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Is this a theoretical, proxy, online, or otherwise unbudgeted deck? Because, budget wise, it's a stark contrast from your Tariel build. In that thread you mentioned Austere Command as too expensive for you right now and in here you've got Rishadan Port which is like 5 times as expensive and not nearly as good in EDH (not that you shouldn't run Port if you can, but it's not worth $20 in this format, by a long shot.)

Just wondering because I'd make some different recomendations for an unbudgeted deck.

Anyway, these sorts of decks can actually be pretty competitive with a bit of effort. I've never actually met one but I've heard a fair amount about various colorless builds.


On the manabase:

You can definitely switch out a few lands for better options. If you're unbudgeted some of them are much better options.

Lands to switch out:
School of the Unseen, Unstable Frontier, and Archeological Dig all deal with making colored mana and so effectively do nothing.

Crystal Vein and Wintermoon Meas are also pretty much blank. I can't see you ever wanting to sac a land for effects that small in this format. Even with Crucible of Worlds I don't see them being worth it.

God's Eye, and Darksteel Citadel only do anything if they would be destroyed and they don't do a huge amount then. If you're budgeted I'd probably keep them because there aren't any awesome alternatives but if you're not budgeted, there are some awesome alternatives.

Cloudpost may not be worth it. It comes into play tapped and right now you have no way of benefiting from it unless your opponents play it as well.

Lands to switch in:

If you are on a budget
Urza's Factory is a token generator.
Quicksand is removal
Glimmerpost is life gain and will make Cloudpost produce an extra mana
Haunted Fengraf is recursion

If you aren't
You probably still want Factory. Tokens are good.

Ancient Tomb makes 2 mana a pop. The life is worth it.

Strip Mine and Wasteland are just really solid cards. They are potentially abusive with Crucible but even if you draw it and them you don't have to start screwing people over if that's not the kind of game you want to play.

Miren, the Moaning Well and High Market are good ways to make sure your General doesn't get tucked because you are sad if your general gets tucked (and really sad if someone Briberies it on you.)

Tower of the Magistrate is nice for when someone is killing your dudes with Reaper King but it's bucketfuls of fun when someone loads up their creature with equipment and you give it pro artifacts, making it all fall off.

Vesuva is another really fun one. You can grab an extra copy of your own lands, or use someone else's colorless utility land or use it on scary legendary lands (like Urborg) as removal.

Hall of the Bandit Lord gives your guys haste. A hasty Ulamog seems really awesome.

Mishra's Workshop is great in a deck that's mainly artifacts but only for a proxy or online deck where budget really really doesn't matter (cause $300 is a lot for a piece of cardboard no matter how rich you are.)

This has gotten long so I'll post this part and edit it with the rest of my thoughts.

EDIT: You mentioned a lack of creature removal as a problem for this deck. There's a few more options in that regard than what you're running:

Duplicant
Steel Hellkite

Brittle Effigy
Pit Trap
Spine of Ish Sah (Phyrexia's Core makes this repeatable)

Nevinyrral's Disk
Oblivion Stone

The latter two are absurdly good with Darksteel Forge.

Blinkmoth Urn is silly mana for this deck.

Mind Stone is better than Coldsteel Heart.

Expedition Map seems worth it given the number of different things your manabase can potentially do.

Spawnsire of Ulamog seems good, even if you can't use the 20 mana ability.

Unwinding Clock pretty much lets you take your opponents turns as well as your turn.

Planar Portal is good.

It looks like you need some drawing. Mind's Eye is always a good option and you have the mana to support Tower of Fortunes.

Are you going for some sort of combo with the sac outlets and Summoning Station and Lifeline? I don't see anything infinite, do you think it's worth devoting the slots to?

Edited to include almost all the cards ELW suggested, plus Mycosynth Lattice, Mycosynth Golem, and Shimmer Myr (One to make everything more compatible with Darksteel forge, Golem to make things even cheaper than they already are, and Shimmer Myr will basically work like Vedalken Orrery.)

Everyone that plays around here plays some kind of mass land-destruction -_-
Ruination, Decree of Annihilation, and Desolation Angel are played often here. It sucks.

What about replacing Springjack Pasture or Gargoyle Castle with Ancient Tomb?

And I think I will proxy it.

O-Stone is still ridiculously good, basically saying "Destroy all non-land permanents opponents control"

With 99 card slots and 1 of each card I am extremely comfortable saying that there is room for both.

Also, Stone hits targets that Disk does not, can be used the turn it is played, and can save permanents without assistance from Forge.

With original text? As in pre errata? Generally, cards were errataed for a reason.

In the case of Lifeline the errata seems to have been an attempt to clear up a confusing piece of gametext.

Lifeline's ability triggers "whenever a creature is put into a graveyard" and the return effect references "that creature" so taking "your" to mean "only the controller of lifeline" is inconsistent with the rest of the card.

My take is that, back in Urza's saga, the text of global effects sometimes "spoke" to every player and so the "your" refers to the controller of "that creature."

Later in the game "your" was redefined to specifically refer to the controller of the card in question which meant that cards like Lifeline needed errata to preserve their original function (Lifeline's errata also clears up a number of other antiquated wordings, like clarifying that the creature enters under its owner's control.)

In support of this position, I know that the Ferret, who was playing magic when lifeline came out, had a Lifeline deck and always spoke of the card returning all creatures.

In any case, while I'd be ok with the multiplayer house rule on Master Warcraft, I'm not comfortable with having lifeline be a one sided effect. If you want a one sided lifeline you can play Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker.

Ward of Bones seems very playable for this deck, though I don't think it would do anything to stop Zur since he doesn't "play" the enchantments, he just puts them on the battlefield.

EDIT: some googling on Lifeline has dug up additional support for the idea that it was always intended to be a symmetrical effect. Apparently it is also considered one of the most poorly worded cards in MTG history.

Discussions Here, and here.

Also, would Krark-Clan Ironworks be worth running? If Lifeline is out, I can just sacrifice a ton of creatures for it, and hopefully be good by the time my turn ends.