[15:03] sjkretschmer: Also, I had a works of glory idea I wanted to run past you
[15:03] Hyveris: hm?
[15:04] sjkretschmer: Both are sort of story type things. One is an aoide goes out and buys gardening tools for the goddess, which I would draw, the other would go out and buy some plants that I would also draw. Don't know if they would work but I thought I'd ask.
[15:07] Hyveris: I woudl say relate the tools and plants to respective symboks of Valli
[15:07] Hyveris: as outlined here
[15:07] Hyveris:
http://www.gaiaonline.com/guilds/viewtopic.php?t=12125245[15:08] sjkretschmer: Alright. (: I'll think on it. :3
[15:13] Hyveris: So they can still be mundane tools/plants that the aoide go to get her
[15:13] Hyveris: not the original ones she once bore
[15:14] Hyveris: but it would be neat and pertinent if they were of the same sort of object, even if they were the boring modern variety you find at a hardware store
[15:14] sjkretschmer: :3
[17:24] sjkretschmer: You are up late/early.
[17:25] Hyveris: yup! doing homework
[17:25] sjkretschmer: ugh homework
[17:26] Hyveris: lol
[17:26] sjkretschmer: unless it's fun homework?
[17:27] Hyveris: It isn't super exciting, but I like it well enough
[18:12] sjkretschmer: I think, garden tool wise, I'm going to go with a watering can, a trowel and a pair of pruning shears. I want to include a couple of others, but there might at some stage be a male counterpart for Plant, so I don't want to have a monopoly on it. XD;;
[18:24] Hyveris: So she's focussing on domestic plants/gardening?
[18:24] sjkretschmer: I'm not sure
[18:26] sjkretschmer: I mean, Plants is her domain, so garden plants are an aspect of it, but there's also trees, wilder things, but I don't want to dominate things if that makes sense? But I don't want to back myself into a corner either. XD;;;;
[18:27] Hyveris: Considering there's two of every domain, it does leave room for each to specialize
[18:27] sjkretschmer: True
[18:28] Hyveris: not that they have no sway in the other, but that they lean towards one aspect
[18:28] Hyveris: which has been true for a couple of the gods already in play
[18:28] Hyveris: as the first owner of Plant
[18:28] Hyveris: you get the choice
[18:28] Hyveris: There have been plenty of other custom opportunities, if someone wanted plant, they could have gotten one
[18:29] Hyveris: first come, first serve
[18:29] Hyveris: and then you can work with someone should they ever get teh 2nd
[18:29] sjkretschmer: I mean, she'd definitely have a connection with all plants, flowers, trees, crops, grass, etc.
[18:29] Hyveris: splitting it as domestic / wild is a fun and interesting dynamic
[18:29] Hyveris: very Entish
[18:29] Hyveris: like the Ents and the Ent wives
[18:29] Hyveris: and why they lived apart
[18:30] sjkretschmer: I do like the idea of the domestic side, like keeping everything nice and orderly. Maybe she liked to create/maintain mini trees/bonsai
[18:31] sjkretschmer: I like to imagine in her past life she had a greenhouse full of everything and everything. Maybe with the domestic side everything was very ordered/maintained.
[18:31] sjkretschmer: but then again I've always seen her personality as a bit wild. XD;;;
[18:32] sjkretschmer: hope you don't mind the idea bouncing
[18:39] Hyveris: I don't mind at all
[18:39] Hyveris: sometimes that's how peopel works stuff out best
[18:44] sjkretschmer: mythology is fun to discuss
[18:47] sjkretschmer: It would be cool if she had, say a miniature version/cultivation of the world tree
[18:47] sjkretschmer: too many ideas. XD Must concentrate on deciding domestic or wild
[18:54] Hyveris: rofl
[18:54] Hyveris: bonsai kishara?
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[18:59] sjkretschmer: XD
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[19:02] sjkretschmer: Domestic it is I think. :3
[19:29] sjkretschmer: so I guess, garden tools, bonsai, potted plants, gardens in general, floral arrangements, ladybugs would all work? XD;
[19:30] sjkretschmer: are some of them too general? Perhaps I should give her a favorite flower/tree
[19:30] Hyveris: specifics are good for symbols
[19:31] Hyveris: like Athena and the Owl
[19:31] sjkretschmer: Yeah
[19:31] Hyveris: Or Zeus and the Eagle and Thunderbolt
[19:32] sjkretschmer: animalwise I couldn't think of anything besides ladybugs, since most others are pests
[19:32] Hyveris: something that worshippers would have notices were favorite inplements of teh god and have come to associate with the god and therefore use in worship of them
[19:32] sjkretschmer: they're plant protectors in a way, eating the aphids
[19:32] Hyveris: Ladybugs are helpful
[19:32] Hyveris: honeybees
[19:33] Hyveris: In ....africa? I think it is ....there's a type of ant that is not considered a pest
[19:33] Hyveris: Mantids are considered helpful and lucky
[19:34] sjkretschmer: tools I think will be the watering can, the trowel and the secateurs
[19:34] Hyveris: there's also butterflies, while wil welcome are mostly ornamental
[19:34] Hyveris: or moths
[19:34] sjkretschmer: all true. So much to think about. Is possible to have too many?
[19:34] Hyveris: lol
[19:35] Hyveris: if you looked at the thread - So if you are planning on playing with this aspect of the game, my solution is that you have to choose ad write up a bio that states what your deity's primary aspects are (at least 3), what their symbols are, and the stick to it.
[19:36] Hyveris: probably don't want to go beyond 6
[19:36] Hyveris: as mortals are pretty simple creatures
[19:36] sjkretschmer: Mmmm
[19:38] sjkretschmer: just because they aren't a symbol, doesn't mean she can't associate with them? The symbols are just what most associate with the god?
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[19:41] sjkretschmer: So maybe Watering can, trowel, secateurs, ladybugs, bonsai, and some sort of flower. Perhaps a daisy, a fox glove, a sunflower?
[19:41] Hyveris: sure
[19:43] sjkretschmer: Cool
[19:45] sjkretschmer: thanks for the help. n__n
[19:49] sjkretschmer: Should probably start brainstorming things for Lunn. XD
[19:53] Hyveris: lol
[19:53] Hyveris: at least a host, anyway
[19:54] sjkretschmer: I think I'm just going to use the host that I entered the contest with
[19:54] Hyveris: you'll need a way to come into possession of the gem as well
[19:55] sjkretschmer: Yes, I had an idea but I wasn't sure if it would work
[19:56] sjkretschmer: I was thinking something to do with a lion spirit giving it to him, as lions are considered a symbol of strength and may have been a loyal creature to him in the past
[19:56] sjkretschmer: but I know that Harmy mostly keeps them locked away.
[19:58] Hyveris: there'vev been a variety of ways to get teh gem
[19:58] Hyveris: being given it by a friend/family member as a gift (they didn't know what it was other than a pretty rock)
[19:59] Hyveris: being given it by a former servant could work
[19:59] sjkretschmer: Cool, so the lion spirit is perhaps not as far fetched as I thought it might be
[19:59] Hyveris: nope
[20:02] Hyveris: Some ideas : it's probably less a 'spirit' and more a type of ageless immortal creature that acts like a totem. a race of ethereal beings
[20:03] Hyveris: at least somewhere in the writing there should be hints that someone gave teh edelsteine jewel to the lion (ie: harmodius or one of his servants). This doesn't have to be glaring obvious, just present in some sense
[20:04] Hyveris: Though -when- the jewel was given over could have been many many years ago. Still long after the fading, but certainly centuries are unheard of. It can have been recently handed over, too. Whichever you prefer
[20:04] Hyveris: aren'T unheard of
[20:04] Hyveris: I can type
[20:05] Hyveris: really
[20:05] sjkretschmer: haha, no it all sounds good. so not necessarly a lion, but more perhaps a lionlike species of immortal, like the dactyls?
[20:11] sjkretschmer: maybe... a lion/bear/hybrid creature, a species created by the old strength with the aid of forge and animals, combining three of his favorite creatures into the one.
[20:12] sjkretschmer: a bit random but could be interesting.
[20:12] sjkretschmer: +eagle I meant to say
[20:12] sjkretschmer: as well
[20:17] sjkretschmer: could be a fun quest to do down the line, bringing them back to the Pantheon or something. Kind of like what Tlac is doing with his horses.
[20:19] sjkretschmer: but I'm getting way ahead of myself
[20:22] Hyveris: lol
[20:23] Hyveris: you should write down he ideas for later in a notebook though
[20:23] Hyveris: or a word file
[20:23] Hyveris: its useful to have inspiration
[20:23] Hyveris: and have it squirreled away to fall back on at other points when you might be too tired to come up with stuff but want to blow off steam with writing
[20:23] sjkretschmer: Yes. :3
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