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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 6:35 pm
So, I train at my friends Dojo, and, I'm a bigger guy. I've been losing a lot of weight. Um, Cardio just isn't my thing... biggrin
It sure is with everyone at the dojo though. I decide, I am getting into shape. ******** it, I'm going to be sore tomorrow, the Cardio might kill me, or feel like it. But, I came to get into shape and Cardio is just a part of that.
Ten minutes later I puked in the bathroom. xD Everyone was worried about me, I was fine though. I just washed my hands, wiped the toilet seat. And... WEnt back out there. Coming to the lovely discovery after puking your cardio increases slightly.
Frog hops, running, Push ups(True evil torture for slightly pudgy big guys like me with really long legs and an altered center of gravity.) These other weird, upside down sit up things that feel fine at first but they start burning throughout your entire body.
Then we went over some boxing stuff, which I wasn't near as good at. I'm more like. I'll move away from you, or move into you. Come on in, move close to me. I'll use a take down on you or hit a really sensitive area because if it was a real fight I'd be looking to do some damage.
So, boxing slides weren't my thing, but, I kept going along. I was there to get in shape and it wasn't my class. And it's good to know other things.
Then we went into Ju Jitsu. Which, some of it is useful on the ground, but... I found it funny the guys teaching it were exactly the type thinking their one style of fighting would beat all.
My buddy was talking to a cop who wanted to talk about, the use of turtling up on the streets. For those of you who don't know the term if any. Picture a cop getting on their hands and knees, with their butt in the air, back, and duty belt, oh, AND the head wonderfully exposed to any oncoming attackers.
My friend is an ex cop, he basically politely said if he turtles up in a street situation he should go back to the police academy. I also sparred with a ju jitsu blue belt, smaller guy than me, pretty tough though.
He was a nice guy, I liked him. I'm not going to lie, Ju Jitsu does look pretty gay. But it's good exercise for the upper body since it's ground work. And I learned a useful choke if I ever have to deal with someone wearing a long jacket, also how to choke someone with their own shirt. Should go over them a few times just to make sure I have them down knowing me, but good things to have backed up into instinct y'know?
I worked out a much better chambering position and balance for my kicks as the class ended, and we all just kind of wandered around the mat doing whatever until the instructor politely said it was time to go.
And then.... Came two days of being EXTREMELY sore. Slept a lot. And my upper body has rebuilt itself some, some muscle starting to perk up there, I just straighten my arms, and my triceps pop up. My biceps have gotten harder.
Um, yeah... No pain no gain. I've had sore arms that I wasn't even comfortable, holding them above my head for a few days. But, I'd say it was worth it. No Pain, No Gain.
Now I'm just really impatient to test out my new striking power since my triceps grew. xd
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 7:17 pm
Striking ... in the sense of boxing (kickboxing and muay thai follow similiar principles) ... the power is not generated from the arms ... just throw with your arms and you WILL get tried ... no ... power is generated from the hips and it's rotatation ...
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 12:40 am
baka_boy1221 Striking ... in the sense of boxing (kickboxing and muay thai follow similiar principles) ... the power is not generated from the arms ... just throw with your arms and you WILL get tried ... no ... power is generated from the hips and it's rotatation ... Some strength would come from the arms too, not all of it for a decent punch. but surely some would
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 6:43 pm
http://www.cracked.com/article_16595_6-great-martial-arts-killing-man-with-your-bare-hands_p2.html
Look what's number 1 mrgreen
I have to say though, if someone who knew Silat was trying to kill me. That would scare the s**t out of me. Sambo interests me and It would have been sheer blasphemy if Muay Thai didn't make it onto that list.
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 7:11 pm
Satrevi http://www.cracked.com/article_16595_6-great-martial-arts-killing-man-with-your-bare-hands_p2.html Look what's number 1 mrgreen I have to say though, if someone who knew Silat was trying to kill me. That would scare the s**t out of me. Sambo interests me and It would have been sheer blasphemy if Muay Thai didn't make it onto that list. Well Krav Maga is just that ... it is purely a battlefield art and a self defense art ... everything else has some sort of sport aspect to it ... But then again everything gets killed by a bullet ...
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 7:26 pm
Satrevi baka_boy1221 Striking ... in the sense of boxing (kickboxing and muay thai follow similiar principles) ... the power is not generated from the arms ... just throw with your arms and you WILL get tried ... no ... power is generated from the hips and it's rotatation ... Some strength would come from the arms too, not all of it for a decent punch. but surely some would True ... some of it is arms ... but a punch's true power comes from the ground up ...
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:55 am
afromma Satrevi baka_boy1221 Striking ... in the sense of boxing (kickboxing and muay thai follow similiar principles) ... the power is not generated from the arms ... just throw with your arms and you WILL get tried ... no ... power is generated from the hips and it's rotatation ... Some strength would come from the arms too, not all of it for a decent punch. but surely some would True ... some of it is arms ... but a punch's true power comes from the ground up ... also, that snapping at the last second as you go in. There's a few elements to a good punch. I like being able to semi sound like I know what I'm talking about. When really I'm just trying to string things together in sensible way to make conversation xd
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:47 pm
Satrevi afromma Satrevi baka_boy1221 Striking ... in the sense of boxing (kickboxing and muay thai follow similiar principles) ... the power is not generated from the arms ... just throw with your arms and you WILL get tried ... no ... power is generated from the hips and it's rotatation ... Some strength would come from the arms too, not all of it for a decent punch. but surely some would True ... some of it is arms ... but a punch's true power comes from the ground up ... also, that snapping at the last second as you go in. There's a few elements to a good punch. I like being able to semi sound like I know what I'm talking about. When really I'm just trying to string things together in sensible way to make conversation xd True that some arm strength is needed for a good punch but as everyone else said, it comes from the rotation of the hips and shoulders, and from the pivoting of your feet...Also extra power can be added by rotating your hand and arm...Power comes from the legs, up through the body, and out the arm...In Ryu Te Kempo Karate (That's the style I do), we like to hit with the 2 foreknuckles (the two biggest knuckles on your hand) for a more precise strike... I saw that someone was posting about Silat...I'm going to a 5 hour Silat siminar sometime this month...It is going to be awesome XD...
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Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 3:24 pm
Actually, I have to concede on part of the debate. I've been reading a Krav Maga book to get the finer details and to know the background more. And... It's not about physical prowess, it's about simple combinations of movements. I read this in a section of the book.
And while strength would give more power. The power would come from, quite a bit more than just the arms.
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 2:36 pm
That's what I was saying...That power doesn't just come from the arms but from rotation and from your legs, up through the body and out of the arm when you punch...
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 5:53 am
From the easier to understand scientific viewpoint of the structure of a properly thrown punch, the power is derived from a specific line of force. This line originates at the base of the foot (usually the foot in the rear position) and follows an arcing trajectory to a point on the surface of the fist that varies dependent upon the way that the fist and arm are held. The smaller the curvature of this line, the faster the punch, while the more drastic the curvature of the line, the more powerful the punch. This does not, of course, take into concepts such as drilling jing or the kiai which are supplementary techniques to a given strike.
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:32 pm
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:59 pm
And of course boxing gots the best punch ...
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:13 am
ladymuaythai And of course boxing gots the best punch ... Stereotypical.
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:11 pm
quiet_way ladymuaythai And of course boxing gots the best punch ... Stereotypical. I don't think one punch from a different style is any better than another...It depends more on the ability of the person, not the style they do...
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