others : SELF-GOVERNING

Unless it's the mother's brain controlling the child's legs to kick and when, IT IS ITS OWN PERSON.

So there you have it. By a Choicer's definition - yes, even their definition! - a "clump of cells" is no different from a walking, talking individual.

Ahh, the power of Mirriam Webster.

*hails*
PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 4:13 pm


Ne evidence pulbished last year and found several times over in every instant shows that the cells diffreintiate on or moments after conception, meaning the cells immidiately distinguishthemselves to what they will form in entirity as they grow. IE, it is a clump of cells, but not useless ones. But, by logic, we never stop being a clump of cells.

Tiger of the Fire


Ebania

Sarcastic Prophet

PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 4:14 pm


3nodding
PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 4:19 pm


i really have nothing to say, it just seems so evident that i really can't say much without paraphrasing someone else here.

divineseraph


Tiger of the Fire

PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 4:21 pm


divineseraph
i really have nothing to say, it just seems so evident that i really can't say much without paraphrasing someone else here.


Now you knwo how I feel xd

ANy thing I want to say has usialy already been said by some one else. And almost always in a more detailed roundabout way.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 4:53 pm


Hooray! ^ ^

A Menina Pianista


Tiger of the Fire

PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 6:37 pm


yay indeed
PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 7:05 pm


I seem to remember getting chewed out for using webster's dictionary, versus their special "medical" dictionary, that apparently invalidates common definitions and understandings.

karllikespies


Tiger of the Fire

PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 7:08 pm


Their medicle dictionay is currently out dated. There are better and more up to date ones out there now.

Also, a medical dictionary doe snot invalidate the meaning of a word. They stick to the word child as found in theri dictionary. What does a medical dictionary do? It explains a word as it applies to medicine. In medicine a child is between the ages of 2 and 12. How ever, by its very linquistik definition, is a human of any age, seeing as we all have parents, and we are the children of those parents.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 8:13 pm


Pfft, hair cells, cancerous cells, spleen cells, oocytes penetrated by spermatocytes, they're all the same. OH NOES MY BIOLOGY PROFESSORS WERE ALL ANTI-CHOICERS!!1!11

As I always say, when some of my skin flakes or hair or cheek cells spontaneously grow into a fully functioning human with different DNA, I'll not only admit they're right, but I'll scrub their toilets and lick their shoes.

*sits back and waits for unholy army of the night to spring up from hair caught in the drain*

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divineseraph

PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:29 pm


La Veuve Zin
Pfft, hair cells, cancerous cells, spleen cells, oocytes penetrated by spermatocytes, they're all the same. OH NOES MY BIOLOGY PROFESSORS WERE ALL ANTI-CHOICERS!!1!11

As I always say, when some of my skin flakes or hair or cheek cells spontaneously grow into a fully functioning human with different DNA, I'll not only admit they're right, but I'll scrub their toilets and lick their shoes.

*sits back and waits for unholy army of the night to spring up from hair caught in the drain*


yes, i hate that argument "cancer is human cells" - yes, but it will not, ever, be a complete human. "with cloning it could be" no, you're wrong.

i also hate the argument of "why should your morals trump mine"- well, why do your morals against murder apply to a nihilist, who believes that nothing exists? they should have no problem with murder. why should your morals trump theirs? you can't legislate morality, after all...
PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:30 pm


karllikespies
I seem to remember getting chewed out for using webster's dictionary, versus their special "medical" dictionary, that apparently invalidates common definitions and understandings.
where is this "medical" dictionary anyway? and what if two medical dictionaries say different things? do they just go by the one they like best, and call the other one a heretic woman hater?

divineseraph


Gwenhwyfach

PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:59 pm


divineseraph
karllikespies
I seem to remember getting chewed out for using webster's dictionary, versus their special "medical" dictionary, that apparently invalidates common definitions and understandings.
where is this "medical" dictionary anyway? and what if two medical dictionaries say different things? do they just go by the one they like best, and call the other one a heretic woman hater?
yup sounds like them 3nodding
PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:46 pm


hey are you new? i don't seem to remember you... sweatdrop

divineseraph


Gwenhwyfach

PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:59 pm


divineseraph
hey are you new? i don't seem to remember you... sweatdrop
yup.. er I'm new to the guild vetran to the opinion
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