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 Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 6:16 pm
my friend took a philosophy class in college last year. apparently, her professor was an atheist because he came up with this concept, one much like the one in the post "fallacy one":
If God is perfect, then what he creates must also be perfect, because otherwise he is creating imperfections and one who is perfect does not create imperfections.
God created humans.
Humans are VERY flawed, and therefore imperfect.
God is imperfect.
If God is imperfect, than he cannot be considered a god because gods are typically the epitome of perfection.
Therefore, God does not exist.
what do you think? smile
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 6:57 pm
I think it's an old argument and is still flawed.
It's based on two flawed ideas: that God is perfect and God is one, specific idea.
God does not have to be perfect in order to exist, and God doesn't have to have created anything in order to exist. Gods are not considered perfect, in general. There was plenty of imperfect gods in Greek, Norse, and Indian cultures, but being imperfect didn't stop them from being gods.
Likewise, there's no consensus as to what God really is, so to say that God is imperfect is like saying "the ground is wet". It's so unspecific that it's meaningless.
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:22 am
True, but when it comes to Catholocism in particular, almost every believer will tell you that God is perfect and that God is one: the father of Jesus. If you use this argument against all religion, yes it is flawed, but I believe it was meant to target Catholocism in particular.
Edit: Disregard that. I forgot to take into account the Holy Trinity. I guess you're right my bad sweatdrop
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 10:29 pm
well, i just quote epicurus.
Is God willing, but not able, to prevent evil?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
The he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither willing nor able?
Then why call him god?
so simple, and yet so true.
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