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 Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:35 pm
Ok kids, do I have a proposition for YOU!!!
Alrigh, so here's what I was wondering. Considering that (despite their cooler toys, more entertaining personalities, and insatiable bloodlust) Chaos Space Marines are, still, Space marines, would it be possible to convert normally Space-Marine-only units to use in a Chaos Army? And I don't mean HQ's, I mean average units that don't show up in the Chaos Codex. Like, y'know, Landspeeders?
Basically, I want to put a Landspeeder in my Chaos Army. I know the canon-storyline says landspeeders were invented post-heresy, but that shouldn't stop a Chaos Warband from raiding a Space Marine chapter, stealing a Landspeeder, and - through trial-and-error - learn how to operate the thing! I mean, they both have other vehicles which are shared (i.e., Rhinos, Land Raiders, Bikes, etc.), so who says a Chaos Landspeeder is an impossibility?
So I'm asking all of you if you all think I could get away with taking a Landspeeder model, converting it to a Chaos Speeder, and use that in my army without being accused of cheating or anything. Do you all think I could get away with that safely, and use it multiple times?
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:59 am
According to the fluff Land Speeders were refound and put into production after the Horus Heresy. As such, CSM do not have access to it currently. What they get in 5th(6th?) edition remains to be seen. I'm personally hoping for more daemon engines and the Chaos Daemons being put back into their codex.
Personally I wouldn't mind, you could just go check in the Imperial Armour books to see if one of their army lists allow for it. The Astral Claws, a separatist SM chapter, probably have it. I haven't gone through the full army list.
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:00 pm
Ryuondo According to the fluff Land Speeders were refound and put into production after the Horus Heresy. As such, CSM do not have access to it currently. What they get in 5th(6th?) edition remains to be seen. I'm personally hoping for more daemon engines and the Chaos Daemons being put back into their codex. Personally I wouldn't mind, you could just go check in the Imperial Armour books to see if one of their army lists allow for it. The Astral Claws, a separatist SM chapter, probably have it. I haven't gone through the full army list. Yeh, I know the fluff says the Landspeeders were made after, but as I said, there's nothing that says a Chaos Warband couldn't steal a Loyalist Chapter's Landspeeder and learn how to operate it. I just wanna know if I can use it in a game without being accused of cheating, cuz I really want to have a Landspeeder in my Chaos Army. :3 Imperial Armour? Haven't heard of it... Yeah! Perfect example! ^^
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:17 pm
is there not a thing where you can use heros and custom characters and armour as long as you state what it can do so if you take a chaos landspeeder and say it was stolen and uses against a loyalist chapter heck you could probably make a scenario on it
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:42 am
Tenchi Misaki1 is there not a thing where you can use heros and custom characters and armour as long as you state what it can do so if you take a chaos landspeeder and say it was stolen and uses against a loyalist chapter heck you could probably make a scenario on it Huh...don' usually try campaign- or role play-based gameplay, but that might work! ^^ And besides, If it doesn't work, I can always trade for something with this space marine player I know. Maybe I can get a Rhino or something from him! ^^
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:11 pm
1292 Negative Calculate Tenchi Misaki1 is there not a thing where you can use heros and custom characters and armour as long as you state what it can do so if you take a chaos landspeeder and say it was stolen and uses against a loyalist chapter heck you could probably make a scenario on it Huh...don' usually try campaign- or role play-based gameplay, but that might work! ^^ And besides, If it doesn't work, I can always trade for something with this space marine player I know. Maybe I can get a Rhino or something from him! ^^ Hopefully you sort something out biggrin
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:54 am
Special mission. Just make a scenario up.
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:59 pm
Ryuondo Special mission. Just make a scenario up. yeah as Ryuo said best way to do it so you can use it biggrin
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 8:13 am
cheese_whine Ryuondo Special mission. Just make a scenario up. I know I could use it that way, but I'm asking if I can use it in a regular battle. Like as a regular unit. I'd like to have a Landspeeder in my Chaos army, and be able to battle regularly with it without being accused of cheating. My reasoning is, since Chaos marines are still technically space marines, it should be possible to include space marine units in a chaos army. Like how the rhino can be used by space marines, chaos, AND battle sisters. It's only fair, right?
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:32 pm
It's not a unit in the Chaos Codex so no. You wouldn't be able to use it as a regular unit. A rhino is usable among all three because it's in each of their codices. In 3rd edition you could use units from other codices. Like the Iron Warriors was the only legion capable of using the Vindicator and could use an I.G. basilisk. The Witch Hunters and Daemon Hunters could be used by Space Marines and IG. The 4th Edition Chaos codex is pretty shitty, IMO, but in order to use it you have to have it in your codex, which it is not. So without special missions, its no bueno.
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:45 pm
Ryuondo It's not a unit in the Chaos Codex so no. You wouldn't be able to use it as a regular unit. A rhino is usable among all three because it's in each of their codices. In 3rd edition you could use units from other codices. Like the Iron Warriors was the only legion capable of using the Vindicator and could use an I.G. basilisk. The Witch Hunters and Daemon Hunters could be used by Space Marines and IG. The 4th Edition Chaos codex is pretty shitty, IMO, but in order to use it you have to have it in your codex, which it is not. So without special missions, its no bueno. Darn. Then I just wasted my monies. Hm...well, I can always trade it with that other Space Marine player I know. Maybe I can exchange it for a Predator, or a couple of bikes? I just wanted a Landspeeder, cuz I prefer cars over bikes. Lol
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:16 pm
You can use it as a display piece. I think a Thousand Son themed Landspeeder would be pretty boss as a display. It's also, not like you cant just proxy a marine army from time to time with your chaos army. If you don't play at a GW store that is. Cause they're nazi's about proxying. I do it all the time. Its kinda lulzy seeing some Khorne Berzerkers running down the field as Grey Knights.
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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:37 am
Ryuondo You can use it as a display piece. I think a Thousand Son themed Landspeeder would be pretty boss as a display. It's also, not like you cant just proxy a marine army from time to time with your chaos army. If you don't play at a GW store that is. Cause they're nazi's about proxying. I do it all the time. Its kinda lulzy seeing some Khorne Berzerkers running down the field as Grey Knights. Hm...well, maybe I could try that. I mean, I usually don't use the figurines as display (plus the fact that I have terrible painting skills), but I can see how that'd work. I don't have gold paint, tho, and I'm lacking in Thousand Son pieces, so it might cost some to put it together and paint it...but still, nice idea. And I actually already have a sort of proxy in my army. I painted a Chaos Posessed model, and I'm using that as my Daemon Prince. It's not that I can't afford a Prince model, it's just...I think it's a pretty funny joke, seeing a tiny Prince on the battlefield. And of course, he'd have a bit of a Napoleon complex. XD Oh, here's an idea! Chaos Daemons have a codex, right? So if one wanted to use Chaos daemons in their army, then they'd need to buy a Daemon codex to use with their Chaos codex, right? So what if I ought a Space Marine codex, and used that to include the Chaos Landspeeder? Would that work? I mean, sure the unit wouldn't be in a chaos codex, but if you had the unit's codex, could you still include it in your army?
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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:09 pm
1292 Negative Calculate Ryuondo You can use it as a display piece. I think a Thousand Son themed Landspeeder would be pretty boss as a display. It's also, not like you cant just proxy a marine army from time to time with your chaos army. If you don't play at a GW store that is. Cause they're nazi's about proxying. I do it all the time. Its kinda lulzy seeing some Khorne Berzerkers running down the field as Grey Knights. Hm...well, maybe I could try that. I mean, I usually don't use the figurines as display (plus the fact that I have terrible painting skills), but I can see how that'd work. I don't have gold paint, tho, and I'm lacking in Thousand Son pieces, so it might cost some to put it together and paint it...but still, nice idea. And I actually already have a sort of proxy in my army. I painted a Chaos Posessed model, and I'm using that as my Daemon Prince. It's not that I can't afford a Prince model, it's just...I think it's a pretty funny joke, seeing a tiny Prince on the battlefield. And of course, he'd have a bit of a Napoleon complex. XD Oh, here's an idea! Chaos Daemons have a codex, right? So if one wanted to use Chaos daemons in their army, then they'd need to buy a Daemon codex to use with their Chaos codex, right? So what if I ought a Space Marine codex, and used that to include the Chaos Landspeeder? Would that work? I mean, sure the unit wouldn't be in a chaos codex, but if you had the unit's codex, could you still include it in your army? The Chaos "daemons" have their own white washed entry in the Chaos Codex.
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:14 am
Ryuondo 1292 Negative Calculate Ryuondo You can use it as a display piece. I think a Thousand Son themed Landspeeder would be pretty boss as a display. It's also, not like you cant just proxy a marine army from time to time with your chaos army. If you don't play at a GW store that is. Cause they're nazi's about proxying. I do it all the time. Its kinda lulzy seeing some Khorne Berzerkers running down the field as Grey Knights. Hm...well, maybe I could try that. I mean, I usually don't use the figurines as display (plus the fact that I have terrible painting skills), but I can see how that'd work. I don't have gold paint, tho, and I'm lacking in Thousand Son pieces, so it might cost some to put it together and paint it...but still, nice idea. And I actually already have a sort of proxy in my army. I painted a Chaos Posessed model, and I'm using that as my Daemon Prince. It's not that I can't afford a Prince model, it's just...I think it's a pretty funny joke, seeing a tiny Prince on the battlefield. And of course, he'd have a bit of a Napoleon complex. XD Oh, here's an idea! Chaos Daemons have a codex, right? So if one wanted to use Chaos daemons in their army, then they'd need to buy a Daemon codex to use with their Chaos codex, right? So what if I ought a Space Marine codex, and used that to include the Chaos Landspeeder? Would that work? I mean, sure the unit wouldn't be in a chaos codex, but if you had the unit's codex, could you still include it in your army? The Chaos "daemons" have their own white washed entry in the Chaos Codex. Yes, but I've seen chaos players who use both codexes for their armies. Both Daemon codex and CSM codex. Point is, if I had the Space Marine codex as well as the CSM codex, could I then use the Landspeeder in my CSM army?
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