some people on the internet spend waaaay too much time bashing on bands for every little thing, i've always wondered why do they spend so much time downtalking a band they don't like? If you go on urban dictionary pretty much every band you type in (some more than others) have a bunch of haters going on about how much the band sucks, and i've always wndered why they put forth that much effort to do so? And if anyone's seen amanda on youtube, i swear she must have no freaking life whatsoever.... also on the arguement about whether a band is punk real punk or poser punk and all that, it's getting pretty old seeing the same argument just about everywhere (thankfully not within the guild) but my opinion on that, i think punk is a really broad term and can be taken alot of different ways, if you look at the homepage honestly there's a ton of subgenres. There's no real just "punk" its all subgenres within the term. Well thats how I view it anyways. Just thought I'd spark a conversation