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Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 10:24 pm
My concern when I see people fighting either in the UFC,tournaments,or street fights is that the average martial artist lies to themselves with techniques and skills.The problem is that they succumb to the technique rather than the technique wielding to them.
The technique looks good, but it seems to have no meaning.If I get into a fight I want to fight someone with integrity.Someone who doesn't lie to me in a fight.
I say, be yourself.After all no one knows you better than yourself.My concept concerning this problem that is very common in martial arts is to be light.Do not be burdened by the technique.Lift yourself up and be LIGHT.Have caution of these things my friends.Stay pure to yourself.The last thing you want is to be an enemy of yourself.
So be earnest and light my friend... Not heavy.
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 10:28 pm
KUNG FUN My concern when I see people fighting either in the UFC,tournaments,or street fights is that the average martial artist lies to themselves with techniques and skills.The problem is that they succumb to the technique rather than the technique wielding to them. The technique looks good, but it seems to have no meaning.If I get into a fight I want to fight someone with integrity.Someone who doesn't lie to me in a fight. I say, be yourself.After all no one knows you better than yourself.My concept concerning this problem that is very common in martial arts is to be light.Do not be burdened by the technique.Lift yourself up and be LIGHT.Have caution of these things my friends.Stay pure to yourself.The last thing you want is to be an enemy of yourself. So be earnest and light my friend... Not heavy. I am very confused by what you are trying to say here. Could you please rephrase?
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 10:33 pm
Karl_Krebs KUNG FUN My concern when I see people fighting either in the UFC,tournaments,or street fights is that the average martial artist lies to themselves with techniques and skills.The problem is that they succumb to the technique rather than the technique wielding to them. The technique looks good, but it seems to have no meaning.If I get into a fight I want to fight someone with integrity.Someone who doesn't lie to me in a fight. I say, be yourself.After all no one knows you better than yourself.My concept concerning this problem that is very common in martial arts is to be light.Do not be burdened by the technique.Lift yourself up and be LIGHT.Have caution of these things my friends.Stay pure to yourself.The last thing you want is to be an enemy of yourself. So be earnest and light my friend... Not heavy. I am very confused by what you are trying to say here. Could you please rephrase? Next time my friend don't think about what I'm trying to say but rather feel what I'm saying.However I will rephrase.But first what do you think expressing the body means? Too you?
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 11:42 am
KUNG FUN Next time my friend don't think about what I'm trying to say but rather feel what I'm saying.However I will rephrase.But first what do you think expressing the body means? Too you? Well, while I sort of understand what you're saying, how do YOU know what THEY feel or what's in them? You're generalizing and saying everyone isn't as "enlightened" as yourself, pretty much..Which is rather arrogant. Unless you rephrase it better, that's how you come off, to me, at least. Besides, being a heavy-weight myself, I prefer to keep it heavy, heheh. razz
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 1:12 pm
Kuyote the Fool KUNG FUN Next time my friend don't think about what I'm trying to say but rather feel what I'm saying.However I will rephrase.But first what do you think expressing the body means? Too you? Well, while I sort of understand what you're saying, how do YOU know what THEY feel or what's in them? You're generalizing and saying everyone isn't as "enlightened" as yourself, pretty much..Which is rather arrogant. Unless you rephrase it better, that's how you come off, to me, at least. Besides, being a heavy-weight myself, I prefer to keep it heavy, heheh. razz Pretty much this. I find the view that I am not enlightened or that it is required to become a good martial artist rather offensive.
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 3:52 pm
Karl_Krebs Kuyote the Fool KUNG FUN Next time my friend don't think about what I'm trying to say but rather feel what I'm saying.However I will rephrase.But first what do you think expressing the body means? Too you? Well, while I sort of understand what you're saying, how do YOU know what THEY feel or what's in them? You're generalizing and saying everyone isn't as "enlightened" as yourself, pretty much..Which is rather arrogant. Unless you rephrase it better, that's how you come off, to me, at least. Besides, being a heavy-weight myself, I prefer to keep it heavy, heheh. razz Pretty much this. I find the view that I am not enlightened or that it is required to become a good martial artist rather offensive. I do not see this man as offensive one bit. Rather, I find you guys to be ignorant to the question before you. He wants an equal and prideful fight. He sees martial art's as a way of fighting and seeking personal gain and ambition as a means to show himself. Its a means of spiritual guidance and all arts represent it in some way of what they believe. And Also, he isnt saying that people are not as "enlightened" as him. He's stating that he's sad that people have lost their touch and feeling for the art. Now its just become a tool of fighting. Solely, a reliable weapon.
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 4:47 pm
Kuyote the Fool KUNG FUN Next time my friend don't think about what I'm trying to say but rather feel what I'm saying.However I will rephrase.But first what do you think expressing the body means? Too you? Well, while I sort of understand what you're saying, how do YOU know what THEY feel or what's in them? You're generalizing and saying everyone isn't as "enlightened" as yourself, pretty much..Which is rather arrogant. Unless you rephrase it better, that's how you come off, to me, at least. Besides, being a heavy-weight myself, I prefer to keep it heavy, heheh. razz sorry I had a little mix up but ill explain what I'm trying to say in my next post.Ok biggrin
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 5:49 pm
Kuyote the Fool KUNG FUN Next time my friend don't think about what I'm trying to say but rather feel what I'm saying.However I will rephrase.But first what do you think expressing the body means? Too you? Well, while I sort of understand what you're saying, how do YOU know what THEY feel or what's in them? You're generalizing and saying everyone isn't as "enlightened" as yourself, pretty much..Which is rather arrogant. Unless you rephrase it better, that's how you come off, to me, at least. Besides, being a heavy-weight myself, I prefer to keep it heavy, heheh. razz First I will assure you my friend that I have let go of arrogance,ego, and pride a long time ago.Plus i'm not saying that I'm "enlightened"or that no one else is.I'm saying that is it very common that people do not express themselves while fighting and that it is COMMONLY taken as just weapon or the thing I COMMONLY hear the most...self defense.And that my friend,isn't just the point of martial arts.And like I said,People only are thinking of technique and have lost the true meaning meaning of expressing themselves(btw I'm really trying to make sure you understand what I'm saying)therefore they are showing me only technique and not themselves.Think about it like this.On this show called the voice...their was this guy who sanged opera so well,but when he sang you could tell it was all technique even two of the judges (Christina Agr-something and Cee-Lo green)saw this problem and they said it was beautiful but he had no emotional content or any meaning in his performance.So this is kind of the exact problem I see in martial arts.And if you need more explaining ill be glad to help because basically Reis Kensukei explained it all.I find it funny that he was able to understand what I'm saying.Its as if my insignificant words truly went to his heart and not his mind.I didn't even rephrase or anything to him and he still understood.Perhaps I am talking to a exact demonstration of what I'm trying to say.And when I say be LIGHT,I'm saying that not only you should be light on your feet but I'm saying you should lift yourself from that heavy boulder that represents the technique and not be overwhelmed by it.But rather be light and pure to yourself when fighting.BUT don't get me wrong you do need technique but however don't let it be the heavy boulder that stops you from truly being yourself.In other words be earnest.I don't mean heavy weight or light weight or anything like that.And plus btw that's one of the reasons I can tell that you seem like a great example for what I'm saying.Your mind is only thinking about this in ways of physical and a technique way.But you have to look hard my friend, to find something in a dark tunnel... I would also love to hear anything else you have that is against my concept.
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 5:54 pm
Kuyote the Fool KUNG FUN Next time my friend don't think about what I'm trying to say but rather feel what I'm saying.However I will rephrase.But first what do you think expressing the body means? Too you?[/quote Well, while I sort of understand what you're saying, how do YOU know what THEY feel or what's in them? You're generalizing and saying everyone isn't as "enlightened" as yourself, pretty much..Which is rather arrogant. Unless you rephrase it better, that's how you come off, to me, at least. Besides, being a heavy-weight myself, I prefer to keep it heavy, heheh. razz Oh and unfortunately your not even close to understanding what I'm saying and please I'm not trying to offend or be a complete jerk.So please don't see me as that.
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 6:14 pm
Karl_Krebs Kuyote the Fool KUNG FUN Next time my friend don't think about what I'm trying to say but rather feel what I'm saying.However I will rephrase.But first what do you think expressing the body means? Too you? Well, while I sort of understand what you're saying, how do YOU know what THEY feel or what's in them? You're generalizing and saying everyone isn't as "enlightened" as yourself, pretty much..Which is rather arrogant. Unless you rephrase it better, that's how you come off, to me, at least. Besides, being a heavy-weight myself, I prefer to keep it heavy, heheh. razz Pretty much this. I find the view that I am not enlightened or that it is required to become a good martial artist rather offensive. what the heck? It has nothing to do with being enlightened.But I say unto you that in this worlds standards, to be a good martial artist train train train and win win win.But to be a true martial artist...express yourself.I will only say that much too you. If you cant understand well I cannot run in your lane my friend.After all I came to this reality of what this post is about recently.So I need to even better myself as well so I can be on my way from being good to a true martial artist. I hope your day goes well
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 6:20 pm
I will say this only once.Read and please try your best to fully understand what I'm trying to say before you reply.The concept is not easy to understand.It is complex that requires an open mind biggrin
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 6:41 pm
I would also like to say that in my first paragraph of what I first said I was wrong.Street fighters even though some lack technique,they actually fight with integrity
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 8:38 pm
KUNG FUN First I will assure you my friend that I have let go of arrogance,ego, and pride a long time ago.Plus i'm not saying that I'm "enlightened"or that no one else is.I'm saying that is it very common that people do not express themselves while fighting and that it is COMMONLY taken as just weapon or the thing I COMMONLY hear the most...self defense.And that my friend,isn't just the point of martial arts.And like I said,People only are thinking of technique and have lost the true meaning meaning of expressing themselves(btw I'm really trying to make sure you understand what I'm saying)therefore they are showing me only technique and not themselves.Think about it like this.On this show called the voice...their was this guy who sanged opera so well,but when he sang you could tell it was all technique even two of the judges (Christina Agr-something and Cee-Lo green)saw this problem and they said it was beautiful but he had no emotional content or any meaning in his performance.So this is kind of the exact problem I see in martial arts.And if you need more explaining ill be glad to help because basically Reis Kensukei explained it all.I find it funny that he was able to understand what I'm saying.Its as if my insignificant words truly went to his heart and not his mind.I didn't even rephrase or anything to him and he still understood.Perhaps I am talking to a exact demonstration of what I'm trying to say.And when I say be LIGHT,I'm saying that not only you should be light on your feet but I'm saying you should lift yourself from that heavy boulder that represents the technique and not be overwhelmed by it.But rather be light and pure to yourself when fighting.BUT don't get me wrong you do need technique but however don't let it be the heavy boulder that stops you from truly being yourself.In other words be earnest.I don't mean heavy weight or light weight or anything like that.And plus btw that's one of the reasons I can tell that you seem like a great example for what I'm saying.Your mind is only thinking about this in ways of physical and a technique way.But you have to look hard my friend, to find something in a dark tunnel... I would also love to hear anything else you have that is against my concept. Maybe humor passes you by, but okay..I was making a joke about the heavy-weight thing, not being serious. Why so serious? razz However, you are still basically saying that people who don't embrace your philosophy are wrong. You may say you're not, but you still go on to saying that your way is right. I still cannot respect that because you're saying other people who do not follow your philosophy aren't as good as they could be. Besides, your philosophy is yours, I personally embrace my pride and competitive nature while also maintaining a humble demeanor. Having pride or ego is not a bad thing, maybe it's you who should be more open-minded rather than disregarding such things and considering yourself above it or something. Still, this is how you come off to me. So allow me to educate you, not all martial arts are all mystical like you seem to believe, okay? Some are used just as weapons, no more, no less. So there is nothing wrong with not seeing martial arts as something spiritual and all about inner peace. If you wanna get into that stuff, there's Tai Chi for you. Other than that, you take whatever you want from it and practice it however you want, but do not say others are lacking for not having the emotional connection with it like you do. Reis Kensukei I do not see this man as offensive one bit. Rather, I find you guys to be ignorant to the question before you. He wants an equal and prideful fight. He sees martial art's as a way of fighting and seeking personal gain and ambition as a means to show himself. Its a means of spiritual guidance and all arts represent it in some way of what they believe. And Also, he isnt saying that people are not as "enlightened" as him. He's stating that he's sad that people have lost their touch and feeling for the art. Now its just become a tool of fighting. Solely, a reliable weapon. Wait..He said he abandoned pride, yet you said he sees it as prideful..It seems you missed the point as well. Besides, as I pointed out before, you guys need to lay off the Eastern mysticism, not all martial arts are about spiritual enlightenment and emotional discovery or anything like that, there's nothing wrong with using it solely as a weapon, means of self-defense, or for sport.
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 10:17 pm
First off my friend,I will once again assure you that my way is neither the right or the wrong.It is not even between.Also you are still missing the point of what I'm trying to say.This is not about me and my good ole 'philosophy being right or wrong whatever.You are seeing it in the wrong light.It is about trying to be true to yourself while fighting.But now i see how it could seem I am belittling because of how I say the technique looks good.But it has no meaning.But like I said I don't mean to do any of that and again like I said you are seeing my concept in the wrong way .And Really we can to on and on about this but...I don't want this get out of hand as it already because from the words you said in that reply of yours,I think that there are more things to discuss that seem to be a little more "different " from my original meaning for making this post.And besides I wanna leave some words to say what is bothering me the most.Just because I have let go of my pride doesn't mean I'm "above " it.So perhaps you shouldn't say anything about something you don't know about.And the thing that bothers me the most is how you go on to say "not all martial arts are mystical ".TELL me how expressing yourself and being earnest to yourself IS MYSTICAL!Or like you say "eastern mysticism".In my opinion I think it isn't.Or am I not getting your point like you seem to not get mine which just requires a little bit more thinking but HEY,oh well.There is nothing more I can say to you because I dislike arguments only because of the fact that its like a rollercoaster going up then down only to go up but then falls down.I guess what you can do is make a post about what you think and I can be you but talk about the complete opposite of what your saying. (Gosh I just cant say away)
But before I go just realize there is nothing wrong about using it as a weapon but there's nothing right either just along with my concept there's nothing wrong about expressing yourself but there's nothing right about it. Cause to me, you shouldn't fight anyway.Unless though someone is in serious trouble.But I'm just posting my Tao all from a life experience.Had a friend who is just like you saying martial arts should be used as a sport and weapon and that I shouldn't listen to what you call eastern mysticism.(however its hard trying to not fight a bully) biggrin arigatou
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