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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:59 am
Many people are skeptical, and have tons of questions regarding Eddie Bravo, and his branch of Jiu Jitsu, and I'm willing to try to answer them as unbiased, and as ego free as possible.
Because when most people fall in love with a "Style" or form, they close themselves off to everything else, and seemingly attack those who don't understand what their art is about. I'm not here to do that, I'm here to try to answer any questions about the art as ego free as possible. I'm a lover of all ground arts, I wrestled in middle school, and high school, and am going to try out for college wrestling, and I also take Judo, Gracie Jiu JItsu, and 10th Planet JJ. (Yes I do striking arts as well so don't get me wrong.)
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:30 am
Sabre809 BJJ, and Judo has always been Martial Arts involving the GI. The Gi has been there since the beginning, but with the development of the system known as 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu, the art has no gi, because Eddie Bravo believes if you are to fight in the MMA, practicing no gi Jiu Jitsu will get you as MMA ready as possible. But do you guys agree that the aspect of the gi should be stripped from this Art? Ideally, it should be trained both ways so that tradition is protected by application is supported. However, if one is forced to choose as a matter of practicality or time constraint then one should train dependent upon their goals. If your goal is demonstration and tradition, keep the gi. If you goal is applicability for MMA, train without. And if your goal happens to be practical self defense, either can suffice. After all, in a pinch a gi choke will work if your attacker is wearing a jacket or coat and an armbar is an armbar no matter what the opponent is wearing.
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:43 am
quiet_way Sabre809 BJJ, and Judo has always been Martial Arts involving the GI. The Gi has been there since the beginning, but with the development of the system known as 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu, the art has no gi, because Eddie Bravo believes if you are to fight in the MMA, practicing no gi Jiu Jitsu will get you as MMA ready as possible. But do you guys agree that the aspect of the gi should be stripped from this Art? Ideally, it should be trained both ways so that tradition is protected by application is supported. However, if one is forced to choose as a matter of practicality or time constraint then one should train dependent upon their goals. If your goal is demonstration and tradition, keep the gi. If you goal is applicability for MMA, train without. And if your goal happens to be practical self defense, either can suffice. After all, in a pinch a gi choke will work if your attacker is wearing a jacket or coat and an armbar is an armbar no matter what the opponent is wearing. Yes, though many of times the person performing the armbar with the gi, would tend to pull on your sleeve to keep you in control, while no gi, you hook the arm with yours keeping it tight, and I'm not saying that Eddie Bravo disses the gi, he welcomes anyone to train however they want, though its just his personal opinion that working no gi, helps develop grip, and clinch strength. But he wouldn't ram it down your throats, however you want to train is your way, I practice gi, and no gi myself. I'm a huge Jiu Jitsu Fanatic, but I do train in striking styles, and I make sure my stand up, is just as good as my ground game. But I hear your an instructor?...So I'd love to train with you one day, to try out your style.
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:02 am
Sabre809 quiet_way Sabre809 BJJ, and Judo has always been Martial Arts involving the GI. The Gi has been there since the beginning, but with the development of the system known as 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu, the art has no gi, because Eddie Bravo believes if you are to fight in the MMA, practicing no gi Jiu Jitsu will get you as MMA ready as possible. But do you guys agree that the aspect of the gi should be stripped from this Art? Ideally, it should be trained both ways so that tradition is protected by application is supported. However, if one is forced to choose as a matter of practicality or time constraint then one should train dependent upon their goals. If your goal is demonstration and tradition, keep the gi. If you goal is applicability for MMA, train without. And if your goal happens to be practical self defense, either can suffice. After all, in a pinch a gi choke will work if your attacker is wearing a jacket or coat and an armbar is an armbar no matter what the opponent is wearing. Yes, though many of times the person performing the armbar with the gi, would tend to pull on your sleeve to keep you in control, while no gi, you hook the arm with yours keeping it tight, and I'm not saying that Eddie Bravo disses the gi, he welcomes anyone to train however they want, though its just his personal opinion that working no gi, helps develop grip, and clinch strength. But he wouldn't ram it down your throats, however you want to train is your way, I practice gi, and no gi myself. I'm a huge Jiu Jitsu Fanatic, but I do train in striking styles, and I make sure my stand up, is just as good as my ground game. But I hear your an instructor?...So I'd love to train with you one day, to try out your style. I used to give private instruction and hope to do so again here in the near future once my living situation is in place. I feel that I should explain that I have nothing against Eddie Bravo's methods. He teaches a specific application and there's nothing wrong with that at all. You're definitely right, no-gi training helps develop ways to hold on to the opponent without relying upon the presence of specific clothing. Definitely useful in real-life application.
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:14 am
Sabre809 BJJ, and Judo has always been Martial Arts involving the GI. The Gi has been there since the beginning, but with the development of the system known as 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu, the art has no gi, because Eddie Bravo believes if you are to fight in the MMA, practicing no gi Jiu Jitsu will get you as MMA ready as possible. But do you guys agree that the aspect of the gi should be stripped from this Art? I always find it odd when people don't train both. I mean no dis respect to Mr. Bravo but 10th Planet Jui Jitsu is nothing knew and people have been training No gi for a while. I could see what you are saying about being relant on the gi thing But in my experience thats not the case. Look at Ronda Rousey. Most of our judo guys from my dojo have no problem subbing anyone in No gi BJJ tournaments *granted we are talking about world level judo guys in bush league BJJ competitions. * I am not voting in the poll because I don't agree with either option. I find the Gi as a useful training tool and Advocate its use not because of tradition but because I feel it does help develop technique.
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:59 am
I personally don't believe in training just for the ring, even in my MMA days I trained for self defense in one class and ring in another. The Gi has street applications and is for a small amount of training practice.
However, If training for nothing but a MMA bout, gi's are against the rules in most organizations and most of you opponets are shirtless or in spandex/dri fit
so for MMA alone, yeah the Gi really is impractical.
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:59 am
Karl_Krebs Sabre809 BJJ, and Judo has always been Martial Arts involving the GI. The Gi has been there since the beginning, but with the development of the system known as 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu, the art has no gi, because Eddie Bravo believes if you are to fight in the MMA, practicing no gi Jiu Jitsu will get you as MMA ready as possible. But do you guys agree that the aspect of the gi should be stripped from this Art? I always find it odd when people don't train both. I mean no dis respect to Mr. Bravo but 10th Planet Jui Jitsu is nothing knew and people have been training No gi for a while. I could see what you are saying about being relant on the gi thing But in my experience thats not the case. Look at Ronda Rousey. Most of our judo guys from my dojo have no problem subbing anyone in No gi BJJ tournaments *granted we are talking about world level judo guys in bush league BJJ competitions. * I am not voting in the poll because I don't agree with either option. I find the Gi as a useful training tool and Advocate its use not because of tradition but because I feel it does help develop technique. I see, though I will say 10th planet is new, it has some innovative techniques in my opinion, and I understand, I train both gi, and no gi all the time, I guess you could say my game is different though, since I've train in wrestling, judo, BJJ, and 10thPJJ. Because I believe that harmonizing instead of differentiating is a true goal of Mixed Martial Arts. Granted I've subbed a lot of Judo guys, but then again I have also subed BJJ'ers, wrestlers, and some of our own guys alike, only because I haven't absentmindedly closed myself off to one of the arts, so training in most actually opens you to knowing how to defend against each. I also mean no disrespect to either party of any Jiu Jitsu, or grappling background, their ways of practice is theirs, and theirs alone, train no Gi to prepare for MMA, train with gi, to prepare for comps, and tournaments. I'm just a HUGE Jiu Jitsu fanatic, and I want to see how many Rollers are on this sight with this forum I've posted. Don't get me wrong I'm a striker as well, I'm a fan of anderson silva, and am trying to get my stand up the same as his.
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:41 am
Sabre809 Karl_Krebs Sabre809 BJJ, and Judo has always been Martial Arts involving the GI. The Gi has been there since the beginning, but with the development of the system known as 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu, the art has no gi, because Eddie Bravo believes if you are to fight in the MMA, practicing no gi Jiu Jitsu will get you as MMA ready as possible. But do you guys agree that the aspect of the gi should be stripped from this Art? I always find it odd when people don't train both. I mean no dis respect to Mr. Bravo but 10th Planet Jui Jitsu is nothing knew and people have been training No gi for a while. I could see what you are saying about being relant on the gi thing But in my experience thats not the case. Look at Ronda Rousey. Most of our judo guys from my dojo have no problem subbing anyone in No gi BJJ tournaments *granted we are talking about world level judo guys in bush league BJJ competitions. * I am not voting in the poll because I don't agree with either option. I find the Gi as a useful training tool and Advocate its use not because of tradition but because I feel it does help develop technique. I see, though I will say 10th planet is new, it has some innovative techniques in my opinion, and I understand, I train both gi, and no gi all the time, I guess you could say my game is different though, since I've train in wrestling, judo, BJJ, and 10thPJJ. Because I believe that harmonizing instead of differentiating is a true goal of Mixed Martial Arts. Granted I've subbed a lot of Judo guys, but then again I have also subed BJJ'ers, wrestlers, and some of our own guys alike, only because I haven't absentmindedly closed myself off to one of the arts, so training in most actually opens you to knowing how to defend against each. I also mean no disrespect to either party of any Jiu Jitsu, or grappling background, their ways of practice is theirs, and theirs alone, train no Gi to prepare for MMA, train with gi, to prepare for comps, and tournaments. I'm just a HUGE Jiu Jitsu fanatic, and I want to see how many Rollers are on this sight with this forum I've posted. Don't get me wrong I'm a striker as well, I'm a fan of anderson silva, and am trying to get my stand up the same as his. I have to still disagree with you about 10thPJJ I don't consider its own style. Its just BJJ with a stronger focus on unorthodox positions, and I stay that with respect and not as an insult. I agree with you about cross training.
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:56 am
Karl_Krebs Sabre809 Karl_Krebs Sabre809 BJJ, and Judo has always been Martial Arts involving the GI. The Gi has been there since the beginning, but with the development of the system known as 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu, the art has no gi, because Eddie Bravo believes if you are to fight in the MMA, practicing no gi Jiu Jitsu will get you as MMA ready as possible. But do you guys agree that the aspect of the gi should be stripped from this Art? I always find it odd when people don't train both. I mean no dis respect to Mr. Bravo but 10th Planet Jui Jitsu is nothing knew and people have been training No gi for a while. I could see what you are saying about being relant on the gi thing But in my experience thats not the case. Look at Ronda Rousey. Most of our judo guys from my dojo have no problem subbing anyone in No gi BJJ tournaments *granted we are talking about world level judo guys in bush league BJJ competitions. * I am not voting in the poll because I don't agree with either option. I find the Gi as a useful training tool and Advocate its use not because of tradition but because I feel it does help develop technique. I see, though I will say 10th planet is new, it has some innovative techniques in my opinion, and I understand, I train both gi, and no gi all the time, I guess you could say my game is different though, since I've train in wrestling, judo, BJJ, and 10thPJJ. Because I believe that harmonizing instead of differentiating is a true goal of Mixed Martial Arts. Granted I've subbed a lot of Judo guys, but then again I have also subed BJJ'ers, wrestlers, and some of our own guys alike, only because I haven't absentmindedly closed myself off to one of the arts, so training in most actually opens you to knowing how to defend against each. I also mean no disrespect to either party of any Jiu Jitsu, or grappling background, their ways of practice is theirs, and theirs alone, train no Gi to prepare for MMA, train with gi, to prepare for comps, and tournaments. I'm just a HUGE Jiu Jitsu fanatic, and I want to see how many Rollers are on this sight with this forum I've posted. Don't get me wrong I'm a striker as well, I'm a fan of anderson silva, and am trying to get my stand up the same as his. I have to still disagree with you about 10thPJJ I don't consider its own style. Its just BJJ with a stronger focus on unorthodox positions, and I stay that with respect and not as an insult. I agree with you about cross training. Well to each his own I always say, its just that there's nothing in half guard, but lock down, you have the whip up, and electric chair(before you like most people who hate me for taking 10th planet JJ, the silly names are to help you remember techniques), and usually you get guys stuck in the guard, playin double wrist control, and throwing up wild armbars, and triangles with extremely low percentages, but the Rubber guard isn't meant to be a replacement, its only an added addition, its there to increase the percentages of landing those submissions, I'm really flexible, and can pull rubber guard, but I've been a huge fan of Marcelo Garcia so I play a lot from the sitting guard (Or butterfly guard) and the twister side control helps you set up MORE submissions from traditional side control, but I love BJJ so please don't get me wrong, I'm only trying to promote the idea of having an open mind, and trying different styles, some BJJ guys hate wrestlers, some wrestlers hate jiu jitsu, and things like that. But most fail to realize, is that when you put them together, you come out with an amazing experience, and it opens your game up SO much you know?
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:21 am
Sabre809 Karl_Krebs Sabre809 Karl_Krebs Sabre809 BJJ, and Judo has always been Martial Arts involving the GI. The Gi has been there since the beginning, but with the development of the system known as 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu, the art has no gi, because Eddie Bravo believes if you are to fight in the MMA, practicing no gi Jiu Jitsu will get you as MMA ready as possible. But do you guys agree that the aspect of the gi should be stripped from this Art? I always find it odd when people don't train both. I mean no dis respect to Mr. Bravo but 10th Planet Jui Jitsu is nothing knew and people have been training No gi for a while. I could see what you are saying about being relant on the gi thing But in my experience thats not the case. Look at Ronda Rousey. Most of our judo guys from my dojo have no problem subbing anyone in No gi BJJ tournaments *granted we are talking about world level judo guys in bush league BJJ competitions. * I am not voting in the poll because I don't agree with either option. I find the Gi as a useful training tool and Advocate its use not because of tradition but because I feel it does help develop technique. I see, though I will say 10th planet is new, it has some innovative techniques in my opinion, and I understand, I train both gi, and no gi all the time, I guess you could say my game is different though, since I've train in wrestling, judo, BJJ, and 10thPJJ. Because I believe that harmonizing instead of differentiating is a true goal of Mixed Martial Arts. Granted I've subbed a lot of Judo guys, but then again I have also subed BJJ'ers, wrestlers, and some of our own guys alike, only because I haven't absentmindedly closed myself off to one of the arts, so training in most actually opens you to knowing how to defend against each. I also mean no disrespect to either party of any Jiu Jitsu, or grappling background, their ways of practice is theirs, and theirs alone, train no Gi to prepare for MMA, train with gi, to prepare for comps, and tournaments. I'm just a HUGE Jiu Jitsu fanatic, and I want to see how many Rollers are on this sight with this forum I've posted. Don't get me wrong I'm a striker as well, I'm a fan of anderson silva, and am trying to get my stand up the same as his. I have to still disagree with you about 10thPJJ I don't consider its own style. Its just BJJ with a stronger focus on unorthodox positions, and I stay that with respect and not as an insult. I agree with you about cross training. Well to each his own I always say, its just that there's nothing in half guard, but lock down, you have the whip up, and electric chair(before you like most people who hate me for taking 10th planet JJ, the silly names are to help you remember techniques), and usually you get guys stuck in the guard, playin double wrist control, and throwing up wild armbars, and triangles with extremely low percentages, but the Rubber guard isn't meant to be a replacement, its only an added addition, its there to increase the percentages of landing those submissions, I'm really flexible, and can pull rubber guard, but I've been a huge fan of Marcelo Garcia so I play a lot from the sitting guard (Or butterfly guard) and the twister side control helps you set up MORE submissions from traditional side control, but I love BJJ so please don't get me wrong, I'm only trying to promote the idea of having an open mind, and trying different styles, some BJJ guys hate wrestlers, some wrestlers hate jiu jitsu, and things like that. But most fail to realize, is that when you put them together, you come out with an amazing experience, and it opens your game up SO much you know? I don't hate 10thPJJ at all. Like i said earlier my only complaint with the entire system is that people consider it its own martial art style like how some people say that Gracie Jiu Jitsu is its own art. But thats just a wording preference on my part. I have no problem with the alternate names for techniques and I tend to talk about most judo throws with nick names Hell I call Tawara Gaeshi either rice bag reversal or the "Wrasler Dump" but on the other side I make it a point to know its Japanese term so that I can converse with people universally you know? I can't really figure out what the technique is when you say electric char (I had to ask a friend) But when I say O soto gari it is what it means Major outside Reap (Granted this requires a knowledge of Japanese]
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:29 am
Karl_Krebs Sabre809 Karl_Krebs Sabre809 Karl_Krebs Sabre809 BJJ, and Judo has always been Martial Arts involving the GI. The Gi has been there since the beginning, but with the development of the system known as 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu, the art has no gi, because Eddie Bravo believes if you are to fight in the MMA, practicing no gi Jiu Jitsu will get you as MMA ready as possible. But do you guys agree that the aspect of the gi should be stripped from this Art? I always find it odd when people don't train both. I mean no dis respect to Mr. Bravo but 10th Planet Jui Jitsu is nothing knew and people have been training No gi for a while. I could see what you are saying about being relant on the gi thing But in my experience thats not the case. Look at Ronda Rousey. Most of our judo guys from my dojo have no problem subbing anyone in No gi BJJ tournaments *granted we are talking about world level judo guys in bush league BJJ competitions. * I am not voting in the poll because I don't agree with either option. I find the Gi as a useful training tool and Advocate its use not because of tradition but because I feel it does help develop technique. I see, though I will say 10th planet is new, it has some innovative techniques in my opinion, and I understand, I train both gi, and no gi all the time, I guess you could say my game is different though, since I've train in wrestling, judo, BJJ, and 10thPJJ. Because I believe that harmonizing instead of differentiating is a true goal of Mixed Martial Arts. Granted I've subbed a lot of Judo guys, but then again I have also subed BJJ'ers, wrestlers, and some of our own guys alike, only because I haven't absentmindedly closed myself off to one of the arts, so training in most actually opens you to knowing how to defend against each. I also mean no disrespect to either party of any Jiu Jitsu, or grappling background, their ways of practice is theirs, and theirs alone, train no Gi to prepare for MMA, train with gi, to prepare for comps, and tournaments. I'm just a HUGE Jiu Jitsu fanatic, and I want to see how many Rollers are on this sight with this forum I've posted. Don't get me wrong I'm a striker as well, I'm a fan of anderson silva, and am trying to get my stand up the same as his. I have to still disagree with you about 10thPJJ I don't consider its own style. Its just BJJ with a stronger focus on unorthodox positions, and I stay that with respect and not as an insult. I agree with you about cross training. Well to each his own I always say, its just that there's nothing in half guard, but lock down, you have the whip up, and electric chair(before you like most people who hate me for taking 10th planet JJ, the silly names are to help you remember techniques), and usually you get guys stuck in the guard, playin double wrist control, and throwing up wild armbars, and triangles with extremely low percentages, but the Rubber guard isn't meant to be a replacement, its only an added addition, its there to increase the percentages of landing those submissions, I'm really flexible, and can pull rubber guard, but I've been a huge fan of Marcelo Garcia so I play a lot from the sitting guard (Or butterfly guard) and the twister side control helps you set up MORE submissions from traditional side control, but I love BJJ so please don't get me wrong, I'm only trying to promote the idea of having an open mind, and trying different styles, some BJJ guys hate wrestlers, some wrestlers hate jiu jitsu, and things like that. But most fail to realize, is that when you put them together, you come out with an amazing experience, and it opens your game up SO much you know? I don't hate 10thPJJ at all. Like i said earlier my only complaint with the entire system is that people consider it its own martial art style like how some people say that Gracie Jiu Jitsu is its own art. But thats just a wording preference on my part. I have no problem with the alternate names for techniques and I tend to talk about most judo throws with nick names Hell I call Tawara Gaeshi either rice bag reversal or the "Wrasler Dump" but on the other side I make it a point to know its Japanese term so that I can converse with people universally you know? I can't really figure out what the technique is when you say electric char (I had to ask a friend) But when I say O soto gari it is what it means Major outside Reap (Granted this requires a knowledge of Japanese] Okay THAT I agree on, sometimes the names don't match what the technique is, but its basically a sweep from lockdown, and if your opponents legs aren't flexible it can be a submission, I like your idea of making up some names for stuff, not to change it, but because its fun, which is 10th P's concept too, only they don't have it match technique, and they do have some BJJ guys giving BJJ lessons, because you need a base, especially if your going into a tournament, because some tournaments calf crushes are illegal, and so is the twister, so you can use it to take their backs. But Eddie Bravo doesn't consider it, its own style, or complete style, he knows it could use some work, and he's trying to evolve it, because there was a piece of the system he used, but it stopped working(Or didn't work) so he took it out of the system, so it still needs work, I recommend taking 10th Planet, but I wouldn't recommend taking ONLY 10th planet, because its in its infancy you know? I consider it a branch, or variation, just like how Judo, took the practicals from Jiu Jitsu, then the Gracie's took from Judo, to make BJJ, and 10th planet is basically the same you know? Its just another branch down the line, WHICH, is why I study all of them, because if they're all branches from each other than learning them together may actually be a good thing.
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:29 pm
Sabre809 Karl_Krebs Sabre809 Karl_Krebs Sabre809 I see, though I will say 10th planet is new, it has some innovative techniques in my opinion, and I understand, I train both gi, and no gi all the time, I guess you could say my game is different though, since I've train in wrestling, judo, BJJ, and 10thPJJ. Because I believe that harmonizing instead of differentiating is a true goal of Mixed Martial Arts. Granted I've subbed a lot of Judo guys, but then again I have also subed BJJ'ers, wrestlers, and some of our own guys alike, only because I haven't absentmindedly closed myself off to one of the arts, so training in most actually opens you to knowing how to defend against each. I also mean no disrespect to either party of any Jiu Jitsu, or grappling background, their ways of practice is theirs, and theirs alone, train no Gi to prepare for MMA, train with gi, to prepare for comps, and tournaments. I'm just a HUGE Jiu Jitsu fanatic, and I want to see how many Rollers are on this sight with this forum I've posted. Don't get me wrong I'm a striker as well, I'm a fan of anderson silva, and am trying to get my stand up the same as his. I have to still disagree with you about 10thPJJ I don't consider its own style. Its just BJJ with a stronger focus on unorthodox positions, and I stay that with respect and not as an insult. I agree with you about cross training. Well to each his own I always say, its just that there's nothing in half guard, but lock down, you have the whip up, and electric chair(before you like most people who hate me for taking 10th planet JJ, the silly names are to help you remember techniques), and usually you get guys stuck in the guard, playin double wrist control, and throwing up wild armbars, and triangles with extremely low percentages, but the Rubber guard isn't meant to be a replacement, its only an added addition, its there to increase the percentages of landing those submissions, I'm really flexible, and can pull rubber guard, but I've been a huge fan of Marcelo Garcia so I play a lot from the sitting guard (Or butterfly guard) and the twister side control helps you set up MORE submissions from traditional side control, but I love BJJ so please don't get me wrong, I'm only trying to promote the idea of having an open mind, and trying different styles, some BJJ guys hate wrestlers, some wrestlers hate jiu jitsu, and things like that. But most fail to realize, is that when you put them together, you come out with an amazing experience, and it opens your game up SO much you know? I don't hate 10thPJJ at all. Like i said earlier my only complaint with the entire system is that people consider it its own martial art style like how some people say that Gracie Jiu Jitsu is its own art. But thats just a wording preference on my part. I have no problem with the alternate names for techniques and I tend to talk about most judo throws with nick names Hell I call Tawara Gaeshi either rice bag reversal or the "Wrasler Dump" but on the other side I make it a point to know its Japanese term so that I can converse with people universally you know? I can't really figure out what the technique is when you say electric char (I had to ask a friend) But when I say O soto gari it is what it means Major outside Reap (Granted this requires a knowledge of Japanese] Okay THAT I agree on, sometimes the names don't match what the technique is, but its basically a sweep from lockdown, and if your opponents legs aren't flexible it can be a submission, I like your idea of making up some names for stuff, not to change it, but because its fun, which is 10th P's concept too, only they don't have it match technique, and they do have some BJJ guys giving BJJ lessons, because you need a base, especially if your going into a tournament, because some tournaments calf crushes are illegal, and so is the twister, so you can use it to take their backs. But Eddie Bravo doesn't consider it, its own style, or complete style, he knows it could use some work, and he's trying to evolve it, because there was a piece of the system he used, but it stopped working(Or didn't work) so he took it out of the system, so it still needs work, I recommend taking 10th Planet, but I wouldn't recommend taking ONLY 10th planet, because its in its infancy you know? I consider it a branch, or variation, just like how Judo, took the practicals from Jiu Jitsu, then the Gracie's took from Judo, to make BJJ, and 10th planet is basically the same you know? Its just another branch down the line, WHICH, is why I study all of them, because if they're all branches from each other than learning them together may actually be a good thing. Belive me if there was 10thPJJ in my area I would be all up on it. Alas they don't and most BJJ places have schedules that interefere with my College Classes or my juod. sad
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:23 am
Gi ... no-gi ... I just like training both ... why not ...I look at it as I'm strengthening my overall game ... I don't necessarily look at it as one is better than the other ... it's just jiu-jitsu ...
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:22 am
theotherbakasurvivor Gi ... no-gi ... I just like training both ... why not ...I look at it as I'm strengthening my overall game ... I don't necessarily look at it as one is better than the other ... it's just jiu-jitsu ... Sorry I forgot to fix this post, it was a mistake to put this up...It came out in a wrong way, and people misunderstood...
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:01 pm
I train Caique Brazilian Jiujitsu and we traditionally train with a gi, although we always discuss and practice applications without the gi because realistically, on the street, we would most likely not be attacked when we are in a gi.
I read something about people who take a style tend to be closed minded to other styles. I disagree with that statement because I originally started and still do practice Ryu Te Kempo Karate. I'm a black belt in karate and a third stripe white belt in jiujitsu. I've studied karate for five years and jiujitsu for a year and a half. Karate is my core art, but I also train jiujitsu so that if I were ever taken to the ground I can be proficient in defending myself in a street confrontation.
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