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 Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 7:27 pm
I'm taking the liberty of putting these two episodes in a discussion thread together since they were back to back and they are practically going to run all together in our heads anyway.
So discussion for the Season Six finale episodes here.
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 7:35 pm
Okay...my head's spinning right now I am just so mad at a lot of things..
Ben and Lisa dont remember Dean. I wanted to cry. sad
Then all the betrayal and backstabbing. Luv and props to Balty for working with the boys despite it all, but then Cas killed him!! gonk
Most of all, they completely screw up Cas' character. He just takes Sam's wall away, just like that. scream And now he's all hopped up on souls and has a deity complex and he's just plain scary.
What have they done!? crying crying
How on earth are they gonna get him back from that. No wonder the 7th season plot line says the boys are completely alone now. They just made Cas the big bad next season. stare
I have to say, Sam was such a trooper pushing through like that and getting out of his head. But now he's gonna be messed up, he remembers hell!
Ugg i'm frustrated. Everything ended on a bad horrible note.
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 7:38 pm
MY MIND IS ******** BLOWN...
I'm going Supernatural blackout.
That is all.
emo
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 7:42 pm
I CANNOT EVEN BREATHE RIGHT NOW. OKAY. HERE GOES.
• Lisa and Ben having their memories wiped was absolutely heartbreaking. There's nothing more to it, it was just so heartbreaking. But I guess they're better off now, and it was probably the best thing they could have done.
• Cas. Oh dear god where do I even begin. Okay, seriously, I get that he always helped Dean out and everything and I do love Cas. And I know he wanted the boys to back off and stand down, but breaking down Sam's wall? Killing Balthazar? That is not the Cas we know. Watching the scenes in 6x21 where he's practically begging Dean for forgiveness is absolutely heartbreaking, and I was screaming at my laptop telling Dean just to forgive him. (Seriously, Dean should have just gave him a damn hug and told him everything would be alright and thanked him once in a while). But now that Cas is the "new god"... he's not Cas! He's not the Cas we know at all, and it's quite scary and I hate what they've done to him. He is just completely high off his power and dare I say it, what has happened to him is probably one hundred times worse than him actually dying.
• However, and please note that this is probably an extremely unpopular opinion; but after watching the whole finale, I'm actually more concerned with Sam. Sam is my only cliffhanger of the finale. I want to know if he's completely okay - but I can sense that he's not going to be okay at all. We all seen the complete mess that was Hell!Sam, and now that Sam has all of that knowledge, he's going to be completely corrupted. I want to know what he remembers and I want to know if he's going to be okay. Dean was a complete mess after Hell, after what he remembered. But Sam's experience of Hell was one hundred times worse; he was stuck down in Lucifer's cage. With Lucifer and Michael. So, yeah, probably an unpopular opinion, but I'm mostly concerned with Sam now.
• THE FREAKING IMPALA THOUGH TOO.
• I loved the scenes inside Sam's head. Jared is just such an A+ actor.
• I just want season 7 right now please.
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 7:49 pm
All of that being said though; I still maintain that Cas hate is just a no. Because this new Cas, this new god Cas, is not the Cas we know and love. He did what he thought was right and he just kind of lost control towards the end. Somehow, someway, I don't think it'll be forever.
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 7:51 pm
This is what happens when no one hugs Castiel.
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 7:55 pm
Alright, how can I say this as nicely as possible......... ok First episode? Amazing. It was heart-pounding, interesting, action-packed, tear-jerking and still had good character dynamic. Second part though? How can I word this, let's see..... s**t. Yup. That sums it up. Just... s**t. Or this word 2) Balthazar dying. WHY DO ALL THE GOOD CHARACTERS HAVE TO DIE IN THIS ******** SHOW, BUT CRAP CHARACTERS LIKE RUBY AND ANNA GET TO PRANCE AROUND FOR SEASONS??? *breathes* At least they left Crowley still kicking thank..... well I won't thank him... which brings me to my next point. 3) Cas as God makes no ******** sense. A angel cannot become God. God is God. The end. This is like saying someone can become Fate. Or Death (ok, Dean did, but for one friggin day and it wasn't even real). Or a horseman. These things are set in stone. Cas is not God. He's just really ******** powerful. So he thinks he's God. BUT HE'S NOT ******** GOD. Good ******** Chuck, please step back in the picture and kick the holy out of Cas' a**. 4. THEY ACTUALLY ******** DID IT. THEY MADE CAS THE ******** VILLIAN FOR SEASON 7. How could the writers stoop this low? HOW. This is, pardon my french because I hate using this word, but, this is retarded. There. Had to say it. That's how much I hate this move. I mean THIS IS ******** CAS. THIS -->  The same guy who terrified of women for Christ's sake. THIS -->  Who uses friggin QUOTEY FINGERS INCORRECTLY. THIS!!!! -->  I MEAN WHO THE ******** ARE THEY KIDDING??? THIS IS CAS FOR ******** SAKES!! HE'S NOT POWER HUNGRY! HE'S NEVER BEEN!! How can the writers just completely 180 his his personality just to continue the show??? ARE YOU ******** SERIOUS?? This is a new low. It's lame, it's a slap in the face to all the fans who adored him and what he brought to the show, and a damn shame because I know it's gonna chase a lot of people away. And I'm one of them. I'll try the show in season 7, see if they decided to knock Cas down a peg and fix him. If they don't...if they just make him the enemy that the boys have to destroy well then.... Goodbye. It was fun while it lasted, and I'll enjoy the memories the show gave me (and of course I will still be in here) but I won't watch the show anymore. It's dead to me. Whatever magic it had... it lost it when it began season 6. The whole season has been a disaster from start to finish. It's had some good moments, but it's had a awful lot of bad ones too. And I can't keep ignoring all the BS the show keeps pumping out emo
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 7:57 pm
Angeladr7 Okay...my head's spinning right now I am just so mad at a lot of things..
Ben and Lisa dont remember Dean. I wanted to cry. sad
Then all the betrayal and backstabbing. Luv and props to Balty for working with the boys despite it all, but then Cas killed him!! gonk
Most of all, they completely screw up Cas' character. He just takes Sam's wall away, just like that. scream And now he's all hopped up on souls and has a deity complex and he's just plain scary.
What have they done!? crying crying
How on earth are they gonna get him back from that. No wonder the 7th season plot line says the boys are completely alone now. They just made Cas the big bad next season. stare
I have to say, Sam was such a trooper pushing through like that and getting out of his head. But now he's gonna be messed up, he remembers hell!
Ugg i'm frustrated. Everything ended on a bad horrible note.
Agreed stare
I also hated what they did with Lisa and Ben. I mean, what about when they get home and see all the pictures and stuff of Dean? Or did Cas get rid of all that too? Hope so or they're gonna be real confused lol. Meh *sigh*
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 8:02 pm
nerdy chick with wings All of that being said though; I still maintain that Cas hate is just a no. Because this new Cas, this new god Cas, is not the Cas we know and love. He did what he thought was right and he just kind of lost control towards the end. Somehow, someway, I don't think it'll be forever. I'm praying they don't keep him this way, for the show's sake, or they are going to piss off a huge number of fans *shakes head*
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 8:03 pm
nerdy chick with wings This is what happens when no one hugs Castiel. SEE??!?!?!? SAM DIDN'T HUG CAS WHEN HE HAD THE CHANCE. POOR GUY FELT SO REJECTED HE WENT MENTAL AND DECIDED TO RULE THE WORLD.
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 8:06 pm
nerdy chick with wings I CANNOT EVEN BREATHE RIGHT NOW. OKAY. HERE GOES.
• Lisa and Ben having their memories wiped was absolutely heartbreaking. There's nothing more to it, it was just so heartbreaking. But I guess they're better off now, and it was probably the best thing they could have done.
• Cas. Oh dear god where do I even begin. Okay, seriously, I get that he always helped Dean out and everything and I do love Cas. And I know he wanted the boys to back off and stand down, but breaking down Sam's wall? Killing Balthazar? That is not the Cas we know. Watching the scenes in 6x21 where he's practically begging Dean for forgiveness is absolutely heartbreaking, and I was screaming at my laptop telling Dean just to forgive him. (Seriously, Dean should have just gave him a damn hug and told him everything would be alright and thanked him once in a while). But now that Cas is the "new god"... he's not Cas! He's not the Cas we know at all, and it's quite scary and I hate what they've done to him. He is just completely high off his power and dare I say it, what has happened to him is probably one hundred times worse than him actually dying.
• However, and please note that this is probably an extremely unpopular opinion; but after watching the whole finale, I'm actually more concerned with Sam. Sam is my only cliffhanger of the finale. I want to know if he's completely okay - but I can sense that he's not going to be okay at all. We all seen the complete mess that was Hell!Sam, and now that Sam has all of that knowledge, he's going to be completely corrupted. I want to know what he remembers and I want to know if he's going to be okay. Dean was a complete mess after Hell, after what he remembered. But Sam's experience of Hell was one hundred times worse; he was stuck down in Lucifer's cage. With Lucifer and Michael. So, yeah, probably an unpopular opinion, but I'm mostly concerned with Sam now.
• THE FREAKING IMPALA THOUGH TOO.
• I loved the scenes inside Sam's head. Jared is just such an A+ actor.
• I just want season 7 right now please.
Sheesh Pandy it has to like 4 in the morning over there. You must have been anxious to watch.
1. Yea it was heartbreaking. Dean looked like he could cry... I thought he just told Cas to wipe their memory of the event, not of his whole existence in their lives. sad
Well in a way yes they are better off, but they are still connected to Dean whether they know it or not, if anyone wanted to get to Dean they could still go through Lisa and Ben because he'd still go to their rescue. They just wont know what the heck is going on anymore and not even know who to call. The only way he could protect them fully is if he wiped them from his memory too and that way they wouldnt mean anything to him, thus no leverage pieces.
2. I couldnt believe he took Sam's wall down like that. Just bam... that's it. Everything Cas did was just so unbelievable. And I felt so sorry for Balty...but I figured he had it coming cuz Cas wasnt stupid. I wish he could have lived though.
But yea I agree this new Cas just isnt the same person. He's just....scary...
3. I dont even know how Sam is gonna survive this mentally. He was so brave though. He knew the risks but he took the risk to help his brother.
4. Darn I forgot about the Impala almost, I was so blinded by everything else what happened. It could be fixed though, I mean Dean's fixed it in worst shape. But I doubt if the car would be his top priority right now. sad
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 8:06 pm
Punk~Pirate~Princess nerdy chick with wings All of that being said though; I still maintain that Cas hate is just a no. Because this new Cas, this new god Cas, is not the Cas we know and love. He did what he thought was right and he just kind of lost control towards the end. Somehow, someway, I don't think it'll be forever. I'm praying they don't keep him this way, for the show's sake, or they are going to piss off a huge number of fans *shakes head* I don't think they will. I mean, if they did, what could they do? Go a whole season of waffle and then Cas eventually killing the boys in the end? It's kind of like season 4 only it's Cas and he's high on souls instead of demon blood. They know a huge majority of the fans absolutely adore Cas and that he's an important part to the fandom, keeping him like this permanently would mess things up completely. I don't think they would be that stupid, really.
I kept faith with Sam when he was going crazy on demon blood so I'll try to keep faith in Cas too, because we all know the real Cas underneath this.
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 8:11 pm
Punk~Pirate~Princess Angeladr7 Okay...my head's spinning right now I am just so mad at a lot of things..
Ben and Lisa dont remember Dean. I wanted to cry. sad
Then all the betrayal and backstabbing. Luv and props to Balty for working with the boys despite it all, but then Cas killed him!! gonk
Most of all, they completely screw up Cas' character. He just takes Sam's wall away, just like that. scream And now he's all hopped up on souls and has a deity complex and he's just plain scary.
What have they done!? crying crying
How on earth are they gonna get him back from that. No wonder the 7th season plot line says the boys are completely alone now. They just made Cas the big bad next season. stare
I have to say, Sam was such a trooper pushing through like that and getting out of his head. But now he's gonna be messed up, he remembers hell!
Ugg i'm frustrated. Everything ended on a bad horrible note.
Agreed stare
I also hated what they did with Lisa and Ben. I mean, what about when they get home and see all the pictures and stuff of Dean? Or did Cas get rid of all that too? Hope so or they're gonna be real confused lol. Meh *sigh*
What about the dead body at their house, did anyone remember that? confused
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 8:14 pm
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 8:19 pm
nerdy chick with wings Punk~Pirate~Princess nerdy chick with wings All of that being said though; I still maintain that Cas hate is just a no. Because this new Cas, this new god Cas, is not the Cas we know and love. He did what he thought was right and he just kind of lost control towards the end. Somehow, someway, I don't think it'll be forever. I'm praying they don't keep him this way, for the show's sake, or they are going to piss off a huge number of fans *shakes head* I don't think they will. I mean, if they did, what could they do? Go a whole season of waffle and then Cas eventually killing the boys in the end? It's kind of like season 4 only it's Cas and he's high on souls instead of demon blood. They know a huge majority of the fans absolutely adore Cas and that he's an important part to the fandom, keeping him like this permanently would mess things up completely. I don't think they would be that stupid, really.
I kept faith with Sam when he was going crazy on demon blood so I'll try to keep faith in Cas too, because we all know the real Cas underneath this. But even if they fix Cas, his relationship with the guys will NEVER be the same. Sam tried to KILL HIM. Dean won't even listen to him. Bobby's pissed he killed someone he loved. They all hate him, and I don't think they're ever going to forgive him and love him like they used to. That's another part of what is pissing me off sad
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