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Im A Little Pea

PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:05 am


So as every year, the Institute of Higher Education of Shanghai Jiao Tong University in China has published their highly acclaimed Academic Ranking of World Universities, ranking universities all around the world based on alumni's achievements - Noble Prizes, highly cited researches, etc.

Something that has really bothered me has caught my eye. They were ranking many different fields separately, to see which university was best at which field. They had chemistry, biology, mathematics, economics. They had not at all looked at humanities, not one bit. It's like philosophy, literature, linguistics, history - as if all of those were not even worthy to be taken into account. Seeing the categories, it's obvious that these fields have just been ignored completely. In fact the actual ranking of the universities was based on their alumni's achievements in exact sciences and social sciences (and it seems like when they say social sciences, they mean economics).

There was once a time when humanities were at the very core of higher and basic education; as technology becomes more and more complex, I can see why exact sciences are so important to us; however, it seems like this past century humanities are progressively deemed unimportant.
I'm a student of linguistics and Arabic literature; the most common response I get is about my fields being "useless". I honestly don't see how any field could be useless. The purpose of academic studies is research, it's getting a better understanding of the world around us, it's enriching our lives with knowledge.
I'm sure the study of computer sciences is much more profitable than philosophy; however losing those important fields, to me, feels like a loss too great to bear.

Discuss this, ARWU and general disregard toward humanities.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 11:03 am


I've never heard of ARWU, in the U.S there's the U.S News rankings which I never really liked.
I don't think a college can be "ranked" well.
I mean, there's a lot going on, and people might be interested in a college with a good department for their major and maybe certain clubs. There's no way they'd be able to rank a college on small details like that so people should just research possible colleges.
I've known people who worked hard to get into high prestige (and high ranked) colleges and then had no idea what they wanted to do there.
It's kind of sad...

Bokusenou


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Sparkly Shapeshifter

PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 12:42 pm


Wow, thats a bummer. Not a humanities categorey.
Also, on the map on the front page - when the countries are grey and cannot be clicked, what does that mean?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 3:32 pm


Maybe you should start a ranking for humanities programs. surprised

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Those rankings are actually sort of useful to me, as I want to go into physical sciences. ninja

(Maybe biological...I don't know for sure yet.)

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I think these rankings exist so that prospective attendants to the universities can see who has the best equipment/research opportunities, the most accomplished faculty, and a nice endowment.

I don't know if humanities programs would really need all the equipment and facilities that science programs would...humanities is probably a free-er discipline in a way, and more flexible... *shrug*

Henneth Annun
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Bokusenou

PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 5:17 pm


Call Me Apple
Wow, thats a bummer. Not a humanities categorey.
Also, on the map on the front page - when the countries are grey and cannot be clicked, what does that mean?

Probably that they are unfortunately no ranked universities there right? question .
PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 7:31 pm


Bokusenou
Call Me Apple
Wow, thats a bummer. Not a humanities categorey.
Also, on the map on the front page - when the countries are grey and cannot be clicked, what does that mean?

Probably that they are unfortunately no ranked universities there right? question .
I think so too.

Im A Little Pea


Custom Kiwi

PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 7:40 pm


Apparently I'm at New Zealand's number one university. smile
PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 8:48 pm


Im A Little Pea
Bokusenou
Call Me Apple
Wow, thats a bummer. Not a humanities categorey.
Also, on the map on the front page - when the countries are grey and cannot be clicked, what does that mean?

Probably that they are unfortunately no ranked universities there right? question .
I think so too.
Grey countries could be one of several things:

1) the agency couldn't collect the necessary information because it doesn't exist or there was too much instability in the region
2) none of the universities there were that good
3) the country refused to participate
4) there are no universities there

Henneth Annun
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