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 Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:38 pm
Guy's I just wanna share this or I think I really want to know why does santa is being the symbol of christmas when we all know that Jesus is the reason of why we celebrating this kind of day. But as we can all see that even the kids are known santa than Jesus Christ. I'm even wondering how in the world did they make a story like this santa claus when santa is the late St. Nicholas a archbishop who likes to give toys to children. But how did they create such a story like a flying raindeer and he lives in northpole that was so unbelievable, right?
So guy's pls. share your thoughts or share how did they make this story up....
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:42 pm
All holidays have been changed or "edited" so those who are not Christians can celebrate them too.
Its a sad fact.
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:55 pm
I think that the earliest reference to base it on was Bishop Nicholas of Smyrna (Turkey), somewhere during the 4th century. He had money, liked to help the poor, and liked kids. It was said that he would give presents to poor children by throwing things in their windows. He was later made a patron saint of children and sailors. After his legend spread, it became one of the great 'fish stories' of all time. lol Especially after it came to America.
Anon. Mosh
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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:03 am
I agree with Miss D. Society has changed Christian holidays to "fit" the non-Christian mode. Our society bases success on how many material things you have and how much money you have in the bank. Christans build up their goods in Heaven and share what they have as the Bible tells us too. Christmas has become for many a spendinng frenzy and it would make my heart ache if not for the fact that MOST, not all, of my loved ones DO know the true meaning of CHRISTmas. Love,peace and blessings to you ALL.
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StrongGirlBong-Soon Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:37 am
Miss DaMeanor All holidays have been changed or "edited" so those who are not Christians can celebrate them too. Its a sad fact. Well the only thing that we can glad of the things are right now is that we shared some holy meaning with them but it supposedly but they don't look at it as the way it should be, right? It really is the a sad fact... Advance Merry Christmas!!! heart
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Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:41 am
Anonymous Mosh I think that the earliest reference to base it on was Bishop Nicholas of Smyrna (Turkey), somewhere during the 4th century. He had money, liked to help the poor, and liked kids. It was said that he would give presents to poor children by throwing things in their windows. He was later made a patron saint of children and sailors. After his legend spread, it became one of the great 'fish stories' of all time. lol Especially after it came to America. Anon. Mosh Oh so St. Nicholas is from Turkey I haven't known that. Seriously throwing things at their window wow its more realistic than having flying raindeers and going through a chimney.. Advance Merry Christmas!!! heart
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Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:46 am
pixiequeen31 I agree with Miss D. Society has changed Christian holidays to "fit" the non-Christian mode. Our society bases success on how many material things you have and how much money you have in the bank. Christans build up their goods in Heaven and share what they have as the Bible tells us too. Christmas has become for many a spendinng frenzy and it would make my heart ache if not for the fact that MOST, not all, of my loved ones DO know the true meaning of CHRISTmas. Love,peace and blessings to you ALL. heart heart heart So true the real meaning of CHRIStmas has gone it really is annoying how people easily forget about the savior who saves us all from the punishment of the Almighty.... Advance Merry Christmas!!! heart
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Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:37 am
Clyry_Rockaddict pixiequeen31 I agree with Miss D. Society has changed Christian holidays to "fit" the non-Christian mode. Our society bases success on how many material things you have and how much money you have in the bank. Christans build up their goods in Heaven and share what they have as the Bible tells us too. Christmas has become for many a spendinng frenzy and it would make my heart ache if not for the fact that MOST, not all, of my loved ones DO know the true meaning of CHRISTmas. Love,peace and blessings to you ALL. heart heart heart So true the real meaning of CHRIStmas has gone it really is annoying how people easily forget about the savior who saves us all from the punishment of the Almighty.... Advance Merry Christmas!!! heart Thanks sooo very much! Merry Christmas to you too! heart heart heart
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Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:51 am
Clyry_Rockaddict Anonymous Mosh I think that the earliest reference to base it on was Bishop Nicholas of Smyrna (Turkey), somewhere during the 4th century. He had money, liked to help the poor, and liked kids. It was said that he would give presents to poor children by throwing things in their windows. He was later made a patron saint of children and sailors. After his legend spread, it became one of the great 'fish stories' of all time. lol Especially after it came to America. Anon. Mosh Oh so St. Nicholas is from Turkey I haven't known that. Seriously throwing things at their window wow its more realistic than having flying raindeers and going through a chimney.. Advance Merry Christmas!!! heart Yeah, it was in about the 4th century. He was just doing what we are all supposed to do - give, take care of the poor, and make sure that we get God's Word out. But he did it so much, that they made him a saint and named a church after him. I want to be like that. lol (just do what I need to. Not the saint stuff. No way. lol No spotlights for me) Merry Christmas, and God bless. smile Anon. Mosh
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:07 pm
Anonymous Mosh Clyry_Rockaddict Anonymous Mosh I think that the earliest reference to base it on was Bishop Nicholas of Smyrna (Turkey), somewhere during the 4th century. He had money, liked to help the poor, and liked kids. It was said that he would give presents to poor children by throwing things in their windows. He was later made a patron saint of children and sailors. After his legend spread, it became one of the great 'fish stories' of all time. lol Especially after it came to America. Anon. Mosh Oh so St. Nicholas is from Turkey I haven't known that. Seriously throwing things at their window wow its more realistic than having flying raindeers and going through a chimney.. Advance Merry Christmas!!! heart Yeah, it was in about the 4th century. He was just doing what we are all supposed to do - give, take care of the poor, and make sure that we get God's Word out. But he did it so much, that they made him a saint and named a church after him. I want to be like that. lol (just do what I need to. Not the saint stuff. No way. lol No spotlights for me) Merry Christmas, and God bless. smile Anon. Mosh Yeah you're right I don't like having all the attention too.. It felt awkward... heart
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:49 am
I think you are right. Santa isn't the reason the season, Jesus is. That's what some people are used to because its been like this for years. But yes, I believe all that you are saying. Reindeers? Elves? They aren't real and not the reason. I think everyone should know this! biggrin
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:45 pm
Princess Kaiulani I think you are right. Santa isn't the reason the season, Jesus is. That's what some people are used to because its been like this for years. But yes, I believe all that you are saying. Reindeers? Elves? They aren't real and not the reason. I think everyone should know this! biggrin Precisely I don't know why. But the thing is they should somewhat give the little children some trivia or let them know that Jesus is the real meaning of christmas and that he is our savior the one who sacrifice himself for all of us sinner. 3nodding
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:06 pm
I think the basis of all of this can be brought back to the original intent, retaining the integrity of the holiday, without the extra stress and junk that goes with it. There are far too many people that just don't want to give it up, especially the gifts and parties. God said that fellowship is important, and glorifying in His name. But there are some parties that we don't have to attend, and maybe not so many. He says to give. But what are we giving? And who are we giving it to? We can still give to our family and friends, and help those who need it. But we don't have to go into debt to do it, and there are some things that aren't given as God intended - from the heart. We can sing and dance. There's a time and a place for everything, and this is on the list. The decorations? That's an individual preference, I guess. I personally like the lights, but I don't want to put them up. I like some of the victorian era decor, but it gets to be too much after a while. I have a manger scene in my office. That's all I have room for, but I always have room for Christ (at this inn, the proprietor might throw everybody else out if need be, especially if they're too rowdy after a long day. lol). God also wants us to get the Word out to people. But we know that we can't change almost 2000 years of sociological behavior (although God can do anything, and will soon enough).
However, we can make it so that it doesn't have to be that big of a transition. All we have to do when considering whether or not we want to keep a tradition is - does it glorify God, and keep Him first and foremost? Is it something that Christ would do? Does it keep with the Word of God? How important is it to keep? There are a lot that are just too hard to let go of. Maybe some of them don't really have to go. Just as long as we remember why we do them, and why we want to continue them. And really, these are things that we're supposed to do every day.
So I will have dinner with my children, give them each a little something, do something for the rest of the world, and sit an look at my manger scene when I need a quiet place. Read some of the stories again. And that's more than enough for me. lol
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 7:08 am
Anonymous Mosh I think the basis of all of this can be brought back to the original intent, retaining the integrity of the holiday, without the extra stress and junk that goes with it. There are far too many people that just don't want to give it up, especially the gifts and parties. God said that fellowship is important, and glorifying in His name. But there are some parties that we don't have to attend, and maybe not so many. He says to give. But what are we giving? And who are we giving it to? We can still give to our family and friends, and help those who need it. But we don't have to go into debt to do it, and there are some things that aren't given as God intended - from the heart. We can sing and dance. There's a time and a place for everything, and this is on the list. The decorations? That's an individual preference, I guess. I personally like the lights, but I don't want to put them up. I like some of the victorian era decor, but it gets to be too much after a while. I have a manger scene in my office. That's all I have room for, but I always have room for Christ (at this inn, the proprietor might throw everybody else out if need be, especially if they're too rowdy after a long day. lol). God also wants us to get the Word out to people. But we know that we can't change almost 2000 years of sociological behavior (although God can do anything, and will soon enough). However, we can make it so that it doesn't have to be that big of a transition. All we have to do when considering whether or not we want to keep a tradition is - does it glorify God, and keep Him first and foremost? Is it something that Christ would do? Does it keep with the Word of God? How important is it to keep? There are a lot that are just too hard to let go of. Maybe some of them don't really have to go. Just as long as we remember why we do them, and why we want to continue them. And really, these are things that we're supposed to do every day. So I will have dinner with my children, give them each a little something, do something for the rest of the world, and sit an look at my manger scene when I need a quiet place. Read some of the stories again. And that's more than enough for me. lol You are absolutely right w just hav to remember that we celebrate this season because of our savior Jesus chirst..... But we have to accept the fact that all people remember his b-day and why do we celebrate this day. heart MAY GOD BLESS YOU ALWAYS!!!!!
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 3:59 pm
When walking around down a street for about half an hour, there was a total of 125 santas on sight. I only saw two scenes of the nativity that night. That is truly sad ...
The santa we know was first drawn by Thomas Nast in 1863. His suit was later changed to red and white to promote Cocoa-Cola.
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