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 Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:32 pm
I want to know more about the history of the Metal Heads and how metal came to be. I know a few facts but I was wondering who knew the metal genre extensively. Please, if anyone has any new information, keep posting and I'll be more than happy to start learning. Also throw in a few fun facts and who your favorite artist is, I'm always open to new ideas. Any info on any metal band will be appreciated. Thank you!!
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:31 pm
Real Horrorshow Groodies It began with Black Sabbath (though I would not discount the influence of bands like Sir Lord Baltimore and Blue Cheer), and it pretty much just branched out from there. What genres do you want to know about? I did know that the grandfather of metal was Black Sabbath but I really want to get deeper than that. What genre (other than Blues and Rock n' Roll) or genre's did metal classically come from, how old is metal, and what are the true basics?
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:58 am
Real Horrorshow Groodies Nightmare3612 Real Horrorshow Groodies It began with Black Sabbath (though I would not discount the influence of bands like Sir Lord Baltimore and Blue Cheer), and it pretty much just branched out from there. What genres do you want to know about? I did know that the grandfather of metal was Black Sabbath but I really want to get deeper than that. What genre (other than Blues and Rock n' Roll) or genre's did metal classically come from, how old is metal, and what are the true basics? The year of formation is generally considered to be around 1969. Metal can take on any variety of influences, but foundationally, it came out of rock and blues. The true basics are riffs, man. In comparison to pop music, rock de-emphasized vocals and placed more emphasis on the band from an instrumental perspective. Metal did that to an even greater extent, and was known to structurally abandon the rock songwriting format in many cases. Thank you for the information. I did learn something new and I do appreciate all information I can get.
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:16 pm
Nightmare3612 I want to know more about the history of the Metal Heads and how metal came to be. I know a few facts but I was wondering who knew the metal genre extensively. Please, if anyone has any new information, keep posting and I'll be more than happy to start learning. Also throw in a few fun facts and who your favorite artist is, I'm always open to new ideas. Any info on any metal band will be appreciated. Thank you!! Metal itself has been around for about 40 years now and its roots can be found in rock, blues, jazz, and other regional influences. There are only 7 main father genres including heavy metal, black metal, death metal, power metal,progressive metal,the new wave of british heavy metal, and thrash metal. Recently, multiple subgenres have formed such as symphonic metal, melodic death metal, grind metal, grindcore, deathcore, and metalcore. The new wave of british heavy metal or NWOBHM was fronted by iconic bands such as judas priest, iron maiden, black sabbath, etc. From this grew the need for heavier, faster music. From this, thrash metal was created with thrash forefathers metallica, megadeth, anthrax, and slayer in the early to mid 80s. With the 90's came grunge, a subgenre many headbangers debate should be included with such iconic metal names. With the grunge era dying in the mid 90s, so arose genres such as numetal, the rap/rock style, the birth of metalcore, and hardcore bands. In recent years, metalcore has become more relevant and new subgenres have been added such as nintendocore, deathrock, deathcore, grindcore, gothcore, and screamo. As you might have noticed, some styles are coming back such as thrash, hair metal, and death metal
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:19 pm
Real Horrorshow Groodies Yuei the moon spirit Nightmare3612 I want to know more about the history of the Metal Heads and how metal came to be. I know a few facts but I was wondering who knew the metal genre extensively. Please, if anyone has any new information, keep posting and I'll be more than happy to start learning. Also throw in a few fun facts and who your favorite artist is, I'm always open to new ideas. Any info on any metal band will be appreciated. Thank you!! Metal itself has been around for about 40 years now and its roots can be found in rock, blues, jazz, and other regional influences. There are only 7 main father genres including heavy metal, black metal, death metal, power metal,progressive metal,the new wave of british heavy metal, and thrash metal. Recently, multiple subgenres have formed such as symphonic metal, melodic death metal, grind metal, grindcore, deathcore, and metalcore. The new wave of british heavy metal or NWOBHM was fronted by iconic bands such as judas priest, iron maiden, black sabbath, etc. From this grew the need for heavier, faster music. From this, thrash metal was created with thrash forefathers metallica, megadeth, anthrax, and slayer in the early to mid 80s. With the 90's came grunge, a subgenre many headbangers debate should be included with such iconic metal names. With the grunge era dying in the mid 90s, so arose genres such as numetal, the rap/rock style, the birth of metalcore, and hardcore bands. In recent years, metalcore has become more relevant and new subgenres have been added such as nintendocore, deathrock, deathcore, grindcore, gothcore, and screamo. As you might have noticed, some styles are coming back such as thrash, hair metal, and death metal NWOBHM is heavy metal. And you forgot about doom and sludge metal (my personal favorites), as well as folk and speed metal. Hardcore and screamo are punk subgenres, not metal. And deathrock is a combination of goth rock and hardcore, so that's not metal either. And I'm pretty sure gothcore isn't a thing. And I don't think I'd consider metalcore and deathcore to be subgenres most of the time. They're more liminal figures, as is the case with grindcore. And metalcore was contemporary with grunge. Does anyone actually argue that grunge should be considered metal? Because that's a difficult argument to make considering grunge was primarily influenced by classic rock, alternative, and punk/hardcore. doom and sludge kinda go along with the "Need for darker, faster, heavier music part" thank you for correcting me
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:27 pm
Real Horrorshow Groodies Yuei the moon spirit Real Horrorshow Groodies Yuei the moon spirit Nightmare3612 I want to know more about the history of the Metal Heads and how metal came to be. I know a few facts but I was wondering who knew the metal genre extensively. Please, if anyone has any new information, keep posting and I'll be more than happy to start learning. Also throw in a few fun facts and who your favorite artist is, I'm always open to new ideas. Any info on any metal band will be appreciated. Thank you!! Metal itself has been around for about 40 years now and its roots can be found in rock, blues, jazz, and other regional influences. There are only 7 main father genres including heavy metal, black metal, death metal, power metal,progressive metal,the new wave of british heavy metal, and thrash metal. Recently, multiple subgenres have formed such as symphonic metal, melodic death metal, grind metal, grindcore, deathcore, and metalcore. The new wave of british heavy metal or NWOBHM was fronted by iconic bands such as judas priest, iron maiden, black sabbath, etc. From this grew the need for heavier, faster music. From this, thrash metal was created with thrash forefathers metallica, megadeth, anthrax, and slayer in the early to mid 80s. With the 90's came grunge, a subgenre many headbangers debate should be included with such iconic metal names. With the grunge era dying in the mid 90s, so arose genres such as numetal, the rap/rock style, the birth of metalcore, and hardcore bands. In recent years, metalcore has become more relevant and new subgenres have been added such as nintendocore, deathrock, deathcore, grindcore, gothcore, and screamo. As you might have noticed, some styles are coming back such as thrash, hair metal, and death metal NWOBHM is heavy metal. And you forgot about doom and sludge metal (my personal favorites), as well as folk and speed metal. Hardcore and screamo are punk subgenres, not metal. And deathrock is a combination of goth rock and hardcore, so that's not metal either. And I'm pretty sure gothcore isn't a thing. And I don't think I'd consider metalcore and deathcore to be subgenres most of the time. They're more liminal figures, as is the case with grindcore. And metalcore was contemporary with grunge. Does anyone actually argue that grunge should be considered metal? Because that's a difficult argument to make considering grunge was primarily influenced by classic rock, alternative, and punk/hardcore. doom and sludge kinda go along with the "Need for darker, faster, heavier music part" thank you for correcting me Doom is kind of slow usually. That's probably the genre that's closest to old school Black Sabbath. Sludge can be pretty fast-paced, though, since it has a strong hardcore punk influence. Isnt doom metal bands like behemoth and bands like that?
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:34 pm
Real Horrorshow Groodies Yuei the moon spirit Real Horrorshow Groodies Yuei the moon spirit Real Horrorshow Groodies NWOBHM is heavy metal. And you forgot about doom and sludge metal (my personal favorites), as well as folk and speed metal. Hardcore and screamo are punk subgenres, not metal. And deathrock is a combination of goth rock and hardcore, so that's not metal either. And I'm pretty sure gothcore isn't a thing. And I don't think I'd consider metalcore and deathcore to be subgenres most of the time. They're more liminal figures, as is the case with grindcore. And metalcore was contemporary with grunge. Does anyone actually argue that grunge should be considered metal? Because that's a difficult argument to make considering grunge was primarily influenced by classic rock, alternative, and punk/hardcore. doom and sludge kinda go along with the "Need for darker, faster, heavier music part" thank you for correcting me Doom is kind of slow usually. That's probably the genre that's closest to old school Black Sabbath. Sludge can be pretty fast-paced, though, since it has a strong hardcore punk influence. Isnt doom metal bands like behemoth and bands like that? Behemoth's a black metal band. Doom metal is stuff like Saint Vitus, Candlemass, Witchfinder General, Sleep, Reverend Bizarre, Electric Wizard, Funeral, Skepticism, and so on and so forth. Subgenres include funeral doom, stoner metal, death doom, gothic doom, and sludge/doom crossover. excuse my grammer on the previous post haha. Isnt it debatable that behemoth is black metal? I know some people who call them thrash metal, death metal, and so on down the line. The same thing happens with bands like impending doom and lazarus ad
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:51 pm
Real Horrorshow Groodies Yuei the moon spirit Real Horrorshow Groodies Yuei the moon spirit Real Horrorshow Groodies Doom is kind of slow usually. That's probably the genre that's closest to old school Black Sabbath. Sludge can be pretty fast-paced, though, since it has a strong hardcore punk influence. Isnt doom metal bands like behemoth and bands like that? Behemoth's a black metal band. Doom metal is stuff like Saint Vitus, Candlemass, Witchfinder General, Sleep, Reverend Bizarre, Electric Wizard, Funeral, Skepticism, and so on and so forth. Subgenres include funeral doom, stoner metal, death doom, gothic doom, and sludge/doom crossover. excuse my grammer on the previous post haha. Isnt it debatable that behemoth is black metal? I know some people who call them thrash metal, death metal, and so on down the line. The same thing happens with bands like impending doom and lazarus ad Behemoth did made some more death-infused material later on, but they've always had a black metal legacy (albeit not quite as illustrious as some of their contemporaries). Impending Doom flips between death, black, and thrash metal. Both death and black metal were born from thrash, so crossover isn't that unusual. Lazarus A.D. is a groove metal band, so if anyone tries to tell you that they're black metal, you can tell them that they're stupid. Nice man. Thanks. Quick question i get metalcore not being metal but why not deathcore being a subgenre? is it because it cant really be distinguished much from death metal? Or you just dont consider it, its own genre
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