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Jinx Noir
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:45 am


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I LIKE DRUGS. =] Don't you?
Yes or no and why please.
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Part 2 of questioning: Which brings me to another question. How did ya'll first get introduced to drugs, who was it that introduced you, how old were you, and what was your first, your funniest, best or worst experiences? This includes alcohol.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:24 pm


I enjoy pot. Considering what my job is (scrap metal removal), I like a nice joint after work. It helps me relax and get some sleep.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:29 pm


I don't really see anything wrong with recreational drug use sometimes. I just think it is bad when it becomes all someone does, or becomes the focus of their life,. etc. It's one thing to have some fun sometimes, another to be a pathetic burn out.

I don't really like having to pay for anything beyond booze, so i mostly do what is offered to me at parties. Except, I don't like taking anything that "stays with you" like i won't take acid, because i don't like the idea of flashbacks, and i wont take E because it can build up in spinal fluid, and if it is the type someone made in their bathtub, you don't truly know what you are getting.
I like things to affect me only when I take them, within my control, I don't like surprise occurances long after you have taken something.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:45 pm


I'm ******** high right now. lol
I've tried e before (especially at all the raves and clubs in LA). Smoked pot when I was in La. Smoke a lot of spice.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 11:08 pm


I don't care if others do them.

But I don't smoke, anything, or do any drugs that are illegal, or really any at all aside from caffiene. I only drink when it suits the occasion, but I don't get drunk. This is the way I've always been, and I get a lot of questions like "Why?". The only answer I have to that, is that I just simply don't want to, its not in my interests.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:12 am


I bring the subject up because I'm curious, about people in the subculture and their relation to drugs. Because most cybergoths/goths I know have a history of drug use. And I notice that a lot of the older ones that have been in the subculture a while mostly now stick to purely alcohol. No illegal substances whatsoever. Does anyone have any theories on that?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 7:43 pm


Drug use is pertinent in Cyberpunk culture.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:39 pm


CaptainRedBeard
i won't take acid, because i don't like the idea of flashbacks, and i wont take E because it can build up in spinal fluid


Seperate rumor from research. I'm not saying that to be mean, but these are two of the most prevalent rumors that fly around about these substances. Flashbacks aren't a result of the LSD staying in your system, they're a result of the memory portion of your brain being ******** with while your'e frying, so later on when you look at something your brain basically remembers how it would have percieved that image on acid. (Granted your point about not wanting after effects is valid)

as for MDMA, Molly won't cause you any problems as long as you take care of yourself when you roll and you don't roll too often., 5htp, B vitamins, multivitamins like Centrum, etc. all help.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 11:07 pm


Moroseth Anaratharach
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i won't take acid, because i don't like the idea of flashbacks, and i wont take E because it can build up in spinal fluid


Seperate rumor from research. I'm not saying that to be mean, but these are two of the most prevalent rumors that fly around about these substances. Flashbacks aren't a result of the LSD staying in your system, they're a result of the memory portion of your brain being ******** with while your'e frying, so later on when you look at something your brain basically remembers how it would have percieved that image on acid. (Granted your point about not wanting after effects is valid)

as for MDMA, Molly won't cause you any problems as long as you take care of yourself when you roll and you don't roll too often., 5htp, B vitamins, multivitamins like Centrum, etc. all help.


Work on your reading comprehension. I'm not saying that to be mean, but nowhere did I say acid stays in your system. If you look back, read what I said, and think about it a moment... I used the phrase "stays with you". Something in your memory that gets triggered by looking at something, is definitely something that has "stayed with you".

As for MDMA, most of the time it is cut with different chemicals and/or drugs (or sometimes something being sold as E actually has no MDMA in it), depending on where you get it from, so you can get varying effects/problems depending on what is used. I remember my friend telling me about when he went to the woodstock they had several years ago, and they had to make announcements over the intercom telling people not to take the E that was around, people were collapsing into convulsions and stuff. MDMA can cause your body to regulate temperature so poorly, that there have been cases where it caused hypothermia. It has also been associated with several neurological problems, among other things. None of these could really be controlled by vitamin intake, although, avoiding "rolling to often" would help to minimize the chances of some of the adverse effects. There are alot of studies of MDMA done on animals about the effects of using it, one thing they found by studies done on primates was after just a few days steady use, it caused serotonin nerve terminal damage, that was still there years later. There isn't much in the way of studies on humans, especially on the long term aspect. While, MDMA doesn't actually drain spinal fluid, as many think due to an error in a study done in, I think '93, it does leave residue in the spinal fluid, which will stay for a while after you have stopped using it. It is one of the drugs detectable via spinal tap. I had one friend, who used E once a week or so, once tell me when she got her back cracked by a chiropractor, she suddenly felt like she had taken E. I haven't really seen anything for studies on something like that, so I don't know how much fact or truth was behind her statement.

Oh, yeah. I didn't mention I have done much in the way of research in the past?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 11:46 pm


the strangeness
And I notice that a lot of the older ones that have been in the subculture a while mostly now stick to purely alcohol. No illegal substances whatsoever. Does anyone have any theories on that?


I can give you more than a theory! wink Being like one of the oldest in the guild, if not the oldest and having known others in the scene who were my age or older, alot of it stems from the responsibilities some end up with when they get older, be it a career/job that requires random drug testing, or, trying to start a family/raising children, the mortgage on a house, payments on a car that take money that would have gone to drugs before. Also, as you get older, the chances you have been arrested/charged with something increase..so some don't do drugs because they are on probation/parole. You probably also have some who just grew bored with it, or some who got severe addictions, and now don't want to touch anything anymore.
I doubt the decrease in illicit drug users as ages increase is exclusive to our scene. It's just kinda the way things go in general.
Besides what i have already previously mentioned, some of the reason I personally don't do much, is because sometimes I end up working at places that test, or sometimes freelance jobs i have taken here and there have required a piss test, also when I used to participate in different fights, sometimes they test you, and it is much easier to get your piss to show drug free if you are not a habitual user. Oh yeah, there was also the period of time where i was thinking of getting into law enforcement of some kind..
Also, as i briefly touched on earlier...money is a big factor for me... there are sooooo many other things I would rather spend money on.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 12:55 am


CaptainRedBeard
the strangeness
And I notice that a lot of the older ones that have been in the subculture a while mostly now stick to purely alcohol. No illegal substances whatsoever. Does anyone have any theories on that?


I can give you more than a theory! wink Being like one of the oldest in the guild, if not the oldest and having known others in the scene who were my age or older, alot of it stems from the responsibilities some end up with when they get older, be it a career/job that requires random drug testing, or, trying to start a family/raising children, the mortgage on a house, payments on a car that take money that would have gone to drugs before. Also, as you get older, the chances you have been arrested/charged with something increase..so some don't do drugs because they are on probation/parole. You probably also have some who just grew bored with it, or some who got severe addictions, and now don't want to touch anything anymore.
I doubt the decrease in illicit drug users as ages increase is exclusive to our scene. It's just kinda the way things go in general.
Besides what i have already previously mentioned, some of the reason I personally don't do much, is because sometimes I end up working at places that test, or sometimes freelance jobs i have taken here and there have required a piss test, also when I used to participate in different fights, sometimes they test you, and it is much easier to get your piss to show drug free if you are not a habitual user. Oh yeah, there was also the period of time where i was thinking of getting into law enforcement of some kind..
Also, as i briefly touched on earlier...money is a big factor for me... there are sooooo many other things I would rather spend money on.


Well ********..... thanks for covering all the points and leaving no room for discussion hahahaha. I was hopin the question I posed would leave more room for people's opinions and more conversation (which is something this guild is desperately lacking).

Buuuuut, thank you, you're totally right, and I don't think I could have put it in a better or more complete way.
All of those points were things that I had already considered, but I was wondering if anyone would come up with anything a little more immaginative.
PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:30 am


the strangeness
CaptainRedBeard
the strangeness
And I notice that a lot of the older ones that have been in the subculture a while mostly now stick to purely alcohol. No illegal substances whatsoever. Does anyone have any theories on that?


I can give you more than a theory! wink Being like one of the oldest in the guild, if not the oldest and having known others in the scene who were my age or older, alot of it stems from the responsibilities some end up with when they get older, be it a career/job that requires random drug testing, or, trying to start a family/raising children, the mortgage on a house, payments on a car that take money that would have gone to drugs before. Also, as you get older, the chances you have been arrested/charged with something increase..so some don't do drugs because they are on probation/parole. You probably also have some who just grew bored with it, or some who got severe addictions, and now don't want to touch anything anymore.
I doubt the decrease in illicit drug users as ages increase is exclusive to our scene. It's just kinda the way things go in general.
Besides what i have already previously mentioned, some of the reason I personally don't do much, is because sometimes I end up working at places that test, or sometimes freelance jobs i have taken here and there have required a piss test, also when I used to participate in different fights, sometimes they test you, and it is much easier to get your piss to show drug free if you are not a habitual user. Oh yeah, there was also the period of time where i was thinking of getting into law enforcement of some kind..
Also, as i briefly touched on earlier...money is a big factor for me... there are sooooo many other things I would rather spend money on.


Well ********..... thanks for covering all the points and leaving no room for discussion hahahaha. I was hopin the question I posed would leave more room for people's opinions and more conversation (which is something this guild is desperately lacking).

Buuuuut, thank you, you're totally right, and I don't think I could have put it in a better or more complete way.
All of those points were things that I had already considered, but I was wondering if anyone would come up with anything a little more immaginative.


LOL sorry for ruining your conversation starter with my concise and thorough response!

Well...if anyone has any thoughts than what i already stated...or add to something I said... We are all ears!

CaptainRedBeard


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 1:38 am


Something that wasn't mentioned.

I'm sure a reason, obviously not for everyone, but some feel doing drugs is 'edgy', and wrong, so it draws them in. Especially in the Cybergoth/whatever 'alternative' style people, because theres quite a bit of them doing it do be 'different' or whatever stupid reason some people have for doing things. But basically, some people feel the need to do drugs because they feel they will be left out if they don't, and since a lot of people in the cybergoth(I'll just use this as an umbrella term for all the different groups) fashion do do drugs so those getting into at first feel they need to. Not really peer pressure(though I'm sure thats apart of it aswell) but monkey-see monkey-do kind of thing.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 3:05 am


@Rocky: I really really hope that didn't sound as bitchy to you as it did to me just now when I re-read what I posted. I'm sorry!! ...I think I was really tired when I wrote it.


Digital Malevolence
Something that wasn't mentioned.

I'm sure a reason, obviously not for everyone, but some feel doing drugs is 'edgy', and wrong, so it draws them in. Especially in the Cybergoth/whatever 'alternative' style people, because theres quite a bit of them doing it do be 'different' or whatever stupid reason some people have for doing things. But basically, some people feel the need to do drugs because they feel they will be left out if they don't, and since a lot of people in the cybergoth(I'll just use this as an umbrella term for all the different groups) fashion do do drugs so those getting into at first feel they need to. Not really peer pressure(though I'm sure thats apart of it aswell) but monkey-see monkey-do kind of thing.


YES, thank you. Conversation. ^-^ <3

And that's true, that's definitely another angle on it. Although I personally don't know if I know anyone who started off that way. ....although I live in southern California and damn near everyone smokes weed so it's not like.... uncommon... or like.... edgy.... at all lol.

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Jinx Noir
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 3:09 am


Which brings me to another question: How did ya'll first get introduced to drugs, who was it that introduced you, how old were you, and what was your first or your funniest or best or worst experiences? This includes alcohol.
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