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Jennalaia
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 1:51 pm


      Yo! So let's talk about that survey I posted in the chat a few days ago. (If you haven't taken it, it's linked here.) The data that I got was actually pretty interesting, so I wanna talk about it! All responses are 100% anonymous, so nobody is gonna know who voted for what.

      Let's go over all the points one at a time.

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      Five of six responses were for four year timeskip, and one was for a single year. However, due to the overwhelming majority I'm making the official verdict four years. This means that every current student will graduate and not be around for the next plot. I'm a little sad that we're going to say goodbye to the newer kids, but there's no reason they can't make cameos!

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      This one surprised me. Most people appear to be fine with making Swim Team a fever dream, and one person was all for eradication. The 'Other' was: "See if there is a way to keep some member from both groups to avoid getting rid of characters that people enjoy playing." If I'm going by the majority vote, then it looks like Swim Team will be a fever dream to be worked on and played another day in the future, but we can debate.

      However, Other Kids is going to require some discussion.

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      I was... not expecting this. The two Others were:

      See if there is a way to keep some member from both groups to avoid getting rid of characters that people enjoy playing.
      I DONT KNOW

      So... oof, guys, we really have to talk about this group. I'm going to keep my personal opinion out of this starting post and move on to the next bit of data.

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      I've no witty comments for this one. Next!

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      This was surprising! I'm happy some of you are interested in being crew, and I'll respect those that aren't.

      Finally, additional discussion topics! Those of you that actually did put something in had some nice ideas. Additional topics to chat about are:

      School Field trips
      Attracting new members
      Exact duties of crew members (possibly tiered duties)

      Soooooo, I'm not gonna be the first one to post my opinions because I'd rather hear from one or two of you first. Have at ye!
PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 3:58 pm


      @Field trips since that was my suggestion: They could provide like...extra exposure to the world/help solidify things in canon that we've talked about while world building?? Or just encourage that?

      Ooor an excuse to have like...plots not relating to rp charas or the school wide story! (It would be kinda ridiculous to leave that 100% up to Jen, though, so maybe rpers could brainstorm or suggest ideas or narrate field trips? It could be good practice!) Though I think it would be more like ADVENTURE.PNG!! Explore Kool Stuff. Also an excuse to have people bond outside of their friendgroups with others or, alternatively, experiment with group dynamics by mixing a bunch of characters into random travel groups.

      It would be strictly forums based of course! I think I suggested the same idea last year as well lmao. I think doing any of this is mostly dependent on how interested people are//how willing they are @this rate.




      On Other Kids&Swim Team:
      People COULD themselves decide who they want to keep, toss out permanently, or leave for next timeskip. Of course, that basically means that characters could risk isolation or end up not being played that often anyways, since our rps work with groups. And...honestly I don't really care much for the idea myself??


      I think both groups of kids should be left for next timeskip. It would give players who didn't put too much focus or want to redo them a second chance at fixing their characterization and try something different. For the people who LIKE how their chara's characterization is going so far, they could always 1x1 or write stories to 'hold that in place', and they'd have the extra time to flesh that character's plot out more.

      After all, it's not like we're getting rid of them? And timeskip isn't aaaages away.

      Another option would be to leave both groups for summer as like...'filler' characters for the space between the 4yr timeskip and the end of this round I guess?? Unsure how possible that would be.

simply sultana


Reilas

Dapper Darling

PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 4:32 pm


@Field trips

We've definitely talked about field trips before, and I'm in support. We need more to put in forums and more excuses for characters to interact outside the groups they've ended up in. And the world building reasons would be good.

So, simple enough, I'm for field trips.

@Other Kids (because I think Swim Team is set in stone gonna be in the time skip)


I was one of the two people who picked keep in this timeline, but I am more than happy to leave them to next plot rather than try and mix groups. Other Kids have a really good chemistry and don't think I'd be happy playing Fate with a different group.

@Moving to new forums

Honestly I think we can make it work. We might need to help each other out in learning about how it all works but I think we can do it. I feel like the other forums will be slightly easier to use in general, but I get the feeling of having to settle there.

Though one thing that does come up with this is attracting new members. We'd need to advertise on different websites to get people to learn about it. Gaia did have the accessibility of having a guild search and a community for rping that I don't know would exist in the new forums. But in saying all this, I don't think we've found many new members on Gaia, so who knows, maybe we'll get even more people this way.
PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 6:24 pm


      Yesssssss, some discussion!

      Field trips
      This would be REALLY COOL actually! Field trips would most likely be a single year all visiting X place, and those could take place in the event forum if the area's not already made. And there's a TON of possibilities and space for worldbuilding! Visiting known NPCs (I'm going to use that term to refer to pretty much every adult character since the students are the "main" characters so to speak), or known locations would be fun. In first plot, it was established that Ekaterinas would organize exploration into the Catacombs - maybe something can be done with that as well?

      I'm definitely on board with field trips but it's definitely up to player participation and organization.

      New Kids/Swim Team
      Yeah I'm... personally on board with tossing both these groups into next timeskip. One, it'd seriously be a waste of some creative characters if we kept them in this timeline and then didn't focus on them, and two, moving them into next timeskip gives us more time to focus and develop them. Personally, I want to make some massive changes to mine in both groups.

      Timeskip isn't too far away either! There's maybe two more big events for plot and then character wrap-ups and then we'd be pretty set to move.

      Forum move
      If I'm being honest I really should've consulted with the group properly before making the decision myself. If I'm ALSO being honest, I'd rather move than stay here on Gaia because the forums are becoming increasingly difficult to manage. It's impossible to delete or move forums without causing a huge mess. The new forums are about 10000% easier to manage, and moving offsite also enables me to create a more diverse and better-designed cast of NPCs. (Also, the antagonist list for next plot is REALLY BIG and like hell am I making thirteen new accounts to jump around on.) Also, it's aesthetically more pleasing. So there's that.

      Also, let me take this opportunity to say a HUGE thank you to you guys for helping out with the area threads. I can't emphasize how grateful I am.

      It DOES create an issue with getting new members, though. I'm pretty sure it's against TOS to advertise for other sites directly in the forums, but I can check.

      Maybe since we all have a tumblr we could make a Merlin sideblog? Reblog aesthetic posts, art, character posts, etc. to it. That might make for some pretty good advertising, especially if we reach out to the RP community. I can set the forum on the registry too, but I don't want to do that until it's at least 60% set up.

Jennalaia
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Salty Sleuth


Jennalaia
Captain

Salty Sleuth

PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:49 pm


Quick update - there's a poll at the top of the page. Please vote!
PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 2:04 pm


On Field Trips
I'm all for this idea, to be honest-- There don't seem to be any downsides, once we work how how they'll work. At this point I just kinda want to know how it will be determined who's going and whether we'd do it in forums or on skype.

On the Kids
I'm gonna clump both of them together bc I kinda have the same opinion on both groups. Some people have brought up that putting the kids in the next timeskip would cause problems for multiple reasons. I personally am 100% in favor of putting them in the next timeskip, but we should get those individual issues worked out first.

On the New Location
I wasn't sure about a new location at first, but I think it'll be overall more user-friendly than Gaia, sooo... Let's go for it! Once we all get used to it, I'm confident that we'll have zero problems.

On New Members
A Merlin Tumblr sounds ideal to me. Tumblr has a large rp community from what I've seen, and I don't even follow a lot of rp blogs. Even then, we could reach out to the writers on tumblr (the writing aspect is what finally made me cave and join Merlin in the first place, actually!), so yeah I'm super in favor of this, and if we do get a Merlin tumblr, I'd happily be a mod on it.

Purgatorioed

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Nivenne

Eternal Garbage

PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 5:07 pm


field trips
sounds Cool and im all for em. theyd make for great worldbuilding and interesting new combos of students.

other kids
initially i was kinda against this bc of casey&loren's intertwined plot/backstory and how it would complicate things and my general warm feelings for the group in the present timeline but im working out solutions and shizzzzzzz

new timeline goooo

new forums
they have lots of Buttons. its a little sad leaving gaia bc nostalgia but navigating these forums is kinda tedious and from what ive seen of the new ones theyre much easier

christ we rly gotta advertise though. like.... i found this group by total chance. i doubt ur gonna get many more members like that so sideblog seems like a good idea but the idea of doing it to the tumblr community is a little sideeyeworthy bc some of the ppl are :,) in short
but i mean where else u gonna find ppl so shrugs im a Nervous Person TeeEmm and ill get over it
PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:01 am


@Field trips

I am down for this. an opportunity to explore and expand merlinverse without it being part of character sideplots seems a good idea. solidify the world and lore and all that. they could be year/subject exclusive like focusing on enhancing one of the paths or whatever. Also a good way for inter-friend circle mingling so yep.


@Other Kids and Swim Team


I wouldnt mint leaving them for next time, i do feel a need to restart my swim kiddo anyway seeing as they still havent actually met any other members :'D

as for other kids, i dont have a character in that so im down for whatever, will i make a new character to fit in there? maybe if i have an idea, though there might be the chance i end up slotting them in another circle as well. shrug.

@Moving to new forums

gonna screm at fear of change but ill get used to it ¯_(ツ)_/¯

new members will always be an iffy thing to handle, i wouldnt mind some new people even though there might be clashing of rp styles or getting used to this genre. I guess as long as they aren't problematic itll be fine.

In terms of crew, its a little ambiguous, we've become so inclusive with each other and got our own character plots and lore that we developed and influenced each other with ideas that we've all sort of become pseudo crew members anyway without properly acknowledging it. Still, a proper crew team wouldnt be bad, duties would probably just sum down to shifting the forums around and setting up threads. though i might suggest npc designing as one possible role.

Also rping some mid-time skip stuff would be nice, still feel a little sad at wiping away all those characters.

Makhoire

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Jennalaia
Captain

Salty Sleuth

PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 1:45 pm


      Looks like we worked that massive detail out, so let's move on to some other stuff!

      Field Trips
      My input on this one is simple, again: this is up to player organization and participation. I'm totally happy to pull out NPCs for anything you guys have in mind. First year trip to the forest to gather mushrooms? Sure. Third year trip to the crystal caverns to harvest some crystals? Why not. If you need a teacher NPC, just let me know and I'll gladly bring them along. It can be used to introduce new areas or concepts for worldbuilding purposes, which I'm all for. :') And you're free to use the event forum if you need it!

      Crew Positions
      This is what I REALLY want to talk about here. According to the survey, a lot of you are interested in crew. However, the question is: exactly WHAT are the duties of the crew members? I've been thinking about the various duties (and how I'm heading to college by the time we get to the new forum) and, well... yeah. It'd be nice if there were some crew members. So here's what I was thinking:

      Crew will be comprised of individual roles. A moderator to go over the forums and delete posts or timeskip/move threads as necessary, for example. An official writer of locations (though at the moment it seems we're doing that as a group which is nice). Someone to moderate the chat (which is another point I'm going to get to, along with another poll that will be set up shortly after this goes up). Jobs like that. Personally, I would rather stay in charge of plot and NPC design, and considering the size of the group it's unlikely I'll change my mind on that.

      So if you guys have any suggestions for crew member positions, feel free to throw 'em at me!

      The Chat
      For the last few days we've been messing around with Discord instead of Skype. Now, me, personally? I like it much better. It doesn't freeze incessantly, it's visually smoother and prettier, and it's a LOT faster both on mobile and on the desktop. The other thing I like about it is I can set up a link directly to the server - which I could then in turn link directly to the website, so people visiting or considering joining don't have to go through the convoluted process of being added to all the Skype groups. (I think I can also set up the Discord chat in place of the chatbox, but I'd have to look at the HTML again.)

      However, I'm fully aware that I can't make this decision alone as that would be pretty inconsiderate of you guys! So at the top of the thread is another poll. I also want to hear your personal opinions on the matter.

      Advertising
      Getting new members is definitely going to be a challenge, so once again I'll propose the Merlin sideblog idea. We could reblog general Merlin posts there, along with art, character posts, music, etc. It would also be a good way to reach out to the community, and we could link it in our signatures here for more exposure.


Reilas
Makhoire
plants4life
Nivenne
Purgatorioed
PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 8:10 pm


Field trips:
Hooray!

Crew Positions/Advertising:

Maybe you should assign a role for advertising on Gaia and reaching out to people and such? So we can cover more area other than tunglr. Or whereever else people advertise forum-hosted rps. IDK if you can do that on gaia

The Merlin sideblog thing is defs a cool idea I think yi. We'll probably have to spam tag a lot of original s**t to get attention and stuff tho. (': I think best way to attract people on Tumblr is to contribute to Fandoms&then link to stuff like that?

Chat:
Discord's kool with me!

simply sultana


Nivenne

Eternal Garbage

PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 8:50 pm


field trips
woooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOO heck yeah im down

crew & adverts
totally down for individual roles. that sounds easiest anyway bc a specific task is easier to manage than 100000 different ones. the ones u have listed sounds good- i dont really have a list up of what you manage in my head so i cant think of any positions, but what you have sounds good and i guess we could add or subtract duties as we go along?

and sideblog sounds heeeeellllaaaa. i dk about just using tumblr for advertising because thats a biiiig big big community and we're a fairly small group. its a good idea but i wish there were ways that we could advertise alongside that.

chat (noir)
i honestly miss skype because it feels like we were more active talkers on there and you were notified more easily about when someone posted a chat in main but i will live
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