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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 11:56 am
Alright, call me a bit crazy but I love hearing about disney conspiracy theories and if you know disney, you know that there are a ton of people who love to come up with these crazy stories and ideas.
Anyways, whether you have a conspiracy you heard and would like to share, or you found your own special conspiracy all by your own, then post them here, laughs and giggles all around.
These aren't to be taken seriously, meaning that there is to be no bashing, mocking, or anything of that sort here, this is for fun alright.
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First Conspiracy:
The nazi pinocchio theory: Someone had come up with the idea that Walt Disney had collaborated with Nazis to create the animated movie pinocchio as nazi propaganda. In the movie, Pinocchio is the innocent german boy who becomes tainted by the fox and the cat (who symbolize homosexuals), Stromboli ( a gypsy), and the Coachman (A Jew), all whom are evil. The blue fairy, blonde and blue eyes, can save pinocchio, etc.
You get the point.
I personally thought this idea was just way farfetched but funny as heck. First off, pinocchio is set in Italy ((the lederhosen may throw you off, I know)) and secondly, these assumptions seem like a big streeetch to me if you see my point.
Anyway, believe it if you want, but to me, this will always be one of my personal favorite conspiracies.
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 2:27 pm
Somehow, that all just sounded insane. rofl
I mean, don't get me wrong, I think Walt Disney was part of a great many scandals and I know he was a racist man. Also, I have heard that he didn't like Jews. That being said, I have a hard time believing Pinnochio is Nazi propoganda.
However, I've never liked the fact that the black workers on the island are portrayed as blobs. Or how in Dumbo the black circus workers have no faces.
Sure, everyone back then was racist, but I really don't like Walt Disney. I mean, his animation teams on a bunch of films were underpaid Mexicans who didn't speak English and had to work crappy hours.
Anyway, I've harped long enough about this and I can tell I'm going to get a bunch of angry people yelling at me for my opinions. *bracing myself*
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Ebil-NekoCat Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 2:33 pm
I always felt the reason why Disney was so "antisemetic" was because all his big rivals in the movie business were Jewish, so if it had been any other race it wouldn't have mattered, it was just those people he didn't like -shrugs-
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:54 pm
I heard that in that rescuers mivie, the one with the two mice, when they are flying on the back of the seagull or whatever it is, in one of the windows they pass is a naked lady.
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 5:19 pm
H O R S E S are L O V E I heard that in that rescuers mivie, the one with the two mice, when they are flying on the back of the seagull or whatever it is, in one of the windows they pass is a naked lady. That one was proven, a disgruntled employee came forward (the animater) and even said Disney corporation had no knowledge of it but then, The Disney Corporation then fired him and removed that window all together, also he was sued I believe also.
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 5:31 pm
Epcot Illuminations H O R S E S are L O V E I heard that in that rescuers mivie, the one with the two mice, when they are flying on the back of the seagull or whatever it is, in one of the windows they pass is a naked lady. That one was proven, a disgruntled employee came forward (the animater) and even said Disney corporation had no knowledge of it but then, The Disney Corporation then fired him and removed that window all together, also he was sued I believe also. serves him right, what the X= X= X= X= was he thinking?
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 5:38 pm
Ebil-NekoCat Somehow, that all just sounded insane. rofl I mean, don't get me wrong, I think Walt Disney was part of a great many scandals and I know he was a racist man. Also, I have heard that he didn't like Jews. That being said, I have a hard time believing Pinnochio is Nazi propoganda. However, I've never liked the fact that the black workers on the island are portrayed as blobs. Or how in Dumbo the black circus workers have no faces. Sure, everyone back then was racist, but I really don't like Walt Disney. I mean, his animation teams on a bunch of films were underpaid Mexicans who didn't speak English and had to work crappy hours. Anyway, I've harped long enough about this and I can tell I'm going to get a bunch of angry people yelling at me for my opinions. *bracing myself* The black blobs I never saw as black men, and forgive me if I seem rude, but I think that the idea that its symbolism of black people is a bit of a stretch. After all, in one of the scenes, they're hairy almost like gorillas, I really do believe that it was just a way to make the situation all the more scary with big shadow like monsters being on the island.
And as for Walt being anti-Semitic, I'm not so sure about that one either, I remember reading a biography that revealed that one of Walt's employees was anti Semitic, and this employee was in charge of hiring new workers, but wouldn't hire jews, and Walt got the rap.
*shrugs* Just some ideas to throw out there.
And yes, there are a bunch of scandalous sexual stuff in some of the movies, though this is the act of individual workers and not the company necessarily.
;3
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Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 3:58 pm
alley-lion Ebil-NekoCat Somehow, that all just sounded insane. rofl I mean, don't get me wrong, I think Walt Disney was part of a great many scandals and I know he was a racist man. Also, I have heard that he didn't like Jews. That being said, I have a hard time believing Pinnochio is Nazi propoganda. However, I've never liked the fact that the black workers on the island are portrayed as blobs. Or how in Dumbo the black circus workers have no faces. Sure, everyone back then was racist, but I really don't like Walt Disney. I mean, his animation teams on a bunch of films were underpaid Mexicans who didn't speak English and had to work crappy hours. Anyway, I've harped long enough about this and I can tell I'm going to get a bunch of angry people yelling at me for my opinions. *bracing myself* The black blobs I never saw as black men, and forgive me if I seem rude, but I think that the idea that its symbolism of black people is a bit of a stretch. After all, in one of the scenes, they're hairy almost like gorillas, I really do believe that it was just a way to make the situation all the more scary with big shadow like monsters being on the island.
And as for Walt being anti-Semitic, I'm not so sure about that one either, I remember reading a biography that revealed that one of Walt's employees was anti Semitic, and this employee was in charge of hiring new workers, but wouldn't hire jews, and Walt got the rap.
*shrugs* Just some ideas to throw out there.
And yes, there are a bunch of scandalous sexual stuff in some of the movies, though this is the act of individual workers and not the company necessarily.
;3I agree with alley on this. The blobs were there for the purpose of mystery, not to represent black people.
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Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 4:21 pm
Epcot Illuminations alley-lion Ebil-NekoCat Somehow, that all just sounded insane. rofl I mean, don't get me wrong, I think Walt Disney was part of a great many scandals and I know he was a racist man. Also, I have heard that he didn't like Jews. That being said, I have a hard time believing Pinnochio is Nazi propoganda. However, I've never liked the fact that the black workers on the island are portrayed as blobs. Or how in Dumbo the black circus workers have no faces. Sure, everyone back then was racist, but I really don't like Walt Disney. I mean, his animation teams on a bunch of films were underpaid Mexicans who didn't speak English and had to work crappy hours. Anyway, I've harped long enough about this and I can tell I'm going to get a bunch of angry people yelling at me for my opinions. *bracing myself* The black blobs I never saw as black men, and forgive me if I seem rude, but I think that the idea that its symbolism of black people is a bit of a stretch. After all, in one of the scenes, they're hairy almost like gorillas, I really do believe that it was just a way to make the situation all the more scary with big shadow like monsters being on the island.
And as for Walt being anti-Semitic, I'm not so sure about that one either, I remember reading a biography that revealed that one of Walt's employees was anti Semitic, and this employee was in charge of hiring new workers, but wouldn't hire jews, and Walt got the rap.
*shrugs* Just some ideas to throw out there.
And yes, there are a bunch of scandalous sexual stuff in some of the movies, though this is the act of individual workers and not the company necessarily.
;3I agree with alley on this. The blobs were there for the purpose of mystery, not to represent black people. Am I the only Disney fan out there who believes that "I seen an Elephant fly" was a great song - regardless of the implications involved?
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Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 4:38 pm
KimCare Epcot Illuminations alley-lion Ebil-NekoCat Somehow, that all just sounded insane. rofl I mean, don't get me wrong, I think Walt Disney was part of a great many scandals and I know he was a racist man. Also, I have heard that he didn't like Jews. That being said, I have a hard time believing Pinnochio is Nazi propoganda. However, I've never liked the fact that the black workers on the island are portrayed as blobs. Or how in Dumbo the black circus workers have no faces. Sure, everyone back then was racist, but I really don't like Walt Disney. I mean, his animation teams on a bunch of films were underpaid Mexicans who didn't speak English and had to work crappy hours. Anyway, I've harped long enough about this and I can tell I'm going to get a bunch of angry people yelling at me for my opinions. *bracing myself* The black blobs I never saw as black men, and forgive me if I seem rude, but I think that the idea that its symbolism of black people is a bit of a stretch. After all, in one of the scenes, they're hairy almost like gorillas, I really do believe that it was just a way to make the situation all the more scary with big shadow like monsters being on the island.
And as for Walt being anti-Semitic, I'm not so sure about that one either, I remember reading a biography that revealed that one of Walt's employees was anti Semitic, and this employee was in charge of hiring new workers, but wouldn't hire jews, and Walt got the rap.
*shrugs* Just some ideas to throw out there.
And yes, there are a bunch of scandalous sexual stuff in some of the movies, though this is the act of individual workers and not the company necessarily.
;3I agree with alley on this. The blobs were there for the purpose of mystery, not to represent black people. Am I the only Disney fan out there who believes that "I seen an Elephant fly" was a great song - regardless of the implications involved? Oh of course not! My friend and I are huge fans of Dumbo and that song.
Yea, racism is involved in movies, I usually don't let that turn me off though. You realize, okay that was wrong, but throwing a giant hissy fit over it and saying 'this song is evil I can't watch it' well, I think that is just overreacting, personally.
There was racism in Dumbo and other movies, but that wasn't the point of those movies, the point of dumbo was not to mock african americans and I realize that there are bits in there that do just that, but I don't want that to prevent me from viewing the rest of the movie that is frankly, beautiful and well rendered.
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Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 5:48 pm
I honestly believe that people make up things to make Disney look..not so innocent.
I mean look at people of today. Of the past. Throughout History. People LOVE to make people look bad. Those who are incredibly innocent MUST have some evil in them. And those who are incredibly evil must have some good in them.
Walt Disney-Racist (I guess the evil..) Adolf Hitler- Wanted to attend Art School (I guess the good..)
Bad examples but you get the point :/
Now yes Disney has come across many problems throughout it. But people sign up to do these kinds of things. People have different intentions with what they want to do in their job and what not. One guy may have wanted to throw in a naked lady in a disney movie since he was 16. Another guy may have just wanted to do the beautiful artwork of the woods of Sleeping Beauty. And a third person may have wanted to kill all the characters by slowly ruining each character's reputation lol. You never know :/
Examples of people ruining people's reputations: Lady Gaga is a man Ciara is a man and revealed it on Oprah (supposidly-however it's a complete lie -.-) The man who put out Miley Cyrus's no underwear shot online The man who found Miley Cyrus's pics to Nick Jonas and put them online Same thing as above-Vanessa Hudgens to Zac Efron Adrian Bailon to..I'm not sure who. But whoever was her bf at the time Chris Crocker (the man is defending someone and he gets insulted :/ way to take a fall chris i respect him a lot he stood up for Britney) Michael Jackson likes little boys Hitlers grandmother was a Jew
GUYS THE LIST GOES ON! Now some of these may be true but the point is that people LOVE ruining others-in any way possible.
Mr. Disney was a racist, but I doubt he used his movies to get out the word "HEY I'M A RACIST LET'S MESS WITH EVERY RACE OUT THERE biggrin " Because if that's the case-then every single movie disney has made can be taken in some racist way or another. :I There has been one movie that is taken for sure as racist, even though it wasn't meant to be that way-I cannot remember the name at the movie but I heard they only made a few of copies of that movie because the media was so against it. :I
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Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 6:25 pm
This is a ACTUAL letter sent by someone:
Dear Straight Dope:
I have heard of many perverted things "hidden" in various Disney movies. Some of these include: the tower on the original cover of The Little Mermaid that bears a stricking resemblance to the male genitalia, a scene in The Little Mermaid where the priest has an erection, a part in The Lion King where the dust rises spelling out SEX, and a scene in Aladdin where Aladdin can be heard saying "good teenagers, take off your clothes." Are these things for real, coincidental, or just little adult antics added in by the animators? Please shed some light on these mysteries and inform me of any that I missed.
— Ryan from Castro Valley
And rumor has it it turned out to be true.
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Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:00 pm
alley-lion KimCare Am I the only Disney fan out there who believes that "I seen an Elephant fly" was a great song - regardless of the implications involved? Oh of course not! My friend and I are huge fans of Dumbo and that song.
Yea, racism is involved in movies, I usually don't let that turn me off though. You realize, okay that was wrong, but throwing a giant hissy fit over it and saying 'this song is evil I can't watch it' well, I think that is just overreacting, personally.
There was racism in Dumbo and other movies, but that wasn't the point of those movies, the point of dumbo was not to mock african americans and I realize that there are bits in there that do just that, but I don't want that to prevent me from viewing the rest of the movie that is frankly, beautiful and well rendered.
The movie Song of the South is another film that has such conflicting messages...but it also holds a special place in my heart for two reasons. The man known as Uncle Remus was actually on a plantation in my homestate of Louisiana and the late, great Oscar winning actress Hattie Mcdaniel (please forgive my missspelling but I think y'all get the idea)
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Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:32 pm
SONG OF THE SOUTH! THAT'S THE MOVIE I WAS THINKING OF! rofl I've never seen it though. :/
See what I mean though? Rumor D: I love that someone actually went to investigate this though c:
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