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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:31 pm


What explicitly does the Bible teach about homosexuality?
This question I consider to be basic because, if we accept God's Word on the subject of homosexuality, we benefit from His adequate answer to this problem. I am concerned only with the Christian or biblical view of homosexuality. The Bible has much to say about sex sins in general.

First, there is adultery. Adultery in the natural sense is sexual intercourse of a married person with someone other than his or her own spouse. It is condemned in both the Old and New Testaments (Exodus 20:14; I Cor. 6:9, 10). Christ forbids dwelling upon the thoughts, the free play of one's imagination that leads to adultery (Matthew 5:28 ).

Second, there is fornication, the illicit sex acts of unmarried persons which is likewise forbidden (I Corinthians 5:1; 6:13, 18; Ephesians 5:3).

Then there is homosexuality which likewise is condemned in Scripture. The Apostle Paul, writing by inspiration of the Holy Spirit, declares that homosexuality "shall not inherit the kingdom of God" (I Corinthians 6:9; 10). Now Paul does not single out the homosexual as a special offender. He includes fornicators, idolators, adulterers, thieves, covetous persons, drunkards, revilers and extortioners. And then he adds the comment that some of the Christians at Corinth had been delivered from these very practices: "And such were some of you: But ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the spirit of our God" (I Corinthians 6:11). All of the sins mentioned in this passage are condemned by God, but just as there was hope in Christ for the Corinthians, so is there hope for all of us.

Homosexuality is an illicit lust forbidden by God. He said to His people Israel, "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination" (Leviticus 18:22). "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them" (Leviticus 20:13). In these passages homosexuality is condemned as a prime example of sin, a sexual perversion. The Christian can neither alter God's viewpoint nor depart from it.

In the Bible sodomy is a synonym for homosexuality. God spoke plainly on the matter when He said, "There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel" (Deuteronomy 23:17). The whore and the sodomite are in the same category. A sodomite was not an inhabitant of Sodom nor a descendant of an inhabitant of Sodom, but a man who had given himself to homosexuality, the perverted and unnatural vice for which Sodom was known. Let us look at the passages in question:

But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house around, both old and young, all the people from every quarter:

And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? Bring them out unto us, that we may know them.

And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him, And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly.

Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof. (Genesis 19:4-8 )

The Hebrew word for "know" in verse 5 is yada`, a sexual term. It is used frequently to denote sexual intercourse (Genesis 4:1, 17, 25; Matthew 1:24, 25). The message in the context of Genesis 19 is clear. Lot pled with the men to "do not so wickedly." Homosexuality is wickedness and must be recognized as such else there is no hope for the homosexual who is asking for help to be extricated from his perverted way of life.

Other Verses that refer to Homosexuality
Romans 1:24-27; I Timothy 1:10 and Jude 7. If one takes these Scriptures seriously, homosexuality will be recognized as an evil. The Romans passage is unmistakably clear. Paul attributes the moral depravity of men and women to their rejection of "the truth of God" (1:25). They refused "to retain God in their knowledge" (1:28 ), thereby dethroning God and deifying themselves. The Old Testament had clearly condemned homosexuality but in Paul's day there were those persons who rejected its teaching. Because of their rejection of God's commands He punished their sin by delivering them over to it.

The philosophy of substituting God's Word with one's own reasoning commenced with Satan. He introduced it at the outset of the human race by suggesting to Eve that she ignore God's orders, assuring her that in so doing she would become like God with the power to discern good and evil (Genesis 3:1-5). That was Satan's big lie. Paul said that when any person rejects God's truth, his mind becomes "reprobate," meaning perverted, void of sound judgment. The perverted mind, having rejected God's truth, is not capable of discerning good and evil.

In Romans 1:26-31 twenty-three punishable sins are listed with homosexuality leading the list. Paul wrote, "For this cause God gave them up into vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet" (Romans 1:26, 27). These verses are telling us that homosexuals suffer in their body and personality the inevitable consequences of their wrong doing. Notice that the behaviour of the homosexual is described as a "vile affection" (1:26). The Greek word translated "vile" (atimia) means filthy, dirty, evil, dishonourable. The word "affection" in Greek is pathos, used by the Greeks of either a good or bad desire. Here in the context of Romans it is used in a bad sense. The "vile affection" is a degrading passion, a shameful lust. Both the desire (lusting after) and the act of homosexuality are condemned in the Bible as sin.

How should we act towards homosexual people?
We must always keep before us the fact that homosexuals, like all of us sinners, are the objects of God's love. The Bible says, "But God commendeth His love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us" (Romans 5:8 ). Jesus Christ "is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world" (I John 2:2). The Christian who shares God's love for lost sinners will seek to reach the homosexual with the gospel of Christ, which "is the power of God unto salvation, to every one that believeth" (Romans 1:16). As a Christian I should hate all sin but I can find no justification for hating the sinner. The homosexual is a precious soul for whom Christ died. We Christians can show him the best way of life by pointing him to Christ. Our Lord said, "Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature" (Mark 16:15). We are obligated to take the gospel to all.
http://bible.org/article/homosexuality-christian-perspective
PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:49 pm


This is great. Thank you for this post. (:

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:31 pm



Thank you for this post, and for all the work you do in this guild of yours, Mentally. ^_^
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:22 pm


Thanks guys :3
I had a magezine that explained this better,
but I have no clue where it went.
:3

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:10 am


uno: if we listened to everything in leviticus, i would not eat bacon and half my friends would be banned from being in public for two weeks for being on their periods.

deux: Jesus Christ came to earth to save the sinners, and if homosexuality is a sin, it's no more or less a sin than lies or murder.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:36 am


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uno: if we listened to everything in leviticus, i would not eat bacon and half my friends would be banned from being in public for two weeks for being on their periods.

deux: Jesus Christ came to earth to save the sinners, and if homosexuality is a sin, it's no more or less a sin than lies or murder.


Of course, not everyone says homosexuality is worse than murdering, but then again more people say homosexuality isn't a sin then those who say murder isn't a sin, theres less of a fight. (I would mention lying but technically lying isn't the sin, its baring false witness. = P Which isn't necessarily lying.)

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:56 am


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uno: if we listened to everything in leviticus, i would not eat bacon and half my friends would be banned from being in public for two weeks for being on their periods.

deux: Jesus Christ came to earth to save the sinners, and if homosexuality is a sin, it's no more or less a sin than lies or murder.


Of course, not everyone says homosexuality is worse than murdering, but then again more people say homosexuality isn't a sin then those who say murder isn't a sin, theres less of a fight. (I would mention lying but technically lying isn't the sin, its baring false witness. = P Which isn't necessarily lying.)

but it's not the general population's opinion on what sin is worse than another that matters. it's God's. i think He believes no sin is any worse than another. if being gay were a sin, then it wouldn't be any better or worse than murdering ten thousand people. likewise, stealing a piece of gum from the gas station is no better or worse than robbing the national treasury.

(i wasn't being specific. lying goes under bearing false witness.)

it's just that, after spending less than five minutes looking at this "guide", and realizing that nothing this man was saying was polite or good-natured or restrained, all i really learned was that this was written for sheep.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 1:11 am


Thank you for that but I have one question I have a homosexual friend but hes a christian and he knows it's wrong and he struggles with it everyday how can I help him?

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 1:14 am


Cha cha miku
Thank you for that but I have one question I have a homosexual friend but hes a christian and he knows it's wrong and he struggles with it everyday how can I help him?

If he really wants to stop his "homosexualness" (I couldn't think of another way to say it x.x) just tell him God can help him and give him encoragement,
The only thing holding him back it the devil.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 1:26 am


Miss DaMeanor
Cha cha miku
Thank you for that but I have one question I have a homosexual friend but hes a christian and he knows it's wrong and he struggles with it everyday how can I help him?

If he really wants to stop his "homosexualness" (I couldn't think of another way to say it x.x) just tell him God can help him and give him encoragement,
The only thing holding him back it the devil.
Thank you very much for your advice.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 1:01 pm


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uno: if we listened to everything in leviticus, i would not eat bacon and half my friends would be banned from being in public for two weeks for being on their periods.

deux: Jesus Christ came to earth to save the sinners, and if homosexuality is a sin, it's no more or less a sin than lies or murder.


Of course, not everyone says homosexuality is worse than murdering, but then again more people say homosexuality isn't a sin then those who say murder isn't a sin, theres less of a fight. (I would mention lying but technically lying isn't the sin, its baring false witness. = P Which isn't necessarily lying.)

but it's not the general population's opinion on what sin is worse than another that matters. it's God's. i think He believes no sin is any worse than another. if being gay were a sin, then it wouldn't be any better or worse than murdering ten thousand people. likewise, stealing a piece of gum from the gas station is no better or worse than robbing the national treasury.

(i wasn't being specific. lying goes under bearing false witness.)

it's just that, after spending less than five minutes looking at this "guide", and realizing that nothing this man was saying was polite or good-natured or restrained, all i really learned was that this was written for sheep.


Me and you are in complete agreement, I was just explaining why people usually get more worked up over homosexuality rather then any other wrong. (Now if you feel homosexuality is not a sin then we are in some sort of disagreement, but you have yet to say that so I really can't argue, and from the understanding that humans don't make morality God does, I can already tell that you don't feel so, but that would merely be an assumption)
PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:43 pm


The concept of homosexuality is relatively new to society. We shun what we don't understand, thus, the stigma.
And in response to sin is sin, that just means we should get just as worked up about murder and stealing as we do homosexuality. It's just desensitization that does this.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 5:23 pm


Ekeanyanwu
The concept of homosexuality is relatively new to society. We shun what we don't understand, thus, the stigma.
And in response to sin is sin, that just means we should get just as worked up about murder and stealing as we do homosexuality. It's just desensitization that does this.

Good point, we should bring up all sins- such as stealing and murder- just as much as we do homosexuality. Its like Breast Cancer. Everyone knows about it and you could go anywhere and buy stuff to put money to help find a cure, but there is other dieseses out there that don't have cures- like MS. I never see stores selling stuff about MS and nor do I see comercials saying "help us". People just have a harder time believing homosexuality is a sin- they obviously know stealing and murder is, which is why its not a big discussion.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 7:39 pm


Exactly. ^^
My mom is actually a nurse in the Breast Cancer center where I live, small world. What you say she tells me all the time. 3nodding

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 7:40 pm


Miss DaMeanor
Cha cha miku
Thank you for that but I have one question I have a homosexual friend but hes a christian and he knows it's wrong and he struggles with it everyday how can I help him?

If he really wants to stop his "homosexualness" (I couldn't think of another way to say it x.x) just tell him God can help him and give him encoragement,
The only thing holding him back it the devil.

Homosexual tendencies? I tried. sweatdrop
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