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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:43 pm
When will it end! They've almost completely irradicated any aspect of religion in school, but they still force even highschool students to recite the "Pledge of Alligence" which states "under god".
As a "loud and proud" atheist (just something I call myself haha) I always sat down during the pledge to protest this, I was once told I would be "written up" (which is the teacher reporting you to the diciplinarian, if you didn't understand the slang) if I didn't stand up for it. I told them they could write me up and punish me all they wanted to, but it wouldn't make me stand, so they never did.
I just think it's sad students are unknowingly being subjected to not necessarily support religion, but it's almost basically what's happening.
So what say you? Were you forced into a catholic school by your parents? Do you have any similar stories? Or just what is your opinion on the matter?
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:47 pm
Another quick anecdote!
Once I was late to class and was running through the hall to get there and was forced to stop in the middle of the hall to recite the pledge, just like everyone else who was late, making me even later of course. Since I had no seat to sit in in protest, I sat on the floor. One of our religion-crazed teachers had the balls to say "Oh yea our country is so horrible you can't stand for the pledge" Obviously being sarcastic, so I simply said "No, it's because I dont believe in god!"
You should've seen the look on her face heart
I would like to hear any other stories such as these, especially from any atheists forced to go to Catholic School.
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:38 am
Speaking of religion in school, in my English class we were required to give a speech. In a room full of Christians i gave a speech on why i was an atheist, and my teacher was one of the biggest Christians Ive ever met. You should have seen their faces.
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:31 am
Pfft, your school failed. They can't punish you for not saying the pledge. Freedom of speech thing, IIRC. I just started leaving out that part when I said the pledge. I like my country because I'm allowed to do stuff like that.
I went to a Lutheran private school for a year and a half. It was approximately the size of a port-a-potty and I was one of four girls.
Okay, I actually really liked it there in some ways-- it wasn't ******** DISEASE RIDDEN and dirty and horrible like my first public school, for one thing, but the constant religious stuff was exhausting. I already felt out of place and uncomfortable in church even though I was trying really hard to be a good Christian, so it was awkward being there every day. I didn't feel quite as pious as everyone else, somehow. xD
Thankfully it wasn't a really freaky brainwashy place. We actually got pretty damn good scientific education. I wasn't to the age where they start teaching you about the tough topics like evolution and so on, so it didn't affect me.
But that chapel! No air conditioning! And the uniforms! Long sleeves required on chapel days no matter what the weather's like!
GOD WANTS YOU TO BE ITCHY AND OVERHEATED.
So yeah. Point of post: Not all religious schools are totally a**-backwards insane. They can be pretty nice. But I don't think kids should be forced into going. x___x
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:45 pm
Hyaku59 Speaking of religion in school, in my English class we were required to give a speech. In a room full of Christians i gave a speech on why i was an atheist, and my teacher was one of the biggest Christians Ive ever met. You should have seen their faces. Thats what I like to hear!
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:58 pm
may-contain-evil Pfft, your school failed. They can't punish you for not saying the pledge. Freedom of speech thing, IIRC. I just started leaving out that part when I said the pledge. I like my country because I'm allowed to do stuff like that. I went to a Lutheran private school for a year and a half. It was approximately the size of a port-a-potty and I was one of four girls. Okay, I actually really liked it there in some ways-- it wasn't ******** DISEASE RIDDEN and dirty and horrible like my first public school, for one thing, but the constant religious stuff was exhausting. I already felt out of place and uncomfortable in church even though I was trying really hard to be a good Christian, so it was awkward being there every day. I didn't feel quite as pious as everyone else, somehow. xD Thankfully it wasn't a really freaky brainwashy place. We actually got pretty damn good scientific education. I wasn't to the age where they start teaching you about the tough topics like evolution and so on, so it didn't affect me. But that chapel! No air conditioning! And the uniforms! Long sleeves required on chapel days no matter what the weather's like! GOD WANTS YOU TO BE ITCHY AND OVERHEATED. So yeah. Point of post: Not all religious schools are totally a**-backwards insane. They can be pretty nice. But I don't think kids should be forced into going. x___x Yea I mean dont get me wrong if the school remains informational on the iffy topics like evolution and doesnt constantly shove their religion down your throats, more power to them. I just feel sorry for the kids being forced by their parents to attend, when they couldn't care less about religion. Its not really the schools fault as much as it is the parents.
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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:28 am
Religion hasn't left our schools... Ya, it's not in the text books or anything like that (exception for one teacher), but the cult in my town is able to hook, line, and sinker any of the students. Of course, they do this by luring the kids in with free coffees, games, and crap like that. All to make their group look "cool" while encouraging their bait that they're "cool". One parent raised hell a couple years ago after her kid was dragged along and snuck out with them, but little has changed..
Oh, then there was one time the pastors came out and passed out little pocket sized bibles to everyone at the bus lines and, of course, never got any form of punishment for it even though it was on school property and technically still school time.
Seriously... I hate this cult... I want them disbanded...
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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 3:13 pm
My English teacher last year liked to go on rants about how all the problems in the world are caused by 'Godless people' who think everything they do is right. She also ranted about how we're a Christian nation and how that will never change (and this is public school, mind you).
I wanted so badly to stand up and ask if my entire nuclear family was evil, but some of my best friends (who are Catholic) were in the class so I decided not to sweatdrop
But if I ever catch her saying that crap again, I'm giving her a piece of my mind.
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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 6:03 pm
I've attented two Chatholic schools... One was stricter - they made up kneel to pray! At that school, I had the one teacher for religion, history, geography and english... In English, I did a book report on "Keeping you a Secret", which is about two lesbians. I was not allowed to do the book report, and althoug she had to give me full marks (cos my work was good, dammit!) she warned me to never to do it again or else she'd have to ask the priest to talk to me... So of course I did it again... And I got sent to the priest who was like "lol wtf?" and really didn't give a crap...
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:11 am
I went to a private catholic school for a year. It was the worst decision I ever made--and this was before I became an atheist. I don't know that it was terrible because it was catholic... I just know it was awful. Almost all of the teachers and administrators were mean and petty, and all of the students were either lifeless and downtrodden or trouble-making bullies. I was the former...
Well, at least it made me appreciate my public school a lot more.
While in said public school, I did have a rebellious streak at one point where I refused to stand for the pledge of allegiance. Again, this was before I was an atheist--I wasn't protesting on religious grounds, merely on the grounds that it was ridiculous that we were required to renew our oath to our country every single day. It smacked of brainwashing and indoctrination, which of course, it is.
The first day I sat through the pledge, the teacher just gave me a look. The second day, she motioned frantically for me to stand up. The third day, she told me to stand, and I still didn't. That's when I got sent to the principle's office.
I sat and talked to him a long time, but the conversation was boring and repetitive. He would say I had to stand for the pledge, I would say I don't have to, on the grounds of free speech. He would say well, maybe, but you have to stand anyway. Basically, he was acknowledging that I legally didn't have to, but I wasn't leaving the office until I agreed to stand. Finally, I agreed to stand during the pledge, and just not recite it.
Who knows how long I would have been in there if I hadn't. x_x
My parents got called and everything. But I never received any punishment, since I hadn't technically done anything wrong, aside from horrifying my conservative teacher and classmates.
I did get some grief from other students about it, though. I even had some guy I didn't know approach me in the public restroom, ask if I was the guy who wouldn't stand for the pledge, and told me I was pathetic. x_x It was kind of a surreal experience.
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 3:03 am
The Iron Magus I went to a private catholic school for a year. It was the worst decision I ever made--and this was before I became an atheist. I don't know that it was terrible because it was catholic... I just know it was awful. Almost all of the teachers and administrators were mean and petty, and all of the students were either lifeless and downtrodden or trouble-making bullies. I was the former... Well, at least it made me appreciate my public school a lot more. While in said public school, I did have a rebellious streak at one point where I refused to stand for the pledge of allegiance. Again, this was before I was an atheist--I wasn't protesting on religious grounds, merely on the grounds that it was ridiculous that we were required to renew our oath to our country every single day. It smacked of brainwashing and indoctrination, which of course, it is. The first day I sat through the pledge, the teacher just gave me a look. The second day, she motioned frantically for me to stand up. The third day, she told me to stand, and I still didn't. That's when I got sent to the principle's office. I sat and talked to him a long time, but the conversation was boring and repetitive. He would say I had to stand for the pledge, I would say I don't have to, on the grounds of free speech. He would say well, maybe, but you have to stand anyway. Basically, he was acknowledging that I legally didn't have to, but I wasn't leaving the office until I agreed to stand. Finally, I agreed to stand during the pledge, and just not recite it. Who knows how long I would have been in there if I hadn't. x_x My parents got called and everything. But I never received any punishment, since I hadn't technically done anything wrong, aside from horrifying my conservative teacher and classmates. I did get some grief from other students about it, though. I even had some guy I didn't know approach me in the public restroom, ask if I was the guy who wouldn't stand for the pledge, and told me I was pathetic. x_x It was kind of a surreal experience. Lol. I pretty much went through the same thing with the pledge. I was in a group of a few students that stopped standing because of Bush, the war, and how un-American America is now. Most of us got sent to the principals' office, I was one of the lucky few that didn't. Mostly everyone was in the office for hours trying battling it all out, but thankfully, the principal decided to back down and sit in at the debate team while they hashed it out. Debate team failed to back up forcefully standing, so the principal ruled that nobody is forced to stand. The next assembly, the majority of the student body wasn't standing and it stayed that way until even now, lol. Now if only I could go back in time and fight off the principals when the entire school decided to skip classes and protest... Bastards gave the entire school mandatory detention with expulsion if we didn't show up (sick, dead gramma, wedding, on last dying breath, whatever. 0 "excuse")
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:18 pm
My music teacher didn't ever really address Religion..until she showed us the song "Dear God" by XTC; good song and points to be atheist. But alas, she was fired. crying
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:56 pm
I used to be in a catholic school... till i came to school with a dio concert shirt, radio playing "After forever" by black sabbath, and an amputator ring on each middle finger. I flipped off a teacher, and I got expelled. then my parents let me transfer to my choice of school.
man, i hate catholic school.
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:37 am
oh, and at yer first post ribgy: why would they get you in trouble for not participating in something about freedom!?! thats incredibly hypocritical!!!
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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:15 pm
Hyaku59 Speaking of religion in school, in my English class we were required to give a speech. In a room full of Christians i gave a speech on why i was an atheist, and my teacher was one of the biggest Christians Ive ever met. You should have seen their faces. Trying going to a Lutheran private school and being the only Atheist... Fun stuff. They keep asking me things.. Drives me insane..
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