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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:42 am


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I've been breeding my team over again because I forgot to EV train them. I prefer to go battle wild Pokemon to train, but once your Pokemon become a certain level, it gets hard to level them up.

How do you do it?

And can someone explain how to use the special training to EV train since I can't seem to figure it out.

To be honest, this is the first time I've ever actually started to correctly EV train and make a decent competitive team, so help would be appreciated.
PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:03 am


Easiest way to EV train, in my opinion is wild battles.
But as opposed to going one by one, because of the new Horde System it's a LOT easier.
Certain Hordes give your pokemon 5 or 10 EVs per battle, which becomes 25 or 30 with the proper power item equipped.

http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/a-guide-to-ev-training-with-hordes.3490052/

List of the Hordes and what EVs they give.

And Super Training for EVs is actually simple. XD You just pick the pokemon you want for it, click the little button with the soccer ball on it. Pick the proper stat you're looking to train in, and complete the training thing by reaching the amount of points displayed that you need to reach. Which you do by throwing the balls into the basket like goals that appear on the pokemon ballon.
The targetting for your balls is through moving the stylus, and you move with the joystick. YOu don't want to get hit by the ballon's balls though, they deduct points.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 3:24 pm


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Easiest way to EV train, in my opinion is wild battles.
But as opposed to going one by one, because of the new Horde System it's a LOT easier.
Certain Hordes give your pokemon 5 or 10 EVs per battle, which becomes 25 or 30 with the proper power item equipped.

http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/a-guide-to-ev-training-with-hordes.3490052/

List of the Hordes and what EVs they give.

And Super Training for EVs is actually simple. XD You just pick the pokemon you want for it, click the little button with the soccer ball on it. Pick the proper stat you're looking to train in, and complete the training thing by reaching the amount of points displayed that you need to reach. Which you do by throwing the balls into the basket like goals that appear on the pokemon ballon.
The targetting for your balls is through moving the stylus, and you move with the joystick. YOu don't want to get hit by the ballon's balls though, they deduct points.


With the Pokerus, the minimum you get is 50, maximum with a pokemon that grants 3 Points is 70.

It is also important to note that pokemon getting EXP Via EXP Share ALSO get EVs if they are not fully trained but it is useful for EV Training multiple pokemon in the same stat.

It takes some time fighting in the Battle Maison to get all the power items for all stats, but it is very much worth it as a LvL 3 ST will only grant 12 EVs (or 24 w/ a double up bag) per training session. As I can fully ev train a pokemon in over half the time opposed to the hour of ST training while I may be good at it, it gets oooold.

It's important to note probably the best pokemon to use with EXP Share Horde EV Training is Tediursa for its Pick Up Ability, access to E Quake and Rock Slide as well as Sweet scent with an addition of Brick Break or any other single target move to finish off what Rock Slide misses.

Reason I say Pick Up is the potential of lvl 85+ attempts to get leftovers after each battle. And we all know how useful and godly lefties are. I would say it's the most efficient, but probably not the best as... you can come across Shinies as the hordes have an increased chance of producing shinies and you come with the difficult choice. Kill the shiny, flee, or catch the shiny and muck up your hard earned EVs? Obviously you'd want to catch it, right? Yea, well, have fun because if its a horde you -don't want-, that is 50-70 EVs in a stat you don't want to invest in. Also note, catching pokemon grants EXP and that ALSO gives EVs to all pokemon affected by EXP Share.

Now you could lead with a fully EV Trained pokemon and switch out when the horde of interest finally appears, but who wants to waste time with the tedious task when it is easier to smoke all mons with a well placed R Slide or E Quake and give numerous mons the same EVs with EXP Share and power items of the appropriate stat?

So there is that obvious flaw but rare but it can happen and ruin your hard work. Just saying.
PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 3:51 pm


Also if you're good with memory, the EV a pokemon yields is typically its highest stat. However its not always the case as there are a tie in stats sometimes i.e. Gigalith as he gives both 1 in Attack and Defense as the two stats are exactly the same.

Further information on what EV Training is, which is what you're doing via ST or Super Training or Special Training (h/e you want to call it) is that you get a grand total of 510 EVs altogether. The maximum amount one stat can get is (now) 252, although it used to be 255.

Every 4 EV Points you get is an equivalent of 1 Stat should the said pokemon be at its maximum level of 100. That means if you have 156 ATK with 0 EVs and you'd gain 4 EV Points in that particular stat, it would become 157. However it is only a general estimate as how much you get overall are determined by the Base Stat total, but don't worry about that.

As I stated beforehand, the maximum any stat can get is 252, which is 63 total stats altogether and two stats can be completely maxed out totalling 502 and leaving 6 points leftover which could be put into a stat for 1 Stat point however that last 2 will not give you anything, it's just there to look pretty.

General cookie cutter competitive trend is to usually completely max out two stats in general and slap that last bit in whatever stat such as speed or that smidgen of HP that can or cannot make the difference (Looking Nightshade/S Toss).

However there is no true way to distribute EVs as some can be rather diverse such as 252 HP and 128 in both defenses for example -- this would be good for a wall that can take both ends of the spectrum in terms of attacking while still boasting a deep HP pool, or Bulk as some "smoggoners' like to call it.

For pokemon that hit hard and fast and meant to dish out damage with speed, its sometimes better to just go the cookie cutter 252/252/4 spread in its ATK, SPD, and that last smidge in its HP for Example for like a pokemon such as Weavile who boasts tremendous speed and a rather strong attack while this would be entirely pointless on a pokemon such as Aegislash as they are better to be slower than other pokemon, more commonly another Aegislash due to how his unique mechanics function in the terms of ability.

Now in the case of EV Training through the ST, it's simple, fun and easy once you get the hang of it all. it is very important if you're not going for a 252/252/4 spread to keep track of EVs by the 4s to avoid waste of points. Thankfully the ST program/minigame does this for you by displaying how many you just earned, then at that point its just a method of tallying and adding. As a reference, ST Training grants you the following based upon level.

Lvl 1 Training grants you 4 EVs, 1 Stat
Lvl 2 " " 8 EVs, 2 Stats
LvL 3 " " 12 EVs, 3 Stats

When you use a special bag known as the Double Up Bag, you will gain 2x the amount of the next ST Regimen than you originally would so the 4 becomes 8 and so on.

Now you probably notice the different bags you get during ST Training, these are pretty useful IF you are going for a very accurate spread. There are special bags such as the swiftness bag that give you perks in ST Training to make it easier but grant you no EVs or benefits in the long run, only the Double Up bag does this but do note it only affects the EVs gained in ST Training, not the ones gained from Bags or Battling.

Now Core Training has the bags labeled the stat and the three levels Small, Medium and Large.

Small Grants 1 EV and takes 10 Taps on the Bottom Screen or 1 Tap every minute if you want to leave it be, so that'd be 10 Minutes but you must be on the ST Screen.
Medium Grants 4 EVs and takes 25 Taps " "
Large Grants 12 EVS and takes 50 Taps " "

So Large gives as much as a Lvl 3 ST Level


Sorry if this was long but I hope this helps out. Any questions or clarity issues, ask, I'm very knowledgeable of EV Training.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:32 pm


EV training is to hard for me
PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:18 pm


Pre-Gen6, EV Training used to revolve around getting Power Items, infecting Pokes with PKRS, and then finding a Route that more-or-less exclusively had 'Mon on it that gave out the kind of EVs I was training in.

For instance, in B/W, Route 1 was inhabited exclusively by Patrats and Lilipups, each of which giving 1 ATK EV. With the appropriate Power Item, that became 5 ATK EVs each, and with PKRS that doubled to 10. 25-ish KO'd Pokes later, my 'Mon was fully trained in ATK.

Now with X/Y, EV training is even simpler with Super Training, but in case shooting soccer balls at parade balloons isn't your thing, Horde Battles are a fast way as well, because there's 5 of each monster in each encounter, which equals 5 times the EVs (and with the PKRS + Macho Brace/Power Items, that adds up really fast). Horde battles are kinda rare, but can be triggered instantly by using Sweet Scent or Honey.

HP - Route 5, Gulpins / Connecting Cave, Whismurs
ATK - Route 14, Bellsprout & Weepinbell
DEF - Route 10, Nosepass / Terminus Cave, Geodude & Durant
SpATK - Frost Cavern, Vanillish & Smoochum
SpDEF - Route 7, Hoppip
SPD - Connecting Cave, Zubat / Route 8, Wingull

(Note that if it's raining, using Sweet Scent/Honey won't work to summon a Horde.)

Happy training!

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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2014 3:19 pm


I've never really figured out how to EV train, so I just use the Super training in game mechanic. While it does take a long time, you can seriously cut the time down by using items like Carbos and such... use 10 of the stat relevant item and then use the soccer game and training bags for the remainder.

Basically I use a stat item, following it up with the soccer game until I have a full set of stat related training bags, after which I will use the training bags until I run out and then it's back to the soccer game. I usually do this while watching a show online or something as it can get a tad tedious. Even half focusing on the EV training, I can generally EV train two Pokemon in the span of one show, or two in roughly 60 minutes.

I have noticed that if you do multiple soccer game sessions in a row you can earn more of the L sized bags, though at first you get stuck with the S and M sizes. It's kinda like a chaining thing, and the chain resets when you use the earned bags.

I know the process could be sped up/is most definitely easier with the hoard mechanic, but I'm honestly fine doing it this way. It just works for me *shrugs*
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