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AngelBrand

PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:34 pm


this is a new age and Im celtic NOT jewish. while i understand that God came to earth as a Jew that does not make me one.
I found this passage written by a conservative christian online.

[Does the New Testament maintain this strong stance against premarital sex? Is the power of sexual union an unalterable fact built into the very fabric of creation? We can answer with absolute certainty, but to do so we must dig deeper into Scripture than some people might have thought necessary.

This is because the Greek word translated fornication in some Bible versions is better translated sexual sin. Given the divinely inspired Old Testament attitude to premarital sex it is obvious that in Jewish culture – the background to virtually all the New Testament – sex before public marital commitment was regarded as sexual sin. It might possibly be argued, however, that the Greek word is a little too broad to prove emphatically from this word alone that the New Testament strongly forbids sex before marriage.]


I personaly am unmarried but have had sex and will do so again and have no intention of marrying anyone,

what are your guys views on this?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:38 pm


I fully feel that sex before marriage is wrong. But before I get into the why's I would like to come to an understanding of why you feel it is ok.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:26 pm


I believe, to keep traditions, if you decide to have sex before your married, you should not wear a white dress.
The white dress symbolises purity- or virginity.

But having it before marrage is a personal choice.
I think you should wait, but thats only because there is so much drama when someone gets pregnant.

Now, I completely dissagree with teen sex, they should wait till they are an adult because your not fully responsible yet.

To the point: I think its wrong. You only have your virginity once, you'll never get it back.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:55 pm


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I believe, to keep traditions, if you decide to have sex before your married, you should not wear a white dress.
The white dress symbolises purity- or virginity.

But having it before marrage is a personal choice.
I think you should wait, but thats only because there is so much drama when someone gets pregnant.

Now, I completely dissagree with teen sex, they should wait till they are an adult because your not fully responsible yet.

To the point: I think its wrong. You only have your virginity once, you'll never get it back.


Your right, it is a personal choice, but it is also a personal choice if a man choose to rape, steal, kill, etc. This does not make any action right or proper. The question is what does?

What does being an adult have anything to do with morality? I'm also quite sure the problem of sex before marriage is hardly a youth to an adult problem it is fully an adult issue. (Of course if an adult shouldn't do it a child shouldn't as well)

And what does drama have to do with anything? I'm sure there are plenty of good actions that cause drama as well, like confronting a friend with a gambling problem or drink problem or etc. So it seems to me drama has little consequence to whether an action is good or bad.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:27 pm


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I believe, to keep traditions, if you decide to have sex before your married, you should not wear a white dress.
The white dress symbolises purity- or virginity.

But having it before marrage is a personal choice.
I think you should wait, but thats only because there is so much drama when someone gets pregnant.

Now, I completely dissagree with teen sex, they should wait till they are an adult because your not fully responsible yet.

To the point: I think its wrong. You only have your virginity once, you'll never get it back.


Your right, it is a personal choice, but it is also a personal choice if a man choose to rape, steal, kill, etc. This does not make any action right or proper. The question is what does?

What does being an adult have anything to do with morality? I'm also quite sure the problem of sex before marriage is hardly a youth to an adult problem it is fully an adult issue. (Of course if an adult shouldn't do it a child shouldn't as well)

And what does drama have to do with anything? I'm sure there are plenty of good actions that cause drama as well, like confronting a friend with a gambling problem or drink problem or etc. So it seems to me drama has little consequence to whether an action is good or bad.

1. I'm not gonna make someone stop something, its the same as shoving religion own their throat.
NOw, I'll tell them its wrong, but if they have the devil whispering in their ear, its not gonna stop them until they really see and know God's love.

2. I just say its wrong to have sex as a teen. Period. Not saying being an adult makes it fine to do anyone you want.

3. It a reason, other than its wrong, to wait. Baby=drama. Especially if the father doesn't think its theirs (I guess that could happen in marrige too) or the mother doesn't know whos the father.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 9:03 pm


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I believe, to keep traditions, if you decide to have sex before your married, you should not wear a white dress.
The white dress symbolises purity- or virginity.

But having it before marrage is a personal choice.
I think you should wait, but thats only because there is so much drama when someone gets pregnant.

Now, I completely dissagree with teen sex, they should wait till they are an adult because your not fully responsible yet.

To the point: I think its wrong. You only have your virginity once, you'll never get it back.


Your right, it is a personal choice, but it is also a personal choice if a man choose to rape, steal, kill, etc. This does not make any action right or proper. The question is what does?

What does being an adult have anything to do with morality? I'm also quite sure the problem of sex before marriage is hardly a youth to an adult problem it is fully an adult issue. (Of course if an adult shouldn't do it a child shouldn't as well)

And what does drama have to do with anything? I'm sure there are plenty of good actions that cause drama as well, like confronting a friend with a gambling problem or drink problem or etc. So it seems to me drama has little consequence to whether an action is good or bad.

1. I'm not gonna make someone stop something, its the same as shoving religion own their throat.
NOw, I'll tell them its wrong, but if they have the devil whispering in their ear, its not gonna stop them until they really see and know God's love.

2. I just say its wrong to have sex as a teen. Period. Not saying being an adult makes it fine to do anyone you want.

3. It a reason, other than its wrong, to wait. Baby=drama. Especially if the father doesn't think its theirs (I guess that could happen in marrige too) or the mother doesn't know whos the father.


Well you technically can't make anyone stop, its 100% their choice. Like when you say 'shoving' religion down someones throat, technically you aren't doing anything other then telling them and being persistent, it is up to them whether to accept it.

Well I think it is definitely important to point out, at least, that it is wrong for everyone to have premarital sex.

And also yes I can see it as a reason, but a baby doesn't necessarily mean drama (which it will probably cause) it means something you might not be ready for, and the only way you can be sure your ready for it is if your willing to get married to someone for the rest of your life, if your not ready for that (which is proven through actually going through with the act and living with them for years) then you are not ready for a child. (aka do not have sex till your ready for a child.)

(P.S. none of that is arguing your reply, if anything I respected it.)

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:24 am


I feel that if you are with someone and you love that person then it is alright.
I'm not saying that you should do it right when you get a boyfriend, I think that you should wait until you are mature. By this I mean wait until you can afford the consequences, like children. However there are condoms and birth control pills you can be safe regardless of what anyone tells you. =/ It does cut down the risk by a lot.

I think as long as you have a steady boyfriend or whatever it is alright.

But I am against young teens doing it.

I really don't know if it is a sin or not. I hear a lot of contradicting things about the Bible, like we don't have to follow the old testament. I dunno.

Can anyone shed some light?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:46 pm


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I feel that if you are with someone and you love that person then it is alright.
I'm not saying that you should do it right when you get a boyfriend, I think that you should wait until you are mature. By this I mean wait until you can afford the consequences, like children. However there are condoms and birth control pills you can be safe regardless of what anyone tells you. =/ It does cut down the risk by a lot.

I think as long as you have a steady boyfriend or whatever it is alright.

But I am against young teens doing it.

I really don't know if it is a sin or not. I hear a lot of contradicting things about the Bible, like we don't have to follow the old testament. I dunno.

Can anyone shed some light?

To tell the truth, I don't know if we should or shouldn't follow the old testament. I mean, people in the old testament has to offer burnt offerings and we don't do that because of Jesus dieing on the cross. I don't know, life is just confusing.

Here is a site that miht help with "What the Bible say's about sex before marrige".

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:52 pm


Miss DaMeanor
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I feel that if you are with someone and you love that person then it is alright.
I'm not saying that you should do it right when you get a boyfriend, I think that you should wait until you are mature. By this I mean wait until you can afford the consequences, like children. However there are condoms and birth control pills you can be safe regardless of what anyone tells you. =/ It does cut down the risk by a lot.

I think as long as you have a steady boyfriend or whatever it is alright.

But I am against young teens doing it.

I really don't know if it is a sin or not. I hear a lot of contradicting things about the Bible, like we don't have to follow the old testament. I dunno.

Can anyone shed some light?

To tell the truth, I don't know if we should or shouldn't follow the old testament. I mean, people in the old testament has to offer burnt offerings and we don't do that because of Jesus dieing on the cross. I don't know, life is just confusing.

Here is a site that miht help with "What the Bible say's about sex before marrige".

That was helpful... I wonder... What bout sex with your fiance is that bad I mean you are going to get married. And what if you were able to handle the consequences like a baby? Is it still wrong then?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:27 pm


Some people don't have the choice. Like me. I didn't have the choice to stay a virgin because I was forced into sex at the age of six. I don't think sex before marriage is wrong just like I don't believe that same sex relations is wrong.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:55 am


Miss DaMeanor
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I feel that if you are with someone and you love that person then it is alright.
I'm not saying that you should do it right when you get a boyfriend, I think that you should wait until you are mature. By this I mean wait until you can afford the consequences, like children. However there are condoms and birth control pills you can be safe regardless of what anyone tells you. =/ It does cut down the risk by a lot.

I think as long as you have a steady boyfriend or whatever it is alright.

But I am against young teens doing it.

I really don't know if it is a sin or not. I hear a lot of contradicting things about the Bible, like we don't have to follow the old testament. I dunno.

Can anyone shed some light?

To tell the truth, I don't know if we should or shouldn't follow the old testament. I mean, people in the old testament has to offer burnt offerings and we don't do that because of Jesus dieing on the cross. I don't know, life is just confusing.

Here is a site that miht help with "What the Bible say's about sex before marrige".

i agree, i don't think the Old Testament is to be followed word by word.
i mean, Christ came and with Him, a New Testament.

--

yes, some people don't have the choice and it's not their fault.
still, i think sex is serious, cause i still hope it can be an incredible act of love, so...

... uhh... yyeah, trying to catch the thought back... so i think it could, between what's posible, be saved to your real loved one (the one who most probably will end up being your husband/wife).

so sex after marriage is the closest way i can think of to be right about the choice (of doing it - which means, i'm talking about the cases where you're not being forced).

GOSH i dunno, it's just what i think. xP
PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:17 pm


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I feel that if you are with someone and you love that person then it is alright.
I'm not saying that you should do it right when you get a boyfriend, I think that you should wait until you are mature. By this I mean wait until you can afford the consequences, like children. However there are condoms and birth control pills you can be safe regardless of what anyone tells you. =/ It does cut down the risk by a lot.

I think as long as you have a steady boyfriend or whatever it is alright.

But I am against young teens doing it.

I really don't know if it is a sin or not. I hear a lot of contradicting things about the Bible, like we don't have to follow the old testament. I dunno.

Can anyone shed some light?

To tell the truth, I don't know if we should or shouldn't follow the old testament. I mean, people in the old testament has to offer burnt offerings and we don't do that because of Jesus dieing on the cross. I don't know, life is just confusing.

Here is a site that miht help with "What the Bible say's about sex before marrige".

That was helpful... I wonder... What bout sex with your fiance is that bad I mean you are going to get married. And what if you were able to handle the consequences like a baby? Is it still wrong then?

Hmm...
You make a good point, If your gonna marry anyways, why wait?
But, your a fiance before your married, so you think doing it before your marryed is ok because your gonna marry anyways, BUT: your a boyfriend before your a fiance, so then we're going back to having sex when just boyfriend and girlfriend. So, I think it would still have consenquenses, but, then agian, I don't know.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 8:26 pm


I think that since God made a person for each of us...
We should wait for that person.
So I think I will stop or at least try to stop, and wait until I am married.

I think it would make God happy.

Uhg. this is going to be a hard thing to overcome.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 1:21 am


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I think that since God made a person for each of us...
We should wait for that person.
So I think I will stop or at least try to stop, and wait until I am married.

I think it would make God happy.

Uhg. this is going to be a hard thing to overcome.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:24 am


RsnblFaith
Miss DaMeanor
I believe, to keep traditions, if you decide to have sex before your married, you should not wear a white dress.
The white dress symbolises purity- or virginity.

But having it before marrage is a personal choice.
I think you should wait, but thats only because there is so much drama when someone gets pregnant.

Now, I completely dissagree with teen sex, they should wait till they are an adult because your not fully responsible yet.

To the point: I think its wrong. You only have your virginity once, you'll never get it back.

What does being an adult have anything to do with morality? I'm also quite sure the problem of sex before marriage is hardly a youth to an adult problem it is fully an adult issue. (Of course if an adult shouldn't do it a child shouldn't as well)

most men don't mature completely until up to the age of twenty-five. for women, it's around twenty.
scientific trufax.
you know that time in your life when you look back on your high school years and say, "what was i thinking?"
decisions aren't always the best ones when you're young.
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