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 Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:43 am
If someone is truly adamant that their life should end, why does society still have such a negative view of self-deliverence?
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 8:31 am
Suicide is NEVER a noble choice, and one only made by cowards.
I don't believe in mortal sin, so I wouldn't say it's a sin, but it is wrong.
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 1:53 pm
Suicide is a very egocentric choice, there is no honour in suicide. Under normal circumstances that is...
But what if people sacrifice them selfs to save another person, is that still suicide? and is that not noble?
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 5:09 pm
Suicide is a sad bussiness. To me, no reason is bad enough to commit suicide (unless it's an option between that and a slow painful death). The fact that samurai committed suicide if they lost a battle struck me as odd. Live to fight another day, I say. What a waste of time and resources. If someone truly believes that they shouldn't live, then I'm going to discourage them. There's no reason to committ suicide, it's stupid.
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:00 pm
I was just discussing this earlier.
Suicide is not a noble choice, but I don't believe in constantly putting it down. Suicide is not a desire to end life, but instead a desire to end pain. It normally stems from feelings of helplessness and/or loss of control, whether of self or of surroundings. Suicidal people need to communicate, and with someone who'll actually listen.
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:58 pm
Erichte But what if people sacrifice them selfs to save another person, is that still suicide? and is that not noble? It's self-sacrafice, for one is performing for the benefit of another. Suicide is typically centeralized on the want of one (to get out of life's constraints or get money for their family, for example).
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 1:32 am
angel of plot twists I was just discussing this earlier. Suicide is not a noble choice, but I don't believe in constantly putting it down. Suicide is not a desire to end life, but instead a desire to end pain. It normally stems from feelings of helplessness and/or loss of control, whether of self or of surroundings. Suicidal people need to communicate, and with someone who'll actually listen. I disagree. Sometimes suicide is a concious and rational choice to end life.
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 1:41 pm
Self sacrifice is not suicide. You are not ensuring your life will end. You are merely ensuring someone you apparently care about will continue to live.
Besides, death ain't so bad. You only get one after all.
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:43 pm
Depends on the Situation, sometimes suicide is nessecery.
Suicide is never honourable, it is to reclaim some of your honour for your foul deeds. Slicing your stomach slowly is just a very sincere way of saying, Sorry.
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 3:53 am
ComradeRedFerret Depends on the Situation, sometimes suicide is nessecery. Suicide is never honourable, it is to reclaim some of your honour for your foul deeds. Slicing your stomach slowly is just a very sincere way of saying, Sorry. But if you cut your intestine in half and start eating one end where does the intestine go? Where does it go? stressed
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 10:23 am
SunkenCide ComradeRedFerret Depends on the Situation, sometimes suicide is nessecery. Suicide is never honourable, it is to reclaim some of your honour for your foul deeds. Slicing your stomach slowly is just a very sincere way of saying, Sorry. But if you cut your intestine in half and start eating one end where does the intestine go? Where does it go? stressed You choke on it and die
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 1:11 pm
ComradeRedFerret Depends on the Situation, sometimes suicide is nessecery. Suicide is never honourable, it is to reclaim some of your honour for your foul deeds. Slicing your stomach slowly is just a very sincere way of saying, Sorry. actually the Japanese belive the soul in in your stomach, gutting yourself frees your spirit.Just as the ancient Celts belived the soul was in the head and would collect heads as trophies, thus capturing the spirit of the slain enemy.
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 4:50 pm
Suicide in the case where one is terminally ill is justifiable for me; I do not believe people should continue suffering (I also use this sentiment in the case of the capital punishment).
To recap, dieing for someone else is not suicide (except in the case of economic or material matters). It's more like sacrafice. Dieing for something you believe in (except in the case where your beliefs are twisted by humane standards) is martyrdom.
Angst, especially the teen kind, is not acceptable. Tax fraud is not acceptable.
...Did I miss any other scenarios? For really, it does depend on the situation.
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:28 pm
Well, I don't know. Actually, I just found out that my mother's co-worker's best friend's grandson killed himself today. Just put a gun up to his head and shot.
He was eleven.
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:05 pm
wodewose angel of plot twists I was just discussing this earlier. Suicide is not a noble choice, but I don't believe in constantly putting it down. Suicide is not a desire to end life, but instead a desire to end pain. It normally stems from feelings of helplessness and/or loss of control, whether of self or of surroundings. Suicidal people need to communicate, and with someone who'll actually listen. I disagree. Sometimes suicide is a concious and rational choice to end life. Yes, but not the majority of the time.
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