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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:59 pm


SUOMI | FINNISH


Finnish (suomi) is the official language of Finland, alongside Swedish. It’s spoken by about 6 million people in the world, but most of its speakers live in Finland or in the neighboring countries. Finnish is a member of the Finno-Ugric language family which also includes, among other minor languages, Estonian and Hungarian. More accurately Finnish can be classified as a Baltic-Finnic language with Estonian.

There are two main variations of Finnish, the other one being the standard language (yleiskieli), and the other one the spoken language (puhekieli). I’m going to teach you mostly the standard language and its written form, the book language (kirjakieli), as the spoken language may differ from region to region and often the standardized one is what most people understand, even if it might not be something they use in their everyday life.
PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:08 pm


LESSONS


1. PRONUNCIATION - The Alphabet
2. PRONUNCIATION - Short and Long Sounds
3. GRAMMAR - Vowel Harmony
4. VOCABULARY - Basic Phrases
5. PERSONAL PRONOUNS

COMING SOON
6. VERBS - Conjugation Group I

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:09 pm


RESERVED


Reserved for future need. :')
PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:26 pm


PRONUNCIATION – The Alphabet


In Finnish, one letter equals one sound. For example in English the letter O can be pronounced differently in different words (show, shower..). This is something the Finnish language doesn’t have. As said, one letter equals one sound, which means that no matter in which word you use the letter, it will always sound the same. Here’s a list of how the Finnish alphabet are pronounced.

A | aa | like A in WHAT
B | bee | like B in BIG
C | see | Usually pronounced the same way as S but occasionally also pronounced as K
D | dee| The same as the English D
E | ee| like E in BET
F | äf | like F in FOX
G | gee | like G in GIRL
H | hoo | like H in HOME
I | ii | like I in FIT
J | jii | like the letter Y in English
K | koo | A bit softer than the English K
L | äl | The same as the English L
M | äm | The same as the English M
N | än | The same as the English N
O | oo | like O in TOP (British English), or a bit like A in ALL
P | pee | A bit softer than the English P
Q | kuu | A bit of a mix of G and K, followed by the letter U
R | är | A rolling R
S | äs | Like S in SAVE
T | tee | A bit softer than the English T
U | uu | like U in FULL
V | vee | The same as the English V
W | kaksoisvee | The same as V
X | äks | Like X in FIX
Y | yy | I find this the most difficult letter to explain as the English language totally lacks the sound for the Finnish Y. In case you know German of French though, the Finnish Y is the same as Ü (U-umlaut) in German and in French it’s close to the French U.
Z | zet(a) | like TS in BATS
Å | ruotsalainen oo | Is included in the Finnish alphabet but is not actually used in the language at all. It’s only on the list because it’s used in Swedish and Swedish is the other official language of Finland. But as you’re learning Finnish, even though this letter is on the list of alphabets, you can pretty much ignore it. :')
Ä | ää | Similar to the A in HAT
Ö | öö | Also another difficult letter to explain but it’s close to the U in FUR.

The vowels
A E I O U Y Ä Ö

The consonants
B C D F G H J K L M N P Q R S T V W X Z

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-palasokeri-

PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:50 pm


PRONUNCIATION – Short and Long Sounds


In Finnish, there are both short and long sounds. As already said, one letter equals one sound so what are these short and long sounds all about? Isn’t Finnish supposed to lack such? Well, the answer is simple, the short sounds simply are a single letter and the long sounds are double letters (two of the same letter after one another, for example KK, OO). Now there shouldn’t be any explaining about this, right? It sounds pretty obvious, so why am I telling you about this?

The reason is that these short and long sounds are extremely important in Finnish and actually not as easy to recognize or pronounce for foreigners as you might think. Recognizing the differences between short and long sounds and being able to pronounce them correctly is crucial so that you won’t make mistakes like these:
tapaa (= meet), tappaa (= kill)
tuuli (= wind), tuli (= fire), tulli (= customs)
The whole meaning of the word might change dramatically if you ignore the short and long sounds.

The long vowel sounds in English, like in the word meet, are often shorter than the ones in Finnish, so you won’t be exaggerating much if you just think of the word tuuli as tuuuli, and pronounce it that way. That way you’ll at least avoid the chance of making wind become fire and that’s the most important thing, right?

Note: Triple vowels of the same vowel (such as the sample above, uuu) or triple consonants of the same consonant (such as kkk) are not possible in the Finnish language so no, I'm not telling you to write it this way but just to imagine it that way so that it would be easier to tell the difference between words like tuuli and tuli.

For the long consonant sounds, there usually is a syllable break in the middle of the consonants so it’s easier to notice them, especially if the double letters are between the first and second syllable of the word like in the word tulli, in which the first syllable is tul and the second li, because the first syllable is always stressed in the Finnish language. So to pronounce tulli, you’ll need to put more stress on tul than li.
PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 4:34 pm


GRAMMAR – Vowel Harmony


I’m starting with some fun grammar, oh yes. There are three different types of vowels in the Finnish language – front, back and neutral vowels. The front and back vowels always go in pairs, for example the front vowel Ä is paired with the back vowel A because they are pronounced similarly, but the pronunciation of the letter Ä happens at the front of your mouth whereas the pronunciation of the letter A happens at the back of your mouth. The neutral vowels again are pronounced in the middle.

The front vowels
Y Ö Ä

The back vowels
U O A

The vowel pairs
Y – U
Ö – O
Ä – A

The neutral vowels
I E

The front and back vowels NEVER appear together in the same word. That’s what the whole vowel harmony is all about. You can however combine front vowels and neutral vowels in a word, as well as back vowels and neutral vowels, but never front vowels and back vowels. So if you’ve got for example the word kala (= fish), it has only back vowels in it (A), the word koira (= dog) however has back vowels (O, A) and a neutral vowel (I) in it. The word (= night) again has only front vowels in it (Y, Ö) whereas the word päivä (= day) has both front vowels (Ä) and neutral vowels in it (I).

There are really no exceptions in this rule except for foreign words that have been adapted to the Finnish language, such as amatööri (= amateur), but there are very few of them. Also, compound words that actually consist of multiple words, such as työpaikka (työ = work, paikka = place) may have both front and back vowels in them but as they are in separate words (even if it’s within a compound word), they don’t really break the rule of vowel harmony. The word tällainen (= like this) is a bit questionable though. It doesn’t really consist of two separate words but it is a shorten that was was originally made out of the word tämänlainen (tämän lainen, = like this) and therefore the word has both front and back vowels. This is probably the only word in the Finnish language though that in a way breaks the rule of vowel harmony but if you do look at the history of the word, it doesn’t kill the rule all that bad. But as said, it’s probably the only word like this in Finnish so you don’t need to bother yourselves too much with it.

If you ignore the exceptions, the whole vowel harmony is a fairly simple thing, no? It might sound a bit of a useless information for now but once you get further in your Finnish studies, the rules of vowel harmony will become something you should remember well.

-palasokeri-


Caffeinated Tea

PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:42 pm


:D
Please, continue.
PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:41 pm


So, I totally disappeared and I'm very sorry for that. The reason for this is that I moved to the US at the end of the summer. I was supposed to leave a note for you guys before I actually left but everything was just too hectic for me at the time.
Now I've pretty much finally settled in here though so hopefully, if my time allows, I'll be able to get some actual lessons out in case people are still interested. c:
The lessons I had planned are saved on my old laptop though.. Which I left in Finland. So I have a bit of a problem. We'll see if I manage to get the files from there or if I'll have to start all over.
First of all though, I'd like to know if anyone even is still interested in learning Finnish at the moment. Please send me a PM if you are. c: Thank you.

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-palasokeri-

PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:07 am


VOCABULARY – Basic Phrases


Since people were still interested in learning Finnish, I'm continuing my lessons. c; For starters, here are some simple but important phrases you should know.

Hello / Hi – Hei / Moi / Terve
Good morning | Hyvää huomenta
Good day | Hyvää päivää
Good evening | Hyvää iltaa
Good night | Hyvää yötä
Bye bye | Hei hei / Moi moi / Heippa / Moikka
See you | Nähdään

Yes | Kyllä / Joo (informal but more commonly used in speech)
No | Ei
Thank you | Kiitos
Sorry / Excuse me | Anteeksi

How are you? | Mitä kuuluu?
I’m fine, thanks | Hyvää, kiitos
Nice to meet you | Hauska tavata / Hauska tutustua

And since it’s soon Christmas and the end of the year is coming closer… c;
Merry Christmas! | Hyvää joulua!
Happy New Year! | Hyvää uutta vuotta! / Onnellista uutta vuotta!
PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:57 am


PERSONAL PRONOUNS


Before getting to much anything, teaching the basic personal pronouns of Finnish is a must. The Finnish language is a gender-neutral language, which means that the nouns, including the personal pronouns, are not associated with any gender. Whereas English has the words he and she, which let you know the gender of the person in question, Finnish merely has one word to describe both of them, the neutral hän. Therefore, you can not tell whether it is a woman or a man in question when this word is used.

As already mentioned, I’m mostly going to teach the standard language instead of the spoken one, but as for the personal pronouns, the spoken versions of them are extremely common so I am also going to list those too after the actual personal pronouns, just so you won't get confused when someone uses such instead of the standard ones. The spoken versions I'm listing are the ones used around the capital area and some other parts of the country. In certain other regions different ones are used but they are usually quite similar either to the standard ones or the spoken ones on the list.

I | Minä (Spoken: Mä)
You | Sinä (Spoken: Sä)
He / She | Hän (Spoken: Se, literally means “it”)

We | Me
You (all) | Te
They | He (Spoken: Ne)

Note: Te usually refers to many people but in formal speech, it is used instead of sinä.

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