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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:21 am


-B a s i c s & F u n d s


given name || Veiltail Goldfish
true name || Carassius auratus
nick name(s) || Vai (prounounced: v-EYE), Goldie
gender || Male

FUNDS : 500k and then some... to be completely and 100% honest I would pay more than standard semi-custom price if I didn't have to wait until another event to try my hand at getting him. Overeager? Yes. Sorry!


Timeline ||
Sept 23...created, general format made, first few posts prettied up
Sept 26...rest of the posts are prettied up and thread finished, Shiri-Matakami pointed out how frail I've accidentaly made Vai out to be and I made an effort to put less stress on the fragility of his fins.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:22 am


-V e i l t a i l G o l d f i s h


animal refs || -1- | -2- | -3- | -4-

species information || Goldfish are a hearty fish tank staple, easy to care for and generally well lived. The Veiltail Goldfish is one of the more rare and hard to keep of the species.

Known for it's extra long, flowing double-tail fins it's categorized as a 'Fancy' Goldfish. Their fins are delicate and voluptuous and can grow to over 2 1/2 inches (or 6 cm)! This maks them a truly BEAUTIFUL addition to any tank, however these fins also make them slow, clumsy swimmers so be sure not to put them in a tank with fast or competitive fish else they run the risk of being malnourished because they can't get to the food before the others.

They can have any of three scale types and so can be acquired in a solid red or orange, variegated colors, or calico.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:24 am


-A p p e a r a n c e & F a s h i o n


basic appearance information
Considering I only ever expect a semi-custom this information is purely up to the artist on weather or not they want to add them. Anything that I really would love to see included in Vai's design will be marked with an asterisk (*)


child refs || A vague idea of fin placement, really. I have no idea where butt fins would go, lawl. I hope to see a dorsal fin that's somehow incorporated into his hair*, hip fins*, arm fins, and tail fins*.

Hair Color
Classic goldfish golden/orange or even perhaps the darker reddish-orange that some can be. * Ideally, however, the hair color would not be the exact same colors as the dorsal fins that are part of his hair-do.* New input! I just realized if he had the darker reddish-orange hair he'd be a Ginger. YES PLEASE!

Hairstyle
See the Child Ref's image for ideas. Hair that is very wavy but NOT necessarily curly. Shoulder length to between the shoulder-blades length is preferred. *Also, fins included in his hair-do in some manner.*

Eye Color
Dark. Perhaps a darkish gray, as fish don't really have eye color.

Eye Shape
Classic roundish american shape... perhaps a little rounder/larger to give him the familiar fish stare (and an innocent look, at that) ~ o0o

Skin Color
Pale skin color with smatterings of white and orange (ala calico fish scale colorings) scales over his body. Perhaps on his shoulders, around the areas where fins are attached (perhaps a FEW scales on his forehead if head(dorsal) fins are worked into his hair).

Facial and Body Structure
Slender and delicate features (little nose, long, slender fingers, etc...) I know the Veiltail is one of the egg-shape body type Goldfish but I personally cannot imagine a way that can be incorporated well into a human figure. However if the artist can... then by all means. :>

Other
Giving Vai a surprised expression or finding some way for his mouth to be slightly open so he can give a o0o fish face is WELCOME. I like humor! And gills!

suggested inclusions || Fins in his hair (dorsal), on his hips, and his backside (tail fins). Gills. Delicate features.


clothing style/dress sense ||
Vai's fins are delicate... needless to say he HATES wearing clothing that in any way could press on, ruffle, rumble, or *gasp* tear his fins. He prefers loose, flowing clothing that will prevent this. In the circumstance that not all the fins I'd like to see can be added... his clothing (particularly his sleeves) can be very loose and flowing to replicate the look.

Depending on how things are RP'd, how things go, and what friends Vai makes there is a high chance that he might get into wearing WOMEN'S CLOTHING. Not necessarily because it makes him feel pretty (or does it?) but because dresses and skirts are soooo much more forgiving than pants or slacks, which would have to be worn so far down on his hips he'd nearly be showing it all for everyone to see to make sure his hip fins and tail fins wouldn't get smooshed.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:26 am


-T r a i t s & P e r s o n a l i t y


traits ||
Scales
Pretty scales located mainly around where his fins connect to his body as well as his shoulders. Their main purpose actually is to add some extra protection to his fins where they meet up with Vai's skin.
Gills
For underwater breathing! Thankfully he can breath normal air as well, though.
Fins
For better, faster swimming. However due to the fact that his fins are especially long it means they tend to get in the way and have the potential to get damaged if Vai isn't careful. Needless to say... he's VERY careful.

likes || Familiar things and routine, swimming, warm water, bubble baths, admiring art of all kinds (painting, sculpture, music, etc...)
dislikes || Change, cold water, competition, being confined, his fins being rumpled or torn, pop quizes

personality ||
-Forgetful...Vai has the memory of a sieve. It can take him weeks to learn someone's name if he doesn't talk with them very often. Needless to say he has a need to study diligently if he's to succeed in anything acedemical. That's not to say he can't remember anything; if someone's made a big enough first impression on him or he's exposed to people, things, or a certain subject matter over and over again he begins to retain it.

-Because of this he likes for things to be familiar. He's very organized to the point of showing OCD tendancies, not necissarily because he's a neat freak but simply because if he were to set something like the keys to his dorm room anywhere but the spot he ALWAYS puts them it's as good as lost. Realizing that anything is out of place can lead to long bouts of organizing and making sure everything is where he usually puts it. He is often anxious that he's forgotten something.

-Generally Vai is a mellow person. He's somewhat of a daydreamer by nature, enjoying calmer activities like reading or admiring art. He's a social person, willing to give the first hello or say something to break the ice. Vai lives for the moment and isn't very good at thinking or planning ahead. He's even occasionally spontaneous...so long as it doesn't break up one of his routines.

hobbies || Vai loves looking at art. The fact that his memory is so horrible just means he can go back to the same painting a few days later and admire it in it's splendor all over again!

quirks and peculiarities || Vai 'sleeps' with his eyes open much like an actual fish, which could be a bit unnerving to any room-mate or sleep-over buddy. He also doesn't lay down to sleep, rather he prefers to sit propped up against the wall while sitting on his bed. It acts as a double plus as he's now in a ready to run position if any danger comes his way!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:31 am


-C h a r a c t e r D e v e l o p m e n t


character development ideas ||
-There is an incredibly high chance that Vai will take to wearing women's clothing (i.e. dresses and skirts). It's not necessarily because he's into cross-dressing or it makes him feel pretty (or does it?) but because pants or slacks REALLY hinder in smushing and rumpling his fins which is something he hates almost more than forgetting something behind.

-Vai is really interested in the arts. No so much as a DO kind of guy but a LOOKER. Eventually he'll realize that he could be the one painting pretty pictures or singing songs. I'd like for Vai to go through a process of cycling through many different types of art, from trying to paint, sculpt, act, sing, and trying to learn to play different instruments. In his circumstances it'll almost be like a soul search. Looking for that thing that HE is good at and enjoys doing (and won't just forget about).
Possible Phases
*Painting/Drawing
*Sculpting
*Music (so many different instruments to try!)
*Baking (decorating cakes is like art!)

-Relationship. As in with a girl OR a boy. This is something I'd like to see happen but REFUSE to try and force out. I don't like talking with another player (the person behind the character) and deciding from the get go that two characters WILL fall in love. Rather I prefer to have the characters interact and see what happens between them. Vai is the type of person who might even end up having a FAILED relationship, so that's always a possibility as well!

-Vai's sexuality is UNDECIDED. I want to make a point of saying this because I don't want people to assume that 'He's a guy, he likes to wear dresses... he must be gay!' I don't know Vai very well yet... I have yet to get the chance to RP him. I don't like deciding how a character is going to be and setting it in stone, rather I prefer to let him 'decide' what he prefers by RPing and having things happen. I hope this paragraph is easy to understand but if it's not feel free to send me a PM and ask me any questions.

-Have any suggestions? I'd LOVE to hear them. Vai isn't a created character yet so I can't really PLOT with him but if someone has an idea that COULD happen between him and their character then please by all means give me a shout out!

-Whatever the staff wants to come up with. Honestly Vai doesn't have any direction at this point simply because he hasn't come into creation. My characters tend to develop a personality all their own and start going on the path that THEY chose. However if staff decides they'd like to make some plans for Vai then by all means I'd LOVE to see what they can throw at me! I don't really have any limitations when it comes to RP...just no character death, please!

possible job interests || Something artistic. Vai LOVES admiring everything artistic... eventually he'll realize that maybe even HE can do something like that. I don't know what he might figure out he can do but I'm probably going to steer it towards something Musical in nature. Then again... he might decide that that's not the thing for him!

If you've got any suggestions that you might think would be a fitting future job for Vai feel free to shout it out.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:32 am


- O t h e r S t u f f


On Being Delicate/Fragile. I know I STRESS the word delicate or fragile in this whole thread but I don't mean that Vai himself will shred to tatters if a strong wind gusts at him. I'm more of using the term to stress his appearance to the potential future artist. Vai looks delicate and he'll certainly be extremely wary of tearing his fins but they can withstand some roughing up without getting damaged.
-Thanks to Shiri-Matakami for pointing out that I had been giving such a strong impression of a frail boy!

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So I asked Smerdle to doodle me a little veiltail goldfishy so I might have a cute little graphic to stick in my sig that'll link to this thread. She mistook what I said and instead drew me a tiny silly Vai concept. It makes me teehee!

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:35 am


- L i n k s O u t




I pronounce this thread officially open!

So if you've got any crit or suggestions feel free to give them! I don't think I really have the right to try and plan so far ahead as to make plot ideas with existing characters as Vai does not yet exist but I'd still be giddy to see what you think your kid (if you have an existing CAMPer or if, like Vai, it is just an idea) would think of/how they would interact with Vai.
PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 7:07 am


Eeeeee~

I love Vai so much Butters might be like bouncing up and down with wanting to go to museums and shopping with him. I just see Butters becoming such good friends with Vai, because they both have delicate representations of their true animal. Butters has her wings and Vai will have his everything else fins and tail.

I really like his concept and how you place the fins and really most things about him. I just wanted to ask if you might have made him almost too fragile? I am staring at my pretty pretty beta fish and their tails are really long and look really fragile, but I have dropped him many times (on the ground, in the sink and even one memorable time on my foot) and he is still fine and his fin isn't even dented.

So I think that you might want to make his fins and tail appear fragile but have them be able to take some damage? He can still be really careful and hesitant in things. But I worry that if you make him too breakable then he won't be able to do -anything- at CAMP, or some of the other kids won't be delicate enough and he will be really hurt. I am by no means saying that he should be like a turtle or a rock in his toughness, but you say fragile so much that I worry for the poor boy. Even Butters is kinda scared that she might hurt him by -touching- or grabbing his hand to drag him somewhere and that can be a real limiter when it comes to RPing and playing the character in general.

On a completely different note.

I might have flailed and laughed out loud when you brought up Vai wearing woman's clothing. Like. It just made so much sense. I can totally see him looking at a skirt and then staring at some pants when he is at the store and picking the skirt because it fits his fins more.

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Love him and can't wait for him to become a part of CAMP! heart

Shiri-Matakami


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 3:49 pm


Aah, I know that fins are really actually very strong. You have a good point there and a good reason to worry. I don't THINK I said anything where I specified that his fins WOULD get damaged at the drop of the hat... rather I wrote it KIND OF from 'his' perspective if you know what I mean?

HE's going to be super duper cautious and careful but me as the player of the character won't have a strong wind blow and his fins tear to shreds, ya know?

And aaaaah I just realized... Butters wants a beautiful world and Vai thinks the world is beautiful! They would make such great friends! <3 Clothes shopping would be a blast. 8D
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:25 am


I am glad that I could help lovely. heart

I am not as scared for Vai now that he is just mostly worried about his fin's being rumpled or being sat on. Tearing and shredding can be a fear that he can have, I mean, Butters has these huge wings that she has to worry about, but it is more abstract for her. Not that I am saying Vai shouldn't worry and be as silly as Butters is about her easily broken wings as he is about his fins.

I was mostly worried about Vai being hindered in RP situations, but you have cleared that up a lot with awesome words like rumpled. I might be in love with that word. It has such awesome mental pictures attached to it.

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Butters is kinda terrified and completely fascinated with Vai and that he SLEEPS WITH HIS EYES OPEN!!!!111

I might have forgotten to point that out last time. I love fish so much. With all their creepy things going on. :B

Butters: *stands on Vai's bed and waves hands in front of his face while getting progressively closer*

Shiri-Matakami

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