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 Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 1:54 pm
i hate bringing the 9/11 topic up but he really takes the pi$$ this time in his speach that he made
1 thing youth 9/11 isn't something that a event happened in america it happened worldwide
like the poor souls who was in the planes the poor souls who was in the twin towers
from differnt nations we all suffered the losses of innocent people by the sick and twisted desire of osama bin boy
when obama brought up the mosquie built near the 9/11 site and stateing that where the usa ain't against muslems only alcieda (terrorests) but guess what most other countrys aren't against muslems too but near enougth giving the go ahead of the mosque being build across from the crash site is discusting its heart breaking its a giant bi t ch slap to the familys all over the world devestated by the monsterous attack by bin bag
great that u stopped the protest of the kurran burning cause that would'nt have solved anything it would'nt have brought anybody back if they did burn there holy book
but the mosque thing is controversal no one will respect nyc anymore if it gose ahead it will be renamed the city of pi$$ takers
while im at it obama might as well open a invertation to suicide bombers to destroy other building for what ever purpose like blow up the whitehouse so that a (what ever u want to put here) can be built/constructed on/near it
im sorry 4 u reading this rant but i needed it of my chest
but as a proud member of the community called earth i don't want to see anymore sick things in my life time
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:06 pm
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:14 pm
ah ha 30 minutes b4 mine looks like its not me just annoyed then
and im sorry 2 hear about what happened 2 ur friend
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:20 pm
I remember when the election had just finished, immediately they started selling Obama commemorative items, even coins. I remember ranting to several people about this, "It doesn't matter if he's the first black president! We don't know him yet! What if he's so bad in office we don't want to remember him after his term!?"
So far it seems like my prediction is slowly coming true. I hear on the news, things like democratic politicians avoiding him, rants against what he's doing and how he's doing it, protests on the way he's handling the situation of our troops in Iraq, ect. . . I've even heard one person on CNN saying he's doing worse than Bush so far. This situation with the masque and such mis just another blemish on his repertoire.
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:25 pm
To me he is just proving I was right about what I thought about him before he was elected. He does not care about the American people.
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:19 am
I did not hear his speech but seems I didn't miss much and I don't like any of the things that he wants to do. He making me miss the Bush years I didn't like him from the beginning I thought he was pretty two faced.
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 9:28 am
Sadly I am very disappointed in him. I thought he would make a big change in government, but alas. It has proved he's just like every other politician out there. Very few actually care about the people that elected them...
Its so disheartening.
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Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 1:26 am
I still think that Obama was a better choice than letting Sarah Palin get anywhere near the White House. However, I do think that he needs to grow a backbone. He's kept to some of his campaign promises but where's the hope and change, huh? Mostly it's just the same old same old. Of course, Congress really are the ones with most of the power as far as laws go. But I do wish that Obama would push harder for his ideas - I think that he's got the potential to guide our country in a great direction if he'll stop letting people walk on him.
Of course, I'm in favour of allowing the community center to be built. It's private property, it's not on the WTC site, and it's not going to be a bastion to Islamic domination (nor is it being planned by the type of Muslims who were responsible for 9/11). It's going to house a basketball court, a culinary school, a place for anyone to come and socialise... it will just happen to have a Muslim prayer-space on the top floor. I'm completely with the President on this issue - we should not allow ourselves to be Islamophobic; our country was founded with freedom of religion as one of its core ideals. We should try not to judge the entire religion by the actions of the extremists.
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Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:21 am
Hear Hear! You are so right Daffodil. Is it me or is politics becoming more and more polarized?
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Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:14 am
I agree with you as well Daffodil! He has so much potential, but has gone nowhere with his ideas. It's frustrating, because he spoke of all this change that he wanted for our country, and it really seems like he was just saying what we all wanted to hear. It's very disheartening.
And I get that maybe he took on more than he'd realized, and that there were more problems than he could have imagined, but that doesn't mean he should put everything else on the back burner.
And as for the Mosque, I can't see any reason why it can't or should not be built. It would be like saying that Japanese restaurants shouldn't be allowed in Hawaii because of Pearl Harbor. It's a shame that our country is so blind to facts and so easily lead by stereotypes.
Someone being of the Muslim faith does not make them a Terrorist any more than someone being of German heritage makes them a Nazi.
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Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:30 am
There is a big difference between a Japanese restaurant and a mosque. For one thing its the fact of those that lost there lives. Also they are not going to be a quiet building.
The loud speaker that will be calling them to prayer several times a day will be hard on the survivors or 9-11.
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Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 12:42 pm
Reading some of these comment in this thread, has scared me and makes me feel so much shame.
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Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 1:43 pm
DarkMoonsShadow There is a big difference between a Japanese restaurant and a mosque. For one thing its the fact of those that lost there lives. Also they are not going to be a quiet building. The loud speaker that will be calling them to prayer several times a day will be hard on the survivors or 9-11.
People lost their lives at Pearl Harbor too. FYI, Pearl Harbor = Japanese Bombed us and almost as many people died there as did as a result of 9/11.
Aside from one being a restaurant and the other being a religious/cultural center, where is the difference?
The point I'm making is that both are reminders to the families of the victims of what happened, but yet there are Japanese Restaurants near Pearl Harbor, and I've never heard even a tiny hubbub of a news story about it being an issue.
I'm not trying to be insensitive, and apologize if I have come across that way. I was simply making a realistic comparison.
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Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:05 pm
Daffodil the Destroyer I still think that Obama was a better choice than letting Sarah Palin get anywhere near the White House. However, I do think that he needs to grow a backbone. He's kept to some of his campaign promises but where's the hope and change, huh? Mostly it's just the same old same old. Of course, Congress really are the ones with most of the power as far as laws go. But I do wish that Obama would push harder for his ideas - I think that he's got the potential to guide our country in a great direction if he'll stop letting people walk on him. Of course, I'm in favour of allowing the community center to be built. It's private property, it's not on the WTC site, and it's not going to be a bastion to Islamic domination (nor is it being planned by the type of Muslims who were responsible for 9/11). It's going to house a basketball court, a culinary school, a place for anyone to come and socialise... it will just happen to have a Muslim prayer-space on the top floor. I'm completely with the President on this issue - we should not allow ourselves to be Islamophobic; our country was founded with freedom of religion as one of its core ideals. We should try not to judge the entire religion by the actions of the extremists. Finally a word of sense. I was reading the other comments and actually began to feel sad because of the pure ignorance and lack of thought that was contained within them. You have summed up the majority of my feelings in your paragraph though, and some of the people below you, and that has made me feel better.
The point about keeping promises is true, most politicians lie to get in office and do none of the things they say they are going to. I read an article in the New York Times about two months ago saying President Obama has actually done about 119 of about over 300 things he has said he would do on his campaign. Some of the things are still trying to be done, but Congress (as you mentioned) is definitely holding them up. Most of these people in Congress are thinking about their job safety, not what is best for this country, Republican and Democrat alike.
As for the mosque, as someone else said, it is private property. You can't claim to be a proud American and a capitalist supporter and against private property just because of someone's religion. That just shows your own bias through and through. Regardless of how insensitive it is, I hardly hear these same people claiming it is so wrong protesting every time a private company or individual with money wants to buy up land that horrible tragedies have occurred on. Or if a corporation or individual wants to buy up a building and kick out tons of families, dislocating many (which happens a decent amount in this country), which is very insensitive, these same people have yet to say a word. 9/11 was horrible as the originator of this post stated, for everyone. But our wounds, our mourning, our anger cannot be used as an excuse to blatantly be prejudice against Muslims and their right to buy, own, and sell private property like any other American in this country.
I am much more liberal than Obama, I don't like American politics, period. Laying my bias out on the table. But I pay attention. And I think a lot of people who feel so bad about this mosque not only are ill informed, they are acting on pure emotion.
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